[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Nerd for the win

His word can have been preserved just not with us. Say a whole book is still with the ark of the covenant. It is preserved we just don't have it. Therefore it is impossible to figure out unless located.

So just on the off chance that something you have no evidence of whatsoever might possibly exist inside an object you have no evidence at all still exists you want us to base decisions on that likelihood? Can you hear how crazy that sounds?

Meanwhile we have an an internally verified and sole piece of direct evidence for God and Jesus that's perfect and beyond any doubt right at our fingertips. But let's put all that on hold just in case Raiders of the Lost Ark was a documentary.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Nerd for the win

While true the forum isn’t a vast belief forum, what I said doesn't go against nor for your religion. Nowhere in the bible does it say or not say what I did say so how is it false witness then if there is nothing said to go against it

Throughout history the vile and debauched nature of all humanity is stated most clearly, by men and by God.

Genesis 8:21 And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.
KJV

I Kings 8:46 If they sin against thee, (for there is no man that sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them to the enemy, so that they carry them away captives unto the land of the enemy, far or near;
KJV

Job 15:14-16 What is man, that he should be clean? and he which is born of a woman, that he should be righteous? Behold, he putteth no trust in his saints; yea, the heavens are not clean in his sight. How much more abominable and filthy is man, which drinketh iniquity like water?
KJV

Check it out: Genesis 6:1-5 evil continually .Psalm 51:5 shapen in iniquity .Jeremiah 17:9 deceitful above all things/desperately wicked

That is "square one" - total depravity and HELL FOREVER until one day:

JOHN 6
43 Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves.
44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.
47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
KJV

You reject Him. Sure, as a result you rationalise your super-ego compliant "decision" as based on logic and the "commonality of goodness in all cultures" or whatever words suit you today. God teaches us:

JOHN 12
28 Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.
29 The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him.
30 Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes.
31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
33 This he said, signifying what death he should die.
KJV

The atheist says there is no God. So where did that voice come from? The atheist says there is no Heaven. So where did Jesus go, that involved moving UP (in the direction of the clouds)?

ACTS 1
9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken UP; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went UP, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing UP into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
KJV

Where did Jesus go, if not to Heaven? And since He returned to Heaven it must follow that He came from Heaven in the first place. Why would He need to do that, to be murdered, to shed His blood onto the dirt if it was not to transform us from unspeakable filth into His Glorious Light?

What you say simply does not make sense.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Nerd for the win

Actually they are neutral. I ask about them and get answered. Some hate, others don't. Seems though here everyone hates, aww well been in worse forums before
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So warning you truthfully that you are in flagrant disregard of what you need to do to be saved from fear of Hell is hateful? Man you unbelievers are twisted up!

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Nerd for the win

So because I am knowledgeable on computers I am gay? Or is that just because you don't like that I won’t give into your so called 'reason'? That sounds like what I heard in High School from every immature retard there. I am heterosexual having no thoughts of men in that way. I have a girlfriend and we don't even have sex due to moral reasons. How then am I gay?
Also, a side note you use computers to post things on sights. You do not however use them to actually make the programs that allow you to do such a thing. Therefore, how you use computers is irrelevant

How can you have morals if you are an atheist? Or is there some book of absolute morality that you can point to that has nothing to do with the Bible?

Face it: deep down you know God exists and you don't have sex because in your heart you know it is unChristian to do so.

Jesus bought you here for a reason, sonny boy.

YIC

[Bitty Boy]

Re: Nerd for the win

II Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Isaiah 40:8
The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Further, there are clear instructions not to add to God's Word. This is because God's Word is complete.

Revelation 22:19
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

God promised to preserve His Word.

Psalm 12:6-7
The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

And we know that He delivers the goods.

Romans 4:21
And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.

His word can have been preserved just not with us. Say a whole book is still with the ark of the covenant. It is preserved we just don't have it. Therefore it is impossible to figure out unless located.

[Jedediah]

Re: Nerd for the win

What makes you think everything meant was put into it?

II Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Isaiah 40:8
The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Further, there are clear instructions not to add to God's Word. This is because God's Word is complete.

Revelation 22:19
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

pages could have been lost so to could thing not added in due to any need. Just because there isn't a scripture about it doesn't make it false

God promised to preserve His Word.

Psalm 12:6-7
The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

And we know that He delivers the goods.

Romans 4:21
And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.

[Bitty Boy]

Re: Nerd for the win

Wrong again. When you make a claim, such as "The basic human makeup is...", you are claiming to speak truth. The LORD is the author of truth (Psalm 119:160) so kindly find a scripture to support your fantastic claims, or take the time to keep quiet and learn something.

He may be the basic author of your so called 'truth'. But, the bible was written several thousand years ago. What makes you think everything meant was put into it? pages could have been lost so to could thing not added in due to any need. Just because there isn't a scripture about it doesn't make it false

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Nerd for the win

While true the forum isn’t a vast belief forum, what I said doesn't go against nor for your religion. Nowhere in the bible does it say or not say what I did say so how is it false witness then if there is nothing said to go against it

Wrong again. When you make a claim, such as "The basic human makeup is...", you are claiming to speak truth. The LORD is the author of truth (Psalm 119:160) so kindly find a scripture to support your fantastic claims, or take the time to keep quiet and learn something.

[Bitty Boy]

Re: Nerd for the win

This forum is not to celebrate what you believe. We celebrate God, including Jesus. And The Holy Ghost.

There is only one God (and BittysBoy is not on the list), and what He teaches us is not the same as what you say. Mrs Etheldreda has outlined the contamination we all share
Job 25:4-6

While true the forum isn’t a vast belief forum, what I said doesn't go against nor for your religion. Nowhere in the bible does it say or not say what I did say so how is it false witness then if there is nothing said to go against it

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Nerd for the win

Really I get an infraction for 'bearing false witness'? What did i do that was seemingly false preaching? I believe the basic makeup of the humanmind is simple but that is worth a 100point inmfraction what is so wrong with saying a minor sub-belief?

This forum is not to celebrate what you believe. We celebrate God, including Jesus. And The Holy Ghost.

There is only one God (and BittysBoy is not on the list), and what He teaches us is not the same as what you say. Mrs Etheldreda has outlined the contamination we all share
Job 25:4-6

[Bitty Boy]

Re: Nerd for the win

Wrong. The basic human make up is that of a creature made in the likeness and image of God, tainted by sin, in need of redemption in order to avoid an eternity of punishment for a guilt we were by nature destined to adopt.

You have a choice before you. Confess your many despicable sins and be freed from the wages you owe a loving yet jealous God, or spend eternity in constant pain and torment as is just and fitting.

Ok with that it is an entirely different thing. What you describe is physical and spiritual not mental. That has nothing to do with anything said by me what so ever and thus is lacking in any informative sense. So what are you getting at here or are you just spouting random things to suit your desires?

[Bitty Boy]

Re: Nerd for the win

Really I get an infraction for 'bearing false witness'? What did i do that was seemingly false preaching? I believe the basic makeup of the humanmind is simple but that is worth a 100point inmfraction what is so wrong with saying a minor sub-belief?

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Nerd for the win

Yes they do. The basic human makeup is that of what isneeded for survivale such as eat drink sleep and getting along with fellow humns. While this is just basic and can be overwriten if it is not and supported it stays there as it should. But it is slowly be pushed out of people with societies growing hatered/distrust fo fellow man but that is not the fault of any one group or person

Wrong. The basic human make up is that of a creature made in the likeness and image of God, tainted by sin, in need of redemption in order to avoid an eternity of punishment for a guilt we were by nature destined to adopt.

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Romans 6:23

You have a choice before you. Confess your many despicable sins and be freed from the wages you owe a loving yet jealous God, or spend eternity in constant pain and torment as is just and fitting.

[Bitty Boy]

Re: Nerd for the win

But if she is without God what is stopping her from performing acts on another's when you are no longer there?

Proverbs 30:20 Such is the way of an adulterous woman; she eateth, and wipeth hermouth, and saith, I have done no wickedness.

YIC

Jack

Because I love her, and she loves me. I trust her with all my heart. She has never thought of another man the way she does me. I have never thought of another woman as I do her. It is all based on trust and I trust she will not cheat, for while you say all women do not all do. I know in my heart that she will not cheat on me, ever, and that is enough for me

[Bitty Boy]

Re: Nerd for the win

No they don't.

Yes they do. The basic human makeup is that of what isneeded for survivale such as eat drink sleep and getting along with fellow humns. While this is just basic and can be overwriten if it is not and supported it stays there as it should. But it is slowly be pushed out of people with societies growing hatered/distrust fo fellow man but that is not the fault of any one group or person
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No they don't.

See above it can and at times is overwritten

I wasn't.

That is on parents not you if parents are good and follow the basic needs of a person they do

No it isn't.

It is/was anyway. It is now slowly leaving society though

Not an environment usually associated with celibacy. OK, OK, it's not as bad as the vatican.. but even so...

That is all personal preferance in the person. While not nrmally associated wih it I choose to for the reason of if i get her pregnant an i am deployed i don't want to have her raising a child alone and then if I am killed I don't want hertoraise a child who will never even know its father