[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Shalom

The ignorance of the Jewish faith and our history is astounding. Is everyone here a mouth-breathing hate monger?

1.) Those of you that are so fond of Deutschland are fortunate that you do not reside there. Such callous dismissal of the Nazi atrocities is against the law and Germans have been incarcerated for statements such as yours. Even Germany fully admits to the Holocaust.

2.) Kindly remove the "Christ-killing joo" moniker. Even if Jews were ultimately responsible for the death of your Christ, it is irrelevant. By Jesus' own teachings, He would forgive. And since He HAD to die to "save" you, you should be grateful to whoever nailed Him to the cross. Regardless, I as a Jew, did NOT kill him.

3.) I DO read the "KJV" bible. Many here do not seem to understand that the Torah refers to the first five books of the OT. And I read it in the original Hebrew as God had Moses write it. One of the reasons you Christians have such a hard time selling others on your religion is due to the silliness it has become in "American" English.

4.) Torah laws concerning usury only apply to transactions between Jews.
I actually charge no interest at all to my Jewish brethren. All others, being non-Jewish, represent substantial risk and are handled accordingly.

I hope we can move forward with civil discussion.

Shalom

Take that demonic gibberish out of your signature. That space is reserved for KJV Scripture ONLY. In God's favorite language (American!)!

And stop being argumentative.

[James Dewitt]

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I just want to know one simple thing, why did you kill Jesus?

[Levi Jones]

Re: Shalom

Thank you for the first courteous reply I have seen.

I am an Ashkenazic Jew and a direct descendant of Polish and German Jews. This is why I find denial of the Holocaust particularly offensive.

I am fluent in Hebrew and therefore have no need for the Septuagint. The Greeks are the ones that really screwed up translations. Imagine trying to translate metaphorical and pictoral Hebrew through that mess that no one even understands today.

Shalom

Why is it that the oldest "pure" Hebrew texts come from the 9th century c.e.?

The Septuagint predates you Christ killers texts by 1200-1300 years.

I can see you are a real mensch.

[Jo Freddie]

Re: Shalom

In God's favorite language (American!)!

[Jo Freddie]

Re: Shalom

I just want to know one simple thing, why did you kill Jesus?

In the KJV-CFT they were framed by Jesus and his old man.

[EPH289]

Re: Shalom

I am sadden by your heartless comment about the murder of Jesus. Please take time to reflect on what Brother Warner said.

He's commenting to an other post that was made earlier

Calling you a 'kike' or a 'hebe' is pointless and rude and unChristian. A Christ-killer, certainly, as that is only factual.

You ASK to be punished by making the request to call you names. You ASK to be punished by coming onto this CHRISTIAN site, spoiling for a fight. Isn't that the history of your people? You act out like a disobedient whiny child, and God is forced to punish you throughout history. It must have taken a real effort to make a civilized nation so angry with you they killed six million of your number in that little unpleasantness called the Third Reich.

A killer by law is a murderer.

Funny thing is that you all point to the bible, so basically you all believe in it. But yet condemn Jews that they are murderer for having crucified Jesus, which was God plans in the beginning of things as he had already promised his coming in the old testament.

Yet all of you forget a few points. Jesus being the son lf Maria, was a jew, and his disciple were Jews. Not only that but Paul who wasn't directly a disciple of Jesus was also a Jew.

So saying that Jews are Christ Killers.. well that's outright false, they only accomplished the plan of God, so that all could be saved.

[Lisa H]

Re: Shalom

He's commenting to an other post that was made earlier



A killer by law is a murderer.

Funny thing is that you all point to the bible, so basically you all believe in it. But yet condemn Jews that they are murderer for having crucified Jesus, which was God plans in the beginning of things as he had already promised his coming in the old testament.

Yet all of you forget a few points. Jesus being the son lf Maria, was a jew, and his disciple were Jews. Not only that but Paul who wasn't directly a disciple of Jesus was also a Jew.

So saying that Jews are Christ Killers.. well that's outright false, they only accomplished the plan of God, so that all could be saved.

So you agree with him. Don't you feel sad that Jesus was murdered.

[EPH289]

Re: Shalom

So you agree with him. Don't you feel sad that Jesus was murdered.

I don't feel sad that he sacrificed himself. He knew perfectly the reason why he was on earth. He chose his fate because his love for us was greater than anything, and because it was part of a greater plan.

Remember he even told Judas that he forgave him for what he was about to do, at the last dinner they had with him.

Jesus being God already knew he was going to die because that is what he had planned.

In john 13:24-30 You even see Jesus telling Judas to do what he had to do.

26Jesus answered, "It is the one to whom I will give this piece of bread when I have dipped it in the dish." Then, dipping the piece of bread, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, son of Simon. 27As soon as Judas took the bread, Satan entered into him. "What you are about to do, do quickly," Jesus told him, 28but no one at the meal understood why Jesus said this to him. 29Since Judas had charge of the money, some thought Jesus was telling him to buy what was needed for the Feast, or to give something to the poor. 30As soon as Judas had taken the bread, he went out. And it was night.

So you see, it's by the will of Jesus (God) that he was actually sacrificed. He could have stopped it any time, and it could have happened in any other place on the world. So by being fully aware that he was about to die, by having planned it before hand, as it was prophesied in the old testament, and by telling Judas to hurry and do what he knew he was going to do, was that murder? No. It was God who guided man to do what was needed to be done to save mankind.

[Lisa H]

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I don't feel sad that he sacrificed himself. He knew perfectly the reason why he was on earth. He chose his fate because his love for us was greater than anything, and because it was part of a greater plan.

Remember he even told Judas that he forgave him for what he was about to do, at the last dinner they had with him.

Jesus being God already knew he was going to die because that is what he had planned.

In john 13:24-30 You even see Jesus telling Judas to do what he had to do.

26Jesus answered, "It is the one to whom I will give this piece of bread when I have dipped it in the dish." Then, dipping the piece of bread, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, son of Simon. 27As soon as Judas took the bread, Satan entered into him. "What you are about to do, do quickly," Jesus told him, 28but no one at the meal understood why Jesus said this to him. 29Since Judas had charge of the money, some thought Jesus was telling him to buy what was needed for the Feast, or to give something to the poor. 30As soon as Judas had taken the bread, he went out. And it was night.

So you see, it's by the will of Jesus (God) that he was actually sacrificed. He could have stopped it any time, and it could have happened in any other place on the world. So by being fully aware that he was about to die, by having planned it before hand, as it was prophesied in the old testament, and by telling Judas to hurry and do what he knew he was going to do, was that murder? No. It was God who guided man to do what was needed to be done to save mankind.

Go back and look at my post at #17. The Jews could have saved Him. How many did Jesus heal from demons and sickness.

[Jo Freddie]

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Go back and look at my post at #17. The Jews could have saved Him. How many did Jesus heal from demons and sickness.

That would not have fitted with the plot of the story the chasers had in mind, the plot was that Jesus and his old man wanted to frame the Jews.

[David Rothstein]

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Why is it that the oldest "pure" Hebrew texts come from the 9th century c.e.?

The Septuagint predates you Christ killers texts by 1200-1300 years.

I can see you are a real mensch.

Most of the contents of the Tanakh (or Masoretic Text) was compiled by 450 BCE and has remained essentially unchanged to this date.

The Dead Sea Scrolls date to 150 BCE and 70 CE.

The Dead Sea Scrolls essentially confirm the authenticity of the Tanakh. This should not be a surprise as the Tanakh is NOT a translation and therefore not subject to the linguistic compromises of a Greek rendering of Hebrew that one finds in the Septuagint.

Shalom

[Phebe Carlyle]

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Most of the contents of the Tanakh (or Masoretic Text) was compiled by 450 BCE and has remained essentially unchanged to this date.

The Dead Sea Scrolls date to 150 BCE and 70 CE.

The Dead Sea Scrolls essentially confirm the authenticity of the Tanakh. This should not be a surprise as the Tanakh is NOT a translation and therefore not subject to the linguistic compromises of a Greek rendering of Hebrew that one finds in the Septuagint.

Shalom

Hmm... Seems strange that a Joo would have to resort to wikipedia for information, sir!

Just know, here we don't even bother with the tripe posted there as "fact"

Try again, Jesus killer!

YIC

Mrs. Phebe Dewitt.

[Warner S. Davidson]

Re: Shalom

Originally Posted by Mrs. Phebe Dewitt
Hmm... Seems strange that a Joo would have to resort to wikipedia for information, sir!

Just know, here we don't even bother with the tripe posted there as "fact"

Try again, Jesus killer!

YIC

Mrs. Phebe Dewitt.

Sister Phebe

There is little doubt that he is a grubby money trading charlatan.
It is apparent that nothing changes even after 2000 years.

I am surprised that he has the time to spare as all Joos are time poor.
In between murdering God’s saviours, pawning watches, worshipping Satan and selling bagel franchises where is the time to torment us True Christians(tm)?

[David Rothstein]

Re: Shalom

Hmm... Seems strange that a Joo would have to resort to wikipedia for information, sir!

Just know, here we don't even bother with the tripe posted there as "fact"

Try again, Jesus killer!

YIC

Mrs. Phebe Dewitt.

Mrs. Dimwitt,

Your response is disheartening. I thought we might get somewhere through civil and intellectual intercourse, but I see that you are just one of the hundreds of rabid mouth-breathing fanatics here, and a woman no less. But your self-loathing and tendency to strike out as a serpent is understandable given your wicked sin.

"And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat." Genesis 3:6

Even as a wealthy Jew, I do not have access to the Dead Sea Scrolls. But you can order our Tanakh here, provided you have any money as a Gentile, which is doubtful.

Shalom

[Levi Jones]

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Most of the contents of the Tanakh (or Masoretic Text) was compiled by 450 BCE and has remained essentially unchanged to this date.

No one is buying it, Schlomo. The oldest Hebrew texts are the masoretic texts.

The Dead Sea Scrolls date to 150 BCE and 70 CE.

Discovered with what? Oh yeah, the old Hebrew with a collection of Christian writings.

The Dead Sea Scrolls essentially confirm the authenticity of the Tanakh.
Shalom

I accept your belief in Christ!

Welcome, Brother in Jesus!