[Noah Sole]

Re: A clean slate.

It's the same when I find out that someone I had hitherto found to be a pleasant and likeable chap is really a hideous homosexual. I find strength in our Lord's words when it comes to shunning him. Who knows what peril my soul and those of my children would be in without our Lord to guide us!

Brother you are so benevolent by just shunning a homer - personally I would prefer to follow the Bible and stone them to death. Unfortunately our wishy washy liberal fluffy bunny politicians won't allow this, it's such a shame. I wish I had your inner strength.

Leviticus 20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

YIC

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: A clean slate.

hmmm...Indeed my friend, indeed ^^

See! The more you stop trying to figure out what God is actually up to and if His intentions are benign or just random and whimsical you start to find proper peace with the Lord and just do His bidding regardless of if it makes sense or makes you sometimes feel a little ill inside.

When I'm beating my children I often see their little crying faces and hear their whimpers and feel like sparing the rod. But then I remember what God said on the matter and I have new resolve.

It's the same when I find out that someone I had hitherto found to be a pleasant and likeable chap is really a hideous homosexual. I find strength in our Lord's words when it comes to shunning him. Who knows what peril my soul and those of my children would be in without our Lord to guide us!

[youngWonderer]

Re: A clean slate.

Were you not able to read? We're not meant to know why God does stuff.

Psalm 145:3 Great is the LORD, and greatly to be praised; and his greatness is unsearchable.

His reasons are beyond us. Do you honestly think you are the first person to be outraged on this issue over the last 2000 years? God still keeps on doing it, though, so it must be right.

GLORY!

hmmm...Indeed my friend, indeed ^^

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: A clean slate.

Yeah - and that's perfectly fine.
But killing the vast majority of people in the world just because the word of God hasn't reached them yet is where I draw the line.
Why would God create and allow all these beings to live, just to send most of them to hell?

Were you not able to read? We're not meant to know why God does stuff.

Psalm 145:3 Great is the LORD, and greatly to be praised; and his greatness is unsearchable.

His reasons are beyond us. Do you honestly think you are the first person to be outraged on this issue over the last 2000 years? God still keeps on doing it, though, so it must be right.

GLORY!

[youngWonderer]

Re: A clean slate.

Why?

What's wrong? Being Christian is all about being righteous while others are not righteous.

1 John 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.

I do my best to warn them but they do not listen. Also there has to be a reason why God has chosen to have people be informed of His will and Jesus' deeds and temporary death for our sins by getting people to write it down and pass it on by word of mouth and transcribing what was written down. Given that restriction getting the word out over the last 2000 years to about 25% of the world's population so they take it remotely seriously is pretty good going. I just don't know what that reason is, but that's OK because I don't need to!

Romans 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

Yeah - and that's perfectly fine.
But killing the vast majority of people in the world just because the word of God hasn't reached them yet is where I draw the line.
Why would God create and allow all these beings to live, just to send most of them to hell?

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: A clean slate.

Im saying nothing.
Im saying absolutely nothing.

Why?

What's wrong? Being Christian is all about being righteous while others are not righteous.

1 John 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.

I do my best to warn them but they do not listen. Also there has to be a reason why God has chosen to have people be informed of His will and Jesus' deeds and temporary death for our sins by getting people to write it down and pass it on by word of mouth and transcribing what was written down. Given that restriction getting the word out over the last 2000 years to about 25% of the world's population so they take it remotely seriously is pretty good going. I just don't know what that reason is, but that's OK because I don't need to!

Romans 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

[youngWonderer]

Re: A clean slate.

Who said it was cruel? Burning the vast majority of people on Earth purely because they have never even heard of Jesus or if they have they've never had access to a Bible about it or been told lies is perfectly right and proper.

Im saying nothing.
Im saying absolutely nothing.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: A clean slate.

Well yeah I understood that one but that one doesn't mean "be cruel"
That's simply telling the eleven to preach to the world that they're screwed if they dont believe

Who said it was cruel? Burning the vast majority of people on Earth purely because they have never even heard of Jesus or if they have they've never had access to a Bible about it or been told lies is perfectly right and proper.

[youngWonderer]

Re: A clean slate.

The Bible teaches us how to treat travellers:

2 Samuel 12:4
And there came a traveller unto the rich man, and he spared to take of his own flock and of his own herd, to dress for the wayfaring man that was come unto him; but took the poor man's lamb, and dressed it for the man that was come to him.

Job 31:32
The stranger did not lodge in the street: but I opened my doors to the traveller.

I notice there is no reference to bloody violence and murder?

YIC

You asked how I help to rid of Gypsies - not the Bible.
And points 1 and 2 pretty much mean that.
Gypsies are different to travellers - they take away children, damn reputations and bring curses etc.
Travellers travel to see the Lord's kingdom

[Noah Sole]

Re: A clean slate.

Because I prefer some element of restraint before bloody violence and murder.

The Bible teaches us how to treat travellers:

2 Samuel 12:4
And there came a traveller unto the rich man, and he spared to take of his own flock and of his own herd, to dress for the wayfaring man that was come unto him; but took the poor man's lamb, and dressed it for the man that was come to him.

Job 31:32
The stranger did not lodge in the street: but I opened my doors to the traveller.

I notice there is no reference to bloody violence and murder?

YIC

[youngWonderer]

Re: A clean slate.

Fair enough, but why bother with steps 1 and 2 - just go to step 3?

YIC

Because I prefer some element of restraint before bloody violence and murder.

[youngWonderer]

Re: A clean slate.

And yet as soon as I showed you some of Jesus' plain speaking you immediately looked for alternative explanations as to why Jesus looked to be saying something that offends you.

Mark 16:14-16
14Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen. 15And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

So what did Jesus mean when He said all this, then? Did He mean that people who don't believe are damned or did He not?

Well yeah I understood that one but that one doesn't mean "be cruel"
That's simply telling the eleven to preach to the world that they're screwed if they dont believe

[Noah Sole]

Re: A clean slate.

Thank you for actually listening to my words - unlike some ignorant people here... And I am happy living where I am, although I have been looking to sell that other house it's too expensive to keep

I think the best way to deal with Gypsies is a three way blow

1) Tempt them with money - Gypsies with a stable home technically are not gypsies and can't curse anyone with their filthy magic. At least with a stable home they can learn the word of God instead of their silly Gypsy witches.

2) Exile them from towns. Get the community to show that they hate the Gypsies - therefore driving them away

3) If all else fails, carry the sword of God and eliminate them

Fair enough, but why bother with steps 1 and 2 - just go to step 3?


YIC

[youngWonderer]

Re: A clean slate.

Hello YoungWonderer

I'm glad to see you're not a gypsy even though you don't seem to be happy living in one place. How do you think the best way to abolish gypsies would be, I'm sure it would be very difficult - several people have already tried with varying degrees of success.

YIC

Thank you for actually listening to my words - unlike some ignorant people here... And I am happy living where I am, although I have been looking to sell that other house it's too expensive to keep

I think the best way to deal with Gypsies is a three way blow

1) Tempt them with money - Gypsies with a stable home technically are not gypsies and can't curse anyone with their filthy magic. At least with a stable home they can learn the word of God instead of their silly Gypsy witches.

2) Exile them from towns. Get the community to show that they hate the Gypsies - therefore driving them away

3) If all else fails, carry the sword of God and eliminate them

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: A clean slate.

I never said i wanted to "twist" words, nor am i looking for people to do that for me.
And I never said that nor do I believe it. If it is written in a commandment there is no metaphor to follow - that's why they're commandments.

And yet as soon as I showed you some of Jesus' plain speaking you immediately looked for alternative explanations as to why Jesus looked to be saying something that offends you.

Mark 16:14-16
14Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen. 15And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

So what did Jesus mean when He said all this, then? Did He mean that people who don't believe are damned or did He not?