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  • Mrs. Rogers
    compassion personified
    True Christian™
    • Sep 2006
    • 2692

    #16
    Re: Hope you actually read this you christian parents.

    Originally posted by XoCuppycake View Post
    *Giving medicine is negligence* could you explain??
    As Brother COM said, sickness is a punishment from God for doing something wrong; we question His judgment whenever we try to heal ourselves or our loved ones. We need to place our trust in the LORD's ability to heal us, should He choose to. He is a jealous God, and He is not fond of having to compete with mere doctors.
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    • XoCuppycake
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      • Jan 2010
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      #17
      Re: Hope you actually read this you christian parents.

      but do you really believe that childeren around the world are sick, or in pain because thats what God wants?
      sorry, *NoDisrespect* but i just feel that this belief goes against the whole christian teaching of what God is.

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      • Mrs. Rogers
        compassion personified
        True Christian™
        • Sep 2006
        • 2692

        #18
        Re: Hope you actually read this you christian parents.

        Originally posted by XoCuppycake View Post
        but i just feel that this belief goes against the whole christian teaching of what God is.
        What Christian teaching would that be, dear? Please provide the relevant scripture.
        True Christians are Perfect!

        Signs that you belong to a FALSE Christian Church.

        Persecution You Have Endured for CHRIST: what doesn't kill you makes you stronger in Christ.

        For True Christians™ only: please send me Project Habakkuk updates at gertruderogers@landoverbaptist.net. Thank you.

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        • James Hutchins
          True Christian™
          Just a Regular Nice Guy
           
          • Jun 2009
          • 29453

          #19
          Re: Hope you actually read this you christian parents.

          Originally posted by XoCuppycake View Post
          but do you really believe that childeren around the world are sick, or in pain because thats what God wants?
          sorry, *NoDisrespect* but i just feel that this belief goes against the whole christian teaching of what God is.

          God does not want us to be sick. Nothing could be further from the truth.

          But just like a parent punishes a naughty child, God punishes us with sickness, whether it be a mere cold, a limb loss, retardation or gruesome death. In some instances, the punished did nothing wrong. A close loved one did and the punishment is seeing a loved one disfigured.
          Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
          Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
          Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
          Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
          Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
          Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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          • GOD=life
            WARNING: Do not attempt to debate. You will lose horribly.
            True Christian™
            • Jan 2010
            • 3263

            #20
            Re: Hope you actually read this you christian parents.

            Originally posted by XoCuppycake View Post
            but do you really believe that childeren around the world are sick, or in pain because thats what God wants?
            That is what the Bible says, correct.

            Keep in mind that God has destroyed cities (Sodom and Gomorrah) and even flooded the entire earth because He was displeased.

            The Bible does not leave much room for doubt that angering God is not very smart.

            Originally posted by XoCuppycake View Post
            sorry, *NoDisrespect* but i just feel that this belief goes against the whole christian teaching of what God is.
            Why? Does the Bible tell you that it's OK to anger God?

            We don't just pray to God, we look for the actual reason God is angry.
            I take my orders from Jesus H. Christ, supernatural born US citizen

            Be wary of false Kumbaya Christians who use a highlighter and scissors to read the Bible. God wants us to read the lines, not between the lines. False Christians will go to Hell:
            Matthew 7:22
            Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
            Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

            Asking a Christian to prove God exists is like asking him to prove his phone rings because yours doesn't. Make that call yourself! Dial 0800-get-on-your-knees-and-pray.

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            • XoCuppycake
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              • Jan 2010
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              #21
              Re: Hope you actually read this you christian parents.

              Originally posted by GOD=life View Post
              That is what the Bible says, correct.

              Keep in mind that God has destroyed cities (Sodom and Gomorrah) and even flooded the entire earth because He was displeased.

              The Bible does not leave much room for doubt that angering God is not very smart.


              Why? Does the Bible tell you that it's OK to anger God?

              We don't just pray to God, we look for the actual reason God is angry.
              what would you say about genetic dissorders then? e.g. - a baby born with a deseise such as cystic-fybrosis, - how could a baby anger God before it has been born?

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              • James Hutchins
                True Christian™
                Just a Regular Nice Guy
                 
                • Jun 2009
                • 29453

                #22
                Re: Hope you actually read this you christian parents.

                Read my previous post.

                A deformed or even dead baby is a punishment to the parents, grand parents, siblings or other close family member (You know who you are ).
                Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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                • XoCuppycake
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                  #23
                  Re: Hope you actually read this you christian parents.

                  Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post
                  Read my previous post.

                  A deformed or even dead baby is a punishment to the parents, grand parents, siblings or other close family member (You know who you are ).
                  yes, i did read it, but i'm sorry --> i just don't agree

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                  • GOD=life
                    WARNING: Do not attempt to debate. You will lose horribly.
                    True Christian™
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 3263

                    #24
                    Re: Hope you actually read this you christian parents.

                    Originally posted by XoCuppycake View Post
                    what would you say about genetic dissorders then? e.g. - a baby born with a deseise such as cystic-fybrosis, - how could a baby anger God before it has been born?
                    I have to concur with what Brother James has said.

                    Leviticus 21:
                    16 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 17 Speak unto Aaron, saying, Whosoever he be of thy seed in their generations that hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God. 18 For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous, 19 Or a man that is broken-footed, or broken-handed, 20 Or crookbacked, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken; 21 No man that hath a blemish of the seed of Aaron the priest shall come nigh to offer the offerings of the LORD made by fire: he hath a blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of his God. 22 He shall eat the bread of his God, both of the most holy, and of the holy. 23 Only he shall not go in unto the vail, nor come nigh unto the altar, because he hath a blemish; that he profane not my sanctuaries: for I the LORD do sanctify them. 24 And Moses told it unto Aaron, and to his sons, and unto all the children of Israel.
                    I take my orders from Jesus H. Christ, supernatural born US citizen

                    Be wary of false Kumbaya Christians who use a highlighter and scissors to read the Bible. God wants us to read the lines, not between the lines. False Christians will go to Hell:
                    Matthew 7:22
                    Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
                    Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

                    Asking a Christian to prove God exists is like asking him to prove his phone rings because yours doesn't. Make that call yourself! Dial 0800-get-on-your-knees-and-pray.

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                    • GOD=life
                      WARNING: Do not attempt to debate. You will lose horribly.
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                      • Jan 2010
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                      #25
                      Re: Hope you actually read this you christian parents.

                      Originally posted by XoCuppycake View Post
                      yes, i did read it, but i'm sorry --> i just don't agree
                      You are free to disagree with God and the Bible. It's your free will after all.

                      You will probably also disagree with being sent to Hell........
                      I take my orders from Jesus H. Christ, supernatural born US citizen

                      Be wary of false Kumbaya Christians who use a highlighter and scissors to read the Bible. God wants us to read the lines, not between the lines. False Christians will go to Hell:
                      Matthew 7:22
                      Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
                      Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

                      Asking a Christian to prove God exists is like asking him to prove his phone rings because yours doesn't. Make that call yourself! Dial 0800-get-on-your-knees-and-pray.

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                      • James Hutchins
                        True Christian™
                        Just a Regular Nice Guy
                         
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 29453

                        #26
                        Re: Hope you actually read this you christian parents.

                        Originally posted by XoCuppycake View Post
                        yes, i did read it, but i'm sorry --> i just don't agree
                        As others have and will say, that is your right. But it does not change anything. But what you can do instead is live by the Bible, 110%, without deviation. If you and your family follow God's Word(tm) then you have nothing to worry about. Pretty simple way to get peace of mind if you ask me.

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                        Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                        Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                        Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                        Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                        Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                        Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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                        • XoCuppycake
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                          • Jan 2010
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                          #27
                          Re: Hope you actually read this you christian parents.

                          Originally posted by GOD=life View Post
                          You are free to disagree with God and the Bible. It's your free will after all.

                          You will probably also disagree with being sent to Hell........
                          what right have you got to tell anyone that their going to hell?!

                          just one thing, may i point out a fact which i'm sure you perfectly well know - that the bible was not written by God, - it was written by people based on the teachings of jesus, so ofcourse, as with all christians, i belive in the principles, but unlike you, i do not take it word for word. times have changed, and i would sudgest that you do too.

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                          • GOD=life
                            WARNING: Do not attempt to debate. You will lose horribly.
                            True Christian™
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 3263

                            #28
                            Re: Hope you actually read this you christian parents.

                            Originally posted by XoCuppycake View Post
                            what right have you got to tell anyone that their going to hell?!
                            None whatsoever. God makes that decision. However, I do know for a fact that God will not accept people into Heaven who built their house on sand instead of on a rock (see my signature for the passage).

                            I could also ask you what right you have to be sent to Heaven.


                            Originally posted by XoCuppycake View Post
                            just one thing, may i point out a fact which i'm sure you perfectly well know - that the bible was not written by God, ...
                            Is your message written by you or by your keyboard? Technically, yes, men wrote the Bible, but they did so while possessed by the Holy Spirit.

                            Originally posted by XoCuppycake View Post
                            but unlike you, i do not take it word for word. times have changed, and i would sudgest that you do too.
                            Then unlike me, you will go to Hell.

                            2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
                            2 Peter 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
                            Matthew 4:4 Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
                            I take my orders from Jesus H. Christ, supernatural born US citizen

                            Be wary of false Kumbaya Christians who use a highlighter and scissors to read the Bible. God wants us to read the lines, not between the lines. False Christians will go to Hell:
                            Matthew 7:22
                            Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
                            Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

                            Asking a Christian to prove God exists is like asking him to prove his phone rings because yours doesn't. Make that call yourself! Dial 0800-get-on-your-knees-and-pray.

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                            • XoCuppycake
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                              • Jan 2010
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                              #29
                              Re: Hope you actually read this you christian parents.

                              Originally posted by GOD=life View Post
                              Then unlike me, you will go to Hell.
                              oh, thats funny- a minute ago you had no right to say that(?) and,may i ask, how exactly can you follow the bible to the letter, when
                              A) it contradicts it'self an awful lot
                              there are so many different translations, each with slightly different messages

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                              • GOD=life
                                WARNING: Do not attempt to debate. You will lose horribly.
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                                • Jan 2010
                                • 3263

                                #30
                                Re: Hope you actually read this you christian parents.

                                Originally posted by XoCuppycake View Post
                                oh, thats funny- a minute ago you had no right to say that(?)
                                Ah, let me clear that up: I have no right to make that decision on behalf of God. However, I can point out what the Bible says about people who do not follow the Bible: they will go to Hell.

                                I can tell you that if you jump out of a building, you will drop down. But do I have the right or ability to control gravity? No. Will you drop? Yes.

                                Originally posted by XoCuppycake View Post
                                A) it contradicts it'self an awful lot
                                Please point out a contradiction. The ones on skepticsannotatedbible?

                                Originally posted by XoCuppycake View Post
                                there are so many different translations, each with slightly different messages
                                Which is exactly why we ONLY follow the KJV 1611 Bible.

                                You are completely right about the different messages... this is exactly why there is so much confusion.
                                I take my orders from Jesus H. Christ, supernatural born US citizen

                                Be wary of false Kumbaya Christians who use a highlighter and scissors to read the Bible. God wants us to read the lines, not between the lines. False Christians will go to Hell:
                                Matthew 7:22
                                Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
                                Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

                                Asking a Christian to prove God exists is like asking him to prove his phone rings because yours doesn't. Make that call yourself! Dial 0800-get-on-your-knees-and-pray.

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