[Deaner]

Re: Hello

I am an atheist. I don't believe in God.

Why are there twenty responses to this thread? Should one that said "get lost jerk-off" been sufficient? What are we paying for bandwidth?

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

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I didn't go looking for a reason not to believe in God. My study was to specifically fulfill my obligation (I Peter 3:15) where I am expected to provide an answer and reason for the hope that I had. It was a way of finding out if my beliefs were actually justifiable, and whether I was able to give good reason for other people to believe things I believe when was a Christian. Science is based upon proof, evidence, testable and useful, while religion is based upon faith. There is no sufficient reason(s) for you to believe the Bible is true, unless if you can provide otherwise?

And this misunderstanding was your problem all along; you never knew I Tim 6:20-21...

20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: 21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.

You had no idea that by investigating and opening your mind to possibilities outside of the Bible that the Devil would slip right in and set up shop in your heart. And now here you are.

Furthermore, I ask you why are there so many gays, liars, drunks, dopers, rapist, idolater?

Because unlike you, we were broken people who just didn't have it together. Our lives were in shambles without a higher power directing us. We needed God to make us complete. But unlike you, we came to acknowledge that we were sick and needed our Spiritual Physician, the Savior (see Matt 9:11-13). You remain stedfast in your defiance of God and Godly standards, which makes you much worse off than we ever were (see John 9:40-41).

Regards,

Pastor Ed

[Infinity]

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I see. Incapable of answering a question. Typical.

I can't answer that question because I don't believe in Heaven and Hell. But, if you want me to answer the question from a atheist perspective, a person who doesn't believe in Hell, then all of the people are missed.

Again, unable to respond to a comment, you just keep trying to change the subject.

I did respond to a comment. I'm haven't changed the subject. You questioned why I used the Star Trek quotation, and I've supported that reason throughout two posts on this thread.

[James Hutchins]

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How do you know Heaven and Hell exist? How do you know God is the one that sends people to these places?

I see. Incapable of answering a question. Typical.

Clearly you didn't understand the point to why I typed that in my post. As I said, quoting the Bible isn't going to get you anywhere because you haven't demonstrated why anyone should consider the Bible to be true or authoritative.

Again, unable to respond to a comment, you just keep trying to change the subject.


Friend, your pack of lies is getting tiresome.

[Infinity]

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If there is any one who should have shame here it is you. You could spend the whole weekend reading this forum and not bother anyone and get the 'knowledge' that you seek.

However, you are not a learner you are a troublemaker. Why should I not be on guard?

You can be on 'guard' all you want. I want to learn why you believe what you do, like I did when I was a Christian, however, all you're doing is giving reasons without sufficient evidence to support your claims. One of the many reasons why I became an atheist.

Tell me, of all the people that God has killed and sent to Hell,

How do you know Heaven and Hell exist? How do you know God is the one that sends people to these places?

StarTrek? Seriously? Friend you are severely disturbed if you think a TV comedy show is 'Biblical'.

Clearly you didn't understand the point to why I typed that in my post. As I said, quoting the Bible isn't going to get you anywhere because you haven't demonstrated why anyone should consider the Bible to be true or authoritative.

[James Hutchins]

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Wow!

Tell me, of all the people that God has killed and sent to Hell, which one is missed? What contribution to society did we miss out on?

StarTrek? Seriously? Friend you are severely disturbed if you think a TV comedy show is 'Biblical'.

[Nobar King]

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Hello friend,

Did you read my first post or are you too ashamed to read what I type on this forum?

I want to learn from other 'True' Christians and understand your own views of The Bible and God, together with why you believe in what you do.

If there is any one who should have shame here it is you. You could spend the whole weekend reading this forum and not bother anyone and get the 'knowledge' that you seek.

However, you are not a learner you are a troublemaker. Why should I not be on guard?

[Infinity]

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This is a Baptist Christian Web Forum. I'm not sure why you're here. Don't bother to send me a friend request, I won't accept it.

Hello friend,

Did you read my first post or are you too ashamed to read what I type on this forum?

I am an atheist. I don't believe in God.

I was a fundamentalist Christians attending seminaries and I was going to be a minister, however, I began to investigation into the topic of Christianity and religion as a whole for enjoyment. Years later, rationality made my faith in any God and the Bible to fly out of the window. This was because I was studying religion, philosophy, history and science that made me change the way I understood the universe and the world around, making me a better man. This helped me go into the industry of science, ending up in University and achieving my Master's degree. I no longer defend atheism; I actively promote it. Nevertheless, I understand this is a Christian forum to praise Jesus, and that is why I came. Of course, I don't want to make people into atheists, even though I do believe atheism and secular humanism are vastly better than religions in ensuring our survival and achieving our potentials as humans. But I want to learn from other 'True' Christians and understand your own views of The Bible and God, together with why you believe in what you do.

[Nobar King]

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This is a Baptist Christian Web Forum. I'm not sure why you're here. Don't bother to send me a friend request, I won't accept it.

[Infinity]

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Would you mind if we added you to our Adopt an Atheist ministry?

Be my guest.

'Odin'??? No friend (and no wonder you are messed up) That is a false God invented to placate retarded eskimoes and entertain the feeble minded. God lets people die all the time, for good reason too. He expressly tells us we do not have to know what, just that He does it for His own good. Nearly all the people He kills off are worthless people, and none are faithful, so there is little reason for them to live.

You have obviously never been to Walmart.

Where did you get that statistic from? If you get in a car accident tomorrow it was God? Furthermore, I ask you why are there so many gays, liars, drunks, dopers, rapist, idolater?

I'll let the Bible speak here
Leviticus 19:15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

Psalm 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

Proverbs 31:9 Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.

John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

John 12:39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
John 12:40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

1st Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
1st Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1st Corinthians 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
1st Corinthians 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

1st Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1st Corinthians 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
1st Corinthians 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
1st Corinthians 1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
1st Corinthians 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

1st Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1st Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

1st Corinthians 3:18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
1st Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
1st Corinthians 3:20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.

Jude 1:16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
Jude 1:17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
Jude 1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
Jude 1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

When we go to investigate the Bible, not only do we have this problem about not knowing who the authors are, and not having any original copies, we find that the Bible is contradictory to itself in places, contradictory to science and other places, and incorrect to some of historical findings. There is no reason for you to believe the Bible is true.

Captain Kirk said "What does God need with a starship." Quoting the Bible isn't going to get you anywhere because you haven't demonstrated why anyone should consider the Bible to be true or authoritative.

A person does not think they are a sinner unless they also beleive in God. Here is a fun fact for you. All True Christians™ have been washed in the blood of the lamb. It is a refreshing and beautiful event. Perhaps you are interested? To feel the thick, warm blood of the animal flowing over you is really quite exquisite.

Nope, no sinners here. There is no god, there is no sin, and the folks who believe in a judgmental, frowning sky daddy and take comfort in the idea of being "washed in blood" are the ones who need help.

You know, He died for your sins...

There is no sufficient and large enough evidence to back up the claims to believe it. That is why it's based on faith. You've only got the Bible. Other than that, no record whatsoever that he ever even existed.

[James Hutchins]

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Which God are you talking about?

Your existence is proof that you exist. Otherwise, why couldn't you claim "My existence and desire to Save my fellow man is proof Odin exists?" Don't waste your prayers on me, pray for the people you God obviously still lets starve to death across the globe.

'Odin'??? No friend (and no wonder you are messed up) That is a false God invented to placate retarded eskimoes and entertain the feeble minded.
God lets people die all the time, for good reason too. He expressly tells us we do not have to know what, just that He does it for His own good. Nearly all the people He kills off are worthless people, and none are faithful, so there is little reason for them to live.

Gotta love that non judgmental christian love! Anyone claiming to know is a liar. That includes you.

I'll let the Bible speak here
Leviticus 19:15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

Psalm 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

Proverbs 31:9 Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.

John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

John 12:39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
John 12:40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

1st Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
1st Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1st Corinthians 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
1st Corinthians 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

1st Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1st Corinthians 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
1st Corinthians 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
1st Corinthians 1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
1st Corinthians 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

1st Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1st Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

1st Corinthians 3:18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
1st Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
1st Corinthians 3:20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.

Jude 1:16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
Jude 1:17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
Jude 1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
Jude 1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

We are all sinners, with out the blood of Jesus you are condemned.

Ah, a little honesty comes out. You know you are a sinner. A person does not think they are a sinner unless they also beleive in God. Here is a fun fact for you. All True Christians(tm) have been washed in the blood of the lamb. It is a refreshing and beautiful event. Perhaps you are interested? To feel the thick, warm blood of the animal flowing over you is really quite exquisite.

Time for a little honesty friend, what terrible deeds have you done that made Jesus shun you? You know, He died for your sins yet you thank Him by spitting on His sandals?

[Mary Etheldreda]

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Hello, and welcome to our friendly forum! Would you mind if we added you to our Adopt an Atheist ministry?

I'll personally pray for you to let go of the pride of independent thought myself.

[Infinity]

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My existence and desire to Save my fellow man is proof God exists. If I were hateful, I would not pray for you.

Which God are you talking about?

Your existence is proof that you exist. Otherwise, why couldn't you claim "My existence and desire to Save my fellow man is proof Odin exists?" Don't waste your prayers on me, pray for the people you God obviously still lets starve to death across the globe.

You still may have time to repent and to have God forgive you. Imagine the following. Think about how much I care.
You're dead
Whether due to your own disgusting sinning or the Lords divine will, you are dead. Instantly your soul begin falling towards the black abyss above Hell. The falling seems eternal as you gather speed and the heat begins to grow. Then you notice a red dot below you growing larger by the second, this is the Lake in the center of Hell. It is the brightest point in Hell therefore it is visible for a great distance. Keep in mind that the farther you fall, the further from Christ you are.
As you gain speed and the flames become apparent you may wonder how you can stop this from happening. The answer is simple. It's too late and you can't, you're doomed. Your soul is damned and it WILL happen. The temperature is now approaching the unbearable limit as your flesh begins to smoulder and ignite and you continue to build speed as you plummet toward the now visible boiling Lake of Fire. You can almost make out individual souls thrashing in the magma with your flaming eyesockets. Soon you will join them, your terror mounts as your screams become gargled with the stench of Hells evil smell. The heat becomes excruciating as you notice your skin peeling away and your bones becoming visible and black. Flaming and screaming in anguish, you splashdown into the acidic brimstone of Satans Lake at around 250 MPH. You are instantly vaporized and reformed as a tormented soul writhing in absolute terror in the deafening depths of the Lake that Burns Eternal. The pain is beyond comprehension as you gnash your teeth so hard they shatter in your mouth. Satan periodically plucks you from the flames to savagely rape repeatedly and casually tosses you to his infernal minions to rip apart and rape at will, only to be reformed and have this scenario repeated...over and over and over, forever.
Is it still funny mocking our mission to Save your soul? We want you to enjoy Heaven and eternal praise and worship at the feet of our Saviour the Lord Jesus Christ.

Unless you are Saved™ by Jesus Christ and His Holy website and favorite church, Landover Baptist, there is no other way to avoid this.

Gotta love that non judgmental christian love! Anyone claiming to know is a liar. That includes you. We are all sinners, with out the blood of Jesus you are condemned.

[Didymus Much]

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...Finally, I can look at people like you and say "I used to be a disgusting, and hateful .... just like you are"

That's funny, because they say the same thing.

[James Hutchins]

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Thank you for proving that there is no real god changing the lives of Christians and making them compassionate. I am a much better, and more sane person now than when I was a Christian. I have learned I am NOT an evil, vile, disgusting person, as all the Christians told me I was. I have learned to be self sufficient and count on myself instead of a magical fairy-tale. Finally, I can look at people like you and say "I used to be a disgusting, and hateful .... just like you are"

On the contrary. My existence and desire to Save my fellow man is proof God exists. If I were hateful, I would not pray for you.

Friend, I do not know your story of depravity. The shame you must be shouldering has to be weighing heavily on your pitiful soul.

You still may have time to repent and to have God forgive you. Imagine the following. Think about how much I care.
You're dead
Whether due to your own disgusting sinning or the Lords divine will, you are dead. Instantly your soul begin falling towards the black abyss above Hell. The falling seems eternal as you gather speed and the heat begins to grow. Then you notice a red dot below you growing larger by the second, this is the Lake in the center of Hell. It is the brightest point in Hell therefore it is visible for a great distance. Keep in mind that the farther you fall, the further from Christ you are.
As you gain speed and the flames become apparent you may wonder how you can stop this from happening. The answer is simple. It's too late and you can't, you're doomed. Your soul is damned and it WILL happen. The temperature is now approaching the unbearable limit as your flesh begins to smoulder and ignite and you continue to build speed as you plummet toward the now visible boiling Lake of Fire. You can almost make out individual souls thrashing in the magma with your flaming eyesockets. Soon you will join them, your terror mounts as your screams become gargled with the stench of Hells evil smell. The heat becomes excruciating as you notice your skin peeling away and your bones becoming visible and black. Flaming and screaming in anguish, you splashdown into the acidic brimstone of Satans Lake at around 250 MPH. You are instantly vaporized and reformed as a tormented soul writhing in absolute terror in the deafening depths of the Lake that Burns Eternal. The pain is beyond comprehension as you gnash your teeth so hard they shatter in your mouth. Satan periodically plucks you from the flames to savagely rape repeatedly and casually tosses you to his infernal minions to rip apart and rape at will, only to be reformed and have this scenario repeated...over and over and over, forever.
Is it still funny mocking our mission to Save your soul? We want you to enjoy Heaven and eternal praise and worship at the feet of our Saviour the Lord Jesus Christ.

Unless you are Saved™ by Jesus Christ and His Holy website and favorite church, Landover Baptist, there is no other way to avoid this.