[Didymus Much]

Re: You don't HAVE to do 'it' on the honeymoon

...I also know from my study of animals that they do not do it for pleasure. Animals solely reproduce for the continuation of their lineage...

Then why are there documented cases of homosexual behaviour (short- and long-term) throughout the animal kingdom?

[Lannah Aikens]

Re: You don't HAVE to do 'it' on the honeymoon

What does the Bible say about sex and marriage? It says that if you are going to do it, it is better to be married than burn in Hell for sex outside of wedlock. It doesn't say, don't marry if you only plan on having sex. It says that if this is what you plan on, don't let it be a sin. That being the case, it is condoned to marry for lustful or sexual reasons because it is allowed within the constrains of marriage but it would be sinful if you weren't married.
Of course, before I am bashed for saying that sex is only for pleasure, I will clarify. Sex is for procreation, but God has indeed blessed us with our bodies to rejoices in each other. To intimately rejoice in this manner during a monogomous relationship which God has brought together is to praise God's power and blessings. A couple are bound to one another in that they can love each other intellectually, spiritually, and now physically.

I also know from my study of animals that they do not do it for pleasure. Animals solely reproduce for the continuation of their lineage.

As far as your friend, I was only speaking the truth as God would have me do. She denounced pleasure during sex as leading a man astray and therefore of Satan. Was Solomon a servant of Satan or of God? God blessed Solomon with wisdom- he was the wisest of the wise, yet you overlook how he expresses the blessings that God puts on this intimacy between two lovers.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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Are you denying an entire book of the Bible which rejoices in making love to one another?

Miss Lizalor denies nothing that comes from the LORD. She is a True Christian™ lady, one who has been Saved from an eternity of Damnation, bought for a most treasured price (1st Corinthians 7:23). To insinuate she could deny that which makes her Whole and Complete and Perfect is to insinuate she doesn't really love Jesus after all. I know how deeply her feelings for Christ runs. Kindly don't make such accusations again. It's rude and offensive.

During procreation, God gives us the blessing of being allowed to enjoy each others bodies, not worship them.

You advocate enjoying each other's bodies for the sake of pleasure of the flesh. This directly goes against Scripture (Galatians 5:17). Are you suggesting your interpretation of Song of Solomon is more Righteous than Paul's?

Think about the difference between humans and animals. An animal does things purely to produce but lacks the ability to take pleasure in these acts. If they did enjoy them, they would follow their animalistic instinct to continuously fulfill those sensations.

I'm going to take a stab at this, but, you're not terribly familiar with animal behavior, are you?

Anyway...

God, though has blessed us, the humans, with the ability to feel intimate pleasure.

Dear, if the bride can't go a little bit further to maintain her purity to please the LORD, if she must "get it on" on the honeymoon, the marriage is naught but an excuse to follow one's "animalistic instinct to continuously fulfill those sensations." You may think that by using the sanctity of marriage as an excuse you are still honoring Christ, but He knows you're honoring your G-spot over Him.

[Lannah Aikens]

Re: You don't HAVE to do 'it' on the honeymoon

Are you denying an entire book of the Bible which rejoices in making love to one another? During procreation, God gives us the blessing of being allowed to enjoy each others bodies, not worship them. Think about the difference between humans and animals. An animal does things purely to produce but lacks the ability to take pleasure in these acts. If they did enjoy them, they would follow their animalistic instinct to continuously fulfill those sensations. God, though has blessed us, the humans, with the ability to feel intimate pleasure. It is holy for a man and a woman to abstain from each other until they are brought together in a monogomous relationship. Then, they are allowed to share themselves with each other under God's blessing. If you deny that it is holy to enjoy your partner, then you deny the wisdom of King Solomon blessed by God and therefore deny the absolute truth of the Bible and if one word os false, then how can we prove the next is true?

[MitzaLizalor]

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The love of Christ for us, The Church, His Bride does not involve bordello themed soireés or disgusting obsessions (such as African fetish worship) and Jesus does not impregnate us. That is His Father's job and Jesus is the Answer. It was only necessary for one woman to be so blessed:

Luke 1:28-31 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women. And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be. And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. KJV

As the first step forward in the line from David to Jesus, Solomon was fully aware of these details and has anticipated our every longing for fulfillment in Him. Is it being suggested that God needs to impregnate more of us for His Glory to rise?

Isaiah 59:21–60:3 As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever. Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the LORD is risen upon thee. For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee. And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising. KJV
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[Mary Etheldreda]

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A God ordained marriage leads to this God ordained love which rejoices in individuals who love everything about their partner.

A God ordained marriage leads to a an organized union in which Christ is the head of the man, the man is the head of the woman (1 Corinthians 11:3), and the woman delivers a quiver full of boys (Psalms 127:3-5). If you think marriage is about your husband worshiping you, then you will have led him astray, and you both will be serving the devil.

[Lannah Aikens]

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No, they're not about me. They are about a couple who made beautiful love together and it was holy. Solomon wrote this piece as the song of all songs as it rejoices in the passion of two lovers. Who the people are is of no importance to the meaning as a whole. A God ordained marriage leads to this God ordained love which rejoices in individuals who love everything about their partner.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: You don't HAVE to do 'it' on the honeymoon

My confusion really comes from readings of Song of Songs (or Song of Solomon) which rejoices in a couple taking pleasure in each others body as they make love. If this sort of thing is describe as holy in the Bible, why is it wrong?

Do you and your husband have a flat chested little sister (Song of Solomon 8:8)? Do you have a belly like a heap of wheat (Song of Solomon 7:2)? I'm no theologian, dear, but perhaps those particular letters weren't written to, or about, you.

[Lannah Aikens]

Re: You don't HAVE to do 'it' on the honeymoon

My confusion really comes from readings of Song of Songs (or Song of Solomon) which rejoices in a couple taking pleasure in each others body as they make love. If this sort of thing is describe as holy in the Bible, why is it wrong?

[Mary Etheldreda]

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I'm new here to this forum and just recently married. I've read through the comments and would just like a biblical explanation as to why sex is not meant to be pleasurable. I'm not sure I quite understand.

Well, are we talking about the pleasure of the flesh, or the pleasure of the spirit? Unless you are under the mistaken impression that your spirit is housed within the confines of your, er, "Lady Jane," you should be looking for no source of pleasure there. Besides, we have it on the highest authority that only Satan gives women orgasms.

[Lannah Aikens]

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I'm new here to this forum and just recently married. I've read through the comments and would just like a biblical explanation as to why sex is not meant to be pleasurable. I'm not sure I quite understand.

[Donovan A. Mordecai]

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Wonderful! having a great time reading your blog post. you know what your readers want. Keep posting.

This is not a blog, it is a True Christian™discussion forum. So if you don't have anything to add, you can see yourself out, or one of our mods can do it for you if you step out of line.

Please post here The introduction forum so we can get to know you, don't forget to read the sticky posts at the beginning

[persun]

Re: You don't HAVE to do 'it' on the honeymoon

Wonderful! having a great time reading your blog post. you know what your readers want. Keep posting.

[Attila's Wife]

Re: You don't HAVE to do 'it' on the honeymoon

I am shocked at the very idea of a honeymoon. Such frivolity is not for the likes of us women. After our wedding in 1939, my dear but unSaved late husband (may he continue to burn in Hell for all eternity) spent 2 weeks playing golf with his friends before returning to his native land to join his Austro-Hungarian regiment.

A single episode of Marital Ghastliness sufficed to put me in the condition which Our Lord intended. We repeated this distasteful duty annually, on our wedding anniversary, until he was taken from me by the barren painted harpy with whom he ended his days.

[CallMeAWitchThen]

Re: You don't HAVE to do 'it' on the honeymoon

I would think that a man who has laid claim to a woman by marrying her would then have the rights to her, all right. After a man has acquired new property, should he not inspect it during the term of the warranty (in other words, time most pastors/judges would condone an annulment)? If only once, just to be certain of her value.

Do not be ashamed of daughters, however. They can serve as useful bargaining chips if you raise them right; to be given to a proper man or for use in chores...how else would you be able to keep up properly taking care of all these menfolk? Let her go, she'll come over and join the witch folk. Witches are loads of fun, all right, but is pleasure not the influence of Satan?