[Nobar King]

Re: Are there any black (African) Goths and what color do they we

Amen, Reverend.

[shadow's slut (Quarantined)]

Re: Are there any black (African) Goths and what color do they we

Ok, Manson is NOT Goth I can tell you this now. Those who are NOT posers can't stand Manson. I don't care who you think you are, but if you are not Goth you cannot categorize Goth.

Yes there are African American Goths! My boyfriend, Shadow, is one, and yes he wears black.

Before you ask, Shadow has never done a thing to me. He does not hurt me, or himself; he does not worship "satan", in fact he is Christian. We like hard rock and techno. Neither one of us particularly enjoy the effects of alcohol (or the taste), but walking around the city at night is great when it's not storming. I don't like lightning.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Are there any black (African) Goths and what color do they we

Ok, Manson is NOT Goth I can tell you this now. Those who are NOT posers can't stand Manson. I don't care who you think you are, but if you are not Goth you cannot categorize Goth.

Yes there are African American Goths! My boyfriend, Shadow, is one, and yes he wears black.

Before you ask, Shadow has never done a thing to me. He does not hurt me, or himself; he does not worship "satan", in fact he is Christian. We like hard rock and techno. Neither one of us particularly enjoy the effects of alcohol (or the taste), but walking around the city at night is great when it's not storming. I don't like lightning.

Are you a queer? And a race-traitor too? And now you want to claim that goth trash are capable of being Christian?

Do you know how idiotic you sound?

Try reading more of this forum, nancyboy. You might learn something. I'll be praying for you.

[Nobar King]

Re: Are there any black (African) Goths and what color do they we

Manson is NOT Goth I can tell you this now. Those who are NOT posers can't stand Manson.

Have you ever been to a MM show? Full of goths. What do goths wear? MM shirts.

End of argument.

[snottyduck]

Re: Are there any black (African) Goths and what color do they we

WRONG AGAIN, DUCK! HEAVY METAL IS GOTH! So is black metal, punk, grunge, thrash, post-punk, neo-folk etc etc. Because Goths listen to all these musics - and more.

You know, you worthless goth freaks come onto these forums year in and year out, and tell us that goth is NOT the music! That it is a style and a state of mind and a way of dress and a way of living. As I said, you all 'claim' to all be into a diverse taste in music from post-punk to metal to industrial to rock music, and 'claim' that goth is NOT the music.

We have seen goths on these forums years before Virginia Tech happened, claiming they like 'guns and roses'. Same with Columbine. Apparently 'Manson' WAS goth BEFORE Columbine. So now he isn't??? Big surprise! You freaks will do anything to cover your own asses. First Goth is not the music, now it is??? We are NOT niave'.

LOL, So, did you ever go to any of the things you mentioned here?? I guess not, so who are you to know what's really going on??

First of all, Metalheads and Goths rarely go to each others gigs or parties, it happens but it's not a frequent thing. Second, if you don't know that Post-Punk is another name for Goth than you are certainly not very informed about Goth. Third, the other styles you mention have either nothing to do with Goth (like grunge and all) they attract a completely different kind of people that are not even remotely Goth.

I do not claim you cannot listen to all those others but if you want a pure definition of Goth then your definition is not correct. Just like you claim MM is Goth, he isn't, he is a shockrocker who obviously wants to shock people with his appearance.

Have you ever been to a MM show? Full of goths. What do goths wear? MM shirts.

End of argument.

I do not even have CD's or even have a shirt of MM. I went once to a concert and was happy when it was over, I was glad I had free tickets because otherwise I would have been a waste money. What I saw was very little real Goths, many posers, yes, but Goths, not many.

[shadow's slut (Quarantined)]

Re: Are there any black (African) Goths and what color do they we

Are you a queer? And a race-traitor too? And now you want to claim that goth trash are capable of being Christian?

Do you know how idiotic you sound?

Try reading more of this forum, nancyboy. You might learn something. I'll be praying for you.

I'm a girl. I do not sound idiotic and I'm not a "race-traitor." What on Mother Earth is a "race-traitor?"

Goths are not trash....for the most part! Not all of us are vandals, or vampires, or anything of the like! Most of us really do lead normal lives!

[Nobar King]

Re: Are there any black (African) Goths and what color do they we

Great. Now I'm a high school Asian lolita candy raver.

[shadow's slut (Quarantined)]

Re: Are there any black (African) Goths and what color do they we

I'm sorry, but I am having trouble understanding what you mean.

[Virginia Day Templeton]

Re: Are there any black (African) Goths and what color do they we

Could that be because you're a blithering idiot?

[shadow's slut (Quarantined)]

Re: Are there any black (African) Goths and what color do they we

Well, no, it could be that Nobar King is just saying words and not elaborating on them.

[RayvenFool]

Re: Are there any black (African) Goths and what color do they we

You know I just LOVE when people who know absolutely NOTHING about SOMETHING and then claim to be know it all experts. Yes there are Black Goths, Emos, punks, pagan, heathens, wiccans, jews, etc etc whatever label you want to slap on us. If its something that appeals to us we are there.

Got a problem with it? There's the border, get out of the country and take your bs with you.

1. All Goths do not worship Satan. You are more likely to find a Luciferian or Anton Levist wearing a nice suit and working on wall street.

2.Being goth has ZERO to do with religion.

3. Goth Christians are BETTER Christians than those that seem to have their own moral deficiency and have nothing better to do than talk crap on a message board.

4. Hitler was not goth

5. Goths aren't racist. People are racist, doesn't matter what social group they have been pigeon holed into.

6. Goths don't hate Blacks or any other race.

7. Idiots like the ones who have been posting on this board are no more likely to see Heaven than Hitler was. Trust me your god is sick of you speaking for him and making him and his TRUE followers look like a bunch of bigoted ignorant sheep.

8. I am a black goth and I wear whatever the hell suits my mood for the day. If its jeans and a tank top so be it. If its a corset and jeans so be it. Being goth has nothing to do with it. I wear what I want when I want.

9. Plenty of Goths ARE Christian because again what you wear and what you listen to has JACK SHIT to do with what you believe.

10. I made this account just because I came across the forum on a Google search and what seemed harmless at first turned out to be a big hunk of horse shit spouted by people who's lives are so sad, devoid of spirituality and moral that its an insult to Christianity.

So from a BLACK Goth, parent, Heathen and proud to be one;

FUCK OFF and Odin bless...actually skip that part since you lot are deserving of the blessings of ANY deity.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Are there any black (African) Goths and what color do they we

1. All Goths do not worship Satan. You are more likely to find a Luciferian or Anton Levist wearing a nice suit and working on wall street.

I challenge you to come up with proof - Biblical or otherwise - for that claim.

2.Being goth has ZERO to do with religion.

And EVERYTHING to do with Satan.

3. Goth Christians are BETTER Christians than those that seem to have their own moral deficiency and have nothing better to do than talk crap on a message board.

I challenge you to come up with proof - Biblical or otherwise - for that claim.

4. Hitler was not goth

He was not goth in the way that Christ was not a Christian and Marx was not a Marxist.

5. Goths aren't racist. People are racist, doesn't matter what social group they have been pigeon holed into.

So does this mean that goths aren't people?

7. Idiots like the ones who have been posting on this board are no more likely to see Heaven than Hitler was. Trust me your god is sick of you speaking for him and making him and his TRUE followers look like a bunch of bigoted ignorant sheep.

I challenge you to come up with proof - Biblical or otherwise - for that claim.

8. I am a black goth and I wear whatever the hell suits my mood for the day. If its jeans and a tank top so be it. If its a corset and jeans so be it. Being goth has nothing to do with it. I wear what I want when I want.

But if you were a proper person and not a goth you wouldn't want to wear a corset.

9. Plenty of Goths ARE Christian because again what you wear and what you listen to has JACK SHIT to do with what you believe.

I challenge you to come up with proof - Biblical or otherwise - for that claim.

10. I made this account just because I came across the forum on a Google search and what seemed harmless at first turned out to be a big hunk of horse shit spouted by people who's lives are so sad, devoid of spirituality and moral that its an insult to Christianity.

What do you know about Christianity? You're a darkie who thinks they're a viking. I wouldn't trust you to tell me what you had for breakfast this morning, let alone what God thinks about anything.

[RayvenFool]

Re: Are there any black (African) Goths and what color do they we

I challenge you to come up with proof - Biblical or otherwise - for that claim.

Which one? That not all goths are not Satan worshipers or that the average satanist is a very "normal looking person

And EVERYTHING to do with Satan.

Are you that dense? Satan is a RELIGIOUS concept and the typical imagery an insult to pagans. Being goth has nothing to do with religion and thus cannot have ANYTHING let alone EVERYTHING to do with Satan.

I challenge you to come up with proof - Biblical or otherwise - for that claim.

*points to darkie comment further down* See only racist idiots who could never get with let alone have a meaningful relationship with ANYONE let alone a woman of ethnic background would say that. Some Christian you are.

But hey if you want proof and you are worried about bursting into flames the minute you walk through the door, go to your local goth club, oh wait you'd have to dress to fit in. I bet you don't own black clothes at all do you?

He was not goth in the way that Christ was not a Christian and Marx was not a Marxist.

Actually he was an art obsessed whack job who managed to like many persuasive leaders in the history of the would put his ideals and voice in front of like minded people and then piss away all the funding he was given to fuel his art obsession.

Jesus wasn't a Christian. Jesus was JEWISH. You're as bad as neo nazis and white power idiots who claimed Jesus was WHITE for the longest time yet forgetting his homeland was the goddamn middle east.

So does this mean that goths aren't people?

I see I will have to dumb down the rest of my responses so as they do not fly over your intellectually challenged frontal lobe

I challenge you to come up with proof - Biblical or otherwise - for that claim.

When you and the rest of the fools on here have removed the planks from your eyes then maybe you will actually be fit to make judgment calls simply based on what you see and not what any of you idiots actually knows. Oh wait no you won't because you lot will never realize that you have fallen very short of the mark of what it means to be a GOOD Christian. This thread is proof of that.

But if you were a proper person and not a goth you wouldn't want to wear a corset.

Oh yes because proper people don't wear garments that have been both outer and under garments for centuries. Do you think before you start typing?

Actually I AM a proper person. I've never been to jail, never killed anyone. I go to work I pay my bills and take care of my son. I am a good and loyal friend and caring to my lovers. I also don't go around making judgment calls based on clothing alone.

I challenge you to come up with proof - Biblical or otherwise - for that claim.

Hmm I didn't know there were any Bible quotes that squat to do with being goth or emo and considering I have more than likely read the Bible more than you, I'd love for you to provide a scripture proving otherwise.

What do you know about Christianity? You're a darkie who thinks they're a viking. I wouldn't trust you to tell me what you had for breakfast this morning, let alone what God thinks about anything.

I didn't know the gods cared about skin color. Are you actually racist enough to say that because I am black and pagan that I know nothing of Christianity? I know plenty because my mother's side of the family is Baptist. My father's side is Methodist. I grew up around better Christians, hell atheists who were better people than the ones on this board. I chose to switch religions, the reasons why are know of your narrow minded business though. And no I don't think I am a viking I just happen to divide my worship between the Norse, Celt and Egyptian Pantheon.

And yes I am a BLACK woman I am also Shoshone and Scott/Irish. What's it to YOU? WHEN I was a Christian I was a better Christian than you.


-The unsaved trash < By the way it'll be a cold day in the underworld before I ever go back to Christianity. I made my choice at 13, my parents respected that and I could care less if a bunch of narrow minded prigs think I am unsaved by their standards.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Are there any black (African) Goths and what color do they we

Brother Temperence, it is obvious the 'goth' is really wack job. She has no idea what she is talking about. You can also tell she is lying about where she lives (unless she just moved there) as you and I both know she is a brit. A US of A born nigra would not be so uppity and would know her place. Those brit ones think they are normal. Isn't that funny?

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: Are there any black (African) Goths and what color do they we

Trust me your god is sick of you speaking for him and making him and his TRUE followers look like a bunch of bigoted ignorant sheep.

Jesus wasn't a Christian. Jesus was JEWISH. You're as bad as neo nazis and white power idiots who claimed Jesus was WHITE for the longest time yet forgetting his homeland was the goddamn middle east.

Ha! Shows how little you know! Not only do we have 100% PROOF that Jesus is very pleased with how we spread His Word, but that He is blue-eyed and blond-haired!

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=29379

Don't you feel like an idiot now? So tell me, does your master know you're wasting time on the Internet when you should be cleaning his house or ironing his shirts? If he kicks you out in the street for this, you'll be lucky if even a wetback would hire you as his maid!

And yes I am a BLACK woman I am also Shoshone and Scott/Irish. What's it to YOU? WHEN I was a Christian I was a better Christian than you.

Though I do have to wonder if your about as black as Dogspit Wolfburgers is injun.