[cam the papist]

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First you worship Mary the whore, now it's a nigra Jesus!?

Look, Seamus, Jesus is White, and He has blond hair and blue eyes just like me! Read THIS!

And you know what, ive told you about 3 times before. We don't worship Mary. I don't know if you can understand that, but its true. And its impossible to be white and have blue eyes, because Jesus wasn't from Britian. He was from the middle east. Nobody from Bethlehem had blonde hair and blue eyes. The reason why the bible said his hair was white and all that is because what they are saying is using that to simbolize he was pure, and radiant.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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Hello, im catholic and came across your site. First, i just wanted to clear things up. Catholics do not worship Jesus' mother Mary, we respect her. We also do not worship the saints, we respect them as well because of how good they were. We do not take part in any idolotry. If you see us bowing to or praying to any pictures of Jesus or Mary or the saints, its a sign of us respecting and remembering them. If you had a family member who died, how would you try and look at them or remember them? A picture of course. Thats the same reason why we bow and pray to statues and pictures of God, Mary, and the saints. I am not on here to start arguements, but if any of you have questions about catholics and their beliefs and practices then feel free to contact me and ask!

God bless!

I understand you Catholics have a great deal of respect for little boys as well.

[cam the papist]

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I understand you Catholics have a great deal of respect for little boys as well.

Priests may molest, but we don't. That also doesn't mean the religion is bad either, after all, Studies have also shown that more of these kind of things happen in other christian denominations and the reformed church than in the catholic church.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Priests may molest, but we don't. That also doesn't mean the religion is bad either, after all, Studies have also shown that more of these kind of things happen in other christian denominations and the reformed church than in the catholic church.

Really? Which studies are those? Post them here.

[cam the papist]

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Really? Which studies are those? Post them here.

Excerpts of an article written by non-Catholic Sam Miller - a prominent Cleveland Jewish businessman:

"Why would newspapers carry on a vendetta on one of the most important institutions that we have today in the United States , namely the Catholic Church?

Do you know - the Catholic Church educates 2.6 million students everyday at the cost to that Church of 10 billion dollars, and a savings on the other hand to the American taxpayer of 18 billion dollars. The graduates go on to graduate studies at the rate of 92%.

The Church has 230 colleges and universities in the U.S. with an enrollment of 700,000 students.

The Catholic Church has a non-profit hospital system of 637 hospitals, which account for hospital treatment of 1 out of every 5 people - not just Catholics - in the United States today

But the press is vindictive and trying to totally denigrate in every way the Catholic Church in this country. They have blamed the disease of pedophilia on the Catholic Church, which is as irresponsible as blaming adultery on the institution of marriage.

Let me give you some figures that Catholics should know and remember. For example, 12% of the 300 Protestant clergy surveyed admitted to sexual intercourse with a parishioner; 38% acknowledged other inappropriate sexual contact in a study by the United Methodist Church , 41.8% of clergy women reported unwanted sexual behavior; 17% of laywomen have been sexually harassed.

Meanwhile, 1.7% of the Catholic clergy has been found guilty of pedophilia. 10% of the Protestant ministers have been found guilty of pedophilia. This is not a Catholic Problem.

A study of American priests showed that most are happy in the priesthood and find it even better than they had expected, and that most, if given the choice, would choose to be priests again in face of all this obnoxious PR the church has been receiving.

The Catholic Church is bleeding from self-inflicted wounds. The agony that Catholics have felt and suffered is not necessarily the fault of the Church. You have been hurt by a small number of wayward priests that have probably been totally weeded out by now.

Walk with your shoulders high and you head higher. Be a proud member of the most important non-governmental agency in the United States . Then remember what Jeremiah said: 'Stand by the roads, and look and ask for the ancient paths, where the good way is and walk in it, and find rest for your souls'. Be proud to speak up for your faith with pride and reverence and learn what your Church does for all other religions.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Some Christ-killing joo writes a newspaper article and you call that "evidence" and "research?"

Leave it to a papist...

[cam the papist]

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Some Christ-killing joo writes a newspaper article and you call that "evidence" and "research?"

Leave it to a papist...

No, ive heard it other places too. This is really the only thing i could find that is written. I knew if i told you that i heard this in different places you would act like a little girl and say im lying. Even then, you wouldn't be happy with any evidence. You hate atheists so would probably ignore it, and same with every other religion out there. Not everyone is the same religion as you, so i guess every document not written by someone with the same religion as you is false. Anyways, i found something else.
[papist link deleted]

[cam the papist]

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You deletedmy link.. Okay, i see how it is. Then i will try and find something more secular, something that has a biased opinion against the church just to make you happy.
Here is something else i found, its a study conducted by the John Clay college of Criminal justice.
[papist link deleted]

But from seeing you delete my link, it seems like you don't want to see an article where the catholic church gathers its guts to defend itself. But before i go on, i must say that the church has more life than its molestation and rape charges. Remember the article written by the "joo"? he provides some good statistics.

the Catholic Church educates 2.6 million students everyday at the cost to that Church of 10 billion dollars, and a savings on the other hand to the American taxpayer of 18 billion dollars. The graduates go on to graduate studies at the rate of 92%.

The Church has 230 colleges and universities in the U.S. with an enrollment of 700,000 students.

The Catholic Church has a non-profit hospital system of 637 hospitals, which account for hospital treatment of 1 out of every 5 people - not just Catholics - in the United States today

What does your church do?

[cam the papist]

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I hate you guys, seems like you are a divine revelation. Is this true?!

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

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I hate you guys, seems like you are a divine revelation. Is this true?!

Yes we are a divine revelation of the Truth.

Now defend your cult against the Bible, papist!

1 Timothy 4:1-4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

Doctrines of devils. You have taken to the veneration and prayer of people even though Jesus says no man can come to the father except through Him.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

You have forbidden priests and bishops to marry even though the Bible specifically says they should be.

1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

You have made people abstain from meat during your lent celebration.

How does it feel to be so against the Bible?

[Paul Bartley]

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Yes we are a divine revelation of the Truth.

Now defend your cult against the Bible, papist!

1 Timothy 4:1-4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

Doctrines of devils. You have taken to the veneration and prayer of people even though Jesus says no man can come to the father except through Him.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

You have forbidden priests and bishops to marry even though the Bible specifically says they should be.

1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

You have made people abstain from meat during your lent celebration.

How does it feel to be so against the Bible?

Excellent points! You have really shown all that is wrong with the Catholic Church. Well...all that hasn't been rated NC-17

[wait_what]

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So, to the papist. While your religion is your choice and your relationship with your redeemer is your accountability, I would like to point out a few things about saints and icons.

First:

Psalms 115

Our God is in the heavens—Idols are false gods—Trust in the Lord.

1Not unto us, O Lord, not unto us, but unto thy aname give glory, for thy mercy, and for thy truth’s sake.

2Wherefore should the heathen say, Where is now their God?

3But our God is in the heavens: he hath done whatsoever he hath pleased.

4Their aidols are silver and gold, the bwork of men’s hands.

5They have mouths, but they aspeak not: eyes have they, but they bsee not:

6They have ears, but they hear not: noses have they, but they smell not:

7They have hands, but they handle not: feet have they, but they walk not: neither speak they through their throat.

8They that make them are like unto them; so is every one that trusteth in them.

9O Israel, atrust thou in the Lord: he is their help and their shield.

10O house of Aaron, trust in the Lord: he is their help and their shield.

11Ye that fear the Lord, trust in the Lord: he is their help and their shield.

12The Lord hath been mindful of us: he will bless us; he will bless the house of Israel; he will bless the house of Aaron.

13He will bless them that fear the Lord, both small and great.

14The Lord shall aincrease you more and more, you and your children.

15Ye are ablessed of the Lord which made heaven and earth.

16The heaven, even the heavens, are the Lord’s: but the earth hath he given to the children of men.

17The adead praise not the Lord, neither any that go down into silence.

18But we will bless the Lord from this time forth and for evermore. Praise the Lord.

Next

Ezekiel 14:1-11

1Then came certain of the aelders of Israel unto me, and sat before me.

2And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,

3Son of man, these men have set up their idols in their heart, and put the stumblingblock of their ainiquity before their face: should I be benquired of at all by cthem?

4Therefore speak unto them, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Every man of the house of Israel that setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the astumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to the prophet; I the Lord will answer him that cometh according to the multitude of his idols;

5That I may take the house of Israel in their own heart, because they are all estranged from me through their idols.

6¶Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord God; Repent, and turn yourselves from your idols; and turn away your faces from all your abominations.

7For every one of the house of Israel, or of the stranger that sojourneth in Israel, which separateth himself from me, and setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to a prophet to enquire of him concerning me; I the Lord will answer him by myself:

8And I will set my aface against that man, and will make him a bsign and a proverb, and I will cut him off from the midst of my people; and ye shall know that I am the Lord.

9And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.

10And they shall bear the apunishment of their iniquity: the punishment of the prophet shall be even as the punishment of him that seeketh unto him;

11That the house of Israel may go no more astray from me, neither be polluted any more with all their transgressions; but that they may be my apeople, and I may be their God, saith the Lord God.



I can go on if you like. Kissing statues and worshipping dead people or representations of good people is NOT worshipping the Lord.

[ExGay Alex]

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Kissing statues and worshipping dead people or representations of good people is NOT worshipping the Lord.

Yes indeedy, and neither is diddling little boys. I don't see how Catholics can even think of getting to heaven. Chinese have a better chance.

[Bible Student]

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Hello, im catholic and came across your site. First, i just wanted to clear things up. Catholics do not worship Jesus' mother Mary, we respect her. We also do not worship the saints, we respect them as well because of how good they were. We do not take part in any idolotry. If you see us bowing to or praying to any pictures of Jesus or Mary or the saints, its a sign of us respecting and remembering them. If you had a family member who died, how would you try and look at them or remember them? A picture of course. Thats the same reason why we bow and pray to statues and pictures of God, Mary, and the saints. I am not on here to start arguements, but if any of you have questions about catholics and their beliefs and practices then feel free to contact me and ask!

God bless!

I respect my mother and my father, but I don't pray to them.

[PrinsesseAnja]

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Hello, im catholic and came across your site. First, i just wanted to clear things up. Catholics do not worship Jesus' mother Mary, we respect her. We also do not worship the saints, we respect them as well because of how good they were. We do not take part in any idolotry. If you see us bowing to or praying to any pictures of Jesus or Mary or the saints, its a sign of us respecting and remembering them. If you had a family member who died, how would you try and look at them or remember them? A picture of course. Thats the same reason why we bow and pray to statues and pictures of God, Mary, and the saints. I am not on here to start arguements, but if any of you have questions about catholics and their beliefs and practices then feel free to contact me and ask!

God bless!

You are right, but the people here are some male chauvinists persons and they will not listen, no matter what proof you have, they still won't believe what you say. :-(