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Default Day 243. Ezekiel 4-6 - 12-22-2009, 06:42 PM

Ezekiel 4-6

Ezekiel 4

1 Thou also, son of man, take thee a tile, and lay it before thee, and pourtray upon it the city, even Jerusalem:

Tile is a brick. God told Ezekiel to take a brick and put it in front of him. It would represent Jerusalem. This is sad. Jerusalem used to be a jewel, a crown, gold. Now, it's being represented as nothing more than a common brick.

2 And lay siege against it, and build a fort against it, and cast a mount against it; set the camp also against it, and set battering rams against it round about.

Zeke was to play war against the brick.

4 Lie thou also upon thy left side, and lay the iniquity of the house of Israel upon it: according to the number of the days that thou shalt lie upon it thou shalt bear their iniquity.

God told Ezekiel to lay on his left side.

5 For I have laid upon thee the years of their iniquity, according to the number of the days, three hundred and ninety days: so shalt thou bear the iniquity of the house of Israel.


A lot of Bible commentaries say something like this: 390 days is like 13 months, and we know the siege of Jerusalem was 18 months, the five missing months is when the Egyptian army came and the Chaldeans withdrew (for 5 months), and that gives the exact number of 390. Huzzah. That sounds like suspect math and trying to get something to fit into what you want it to mean.

6 And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year.

Ok, so now we have another 40 days/years that he's lying down on the job.

Perry Stone of Manna Fest did some math stuff once. His was a lot more interesting.

He said something about a seven times punishment, but I'm not sure what he was talking about.

8 And, behold, I will lay bands upon thee, and thou shalt not turn thee from one side to another, till thou hast ended the days of thy siege.

Those were possibly bed sores.

9 Take thou also unto thee wheat, and barley, and beans, and lentiles, and millet, and fitches, and put them in one vessel, and make thee bread thereof, according to the number of the days that thou shalt lie upon thy side, three hundred and ninety days shalt thou eat thereof.

Honestly, that sounds like some delicious bread. But in actuality, beans, and the other things don't make very good bread.

10 And thy meat which thou shalt eat shall be by weight, twenty shekels a day: from time to time shalt thou eat it.

Even if it was really good bread, he only got to eat 20 shekels worth. Twenty shekels is about 10 ounces. That's not much. For 390 days (plus 40) he only got to eat 10 ounces of bread a day.

11 Thou shalt drink also water by measure, the sixth part of an hin: from time to time shalt thou drink.

Oh, and you only get to drink a sixth of a hin of water a day. That comes out to about half a pint, 8 ounces.

12 And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight.

It's not bad enough that he only gets to eat 10 ounces of bread, and drink 8 ounces of water, he has to cook the bread over a human shit stove.

Some people will tell you that during the time he lay on his side that he only had to do it for a certain amount of time each day. The time when people would come to visit him. This makes no sense whatsoever. A cup of wheat has 214 calories, in 108 grams. There are 28.349 grams in an ounce. 10 ounces is 283 grams. If Ezekiel's bread was just wheat, it would have been 283 ounces of wheat, that comes out to about 561 calories in a day. Ezekiel wouldn't have the strength to do anything other than just lie on his side all day.

14 Then said I, Ah Lord GOD! behold, my soul hath not been polluted: for from my youth up even till now have I not eaten of that which dieth of itself, or is torn in pieces; neither came there abominable flesh into my mouth.

Zeke sounds a lot like Peter in Acts 10:14.

16 Moreover he said unto me, Son of man, behold, I will break the staff of bread in Jerusalem: and they shall eat bread by weight, and with care; and they shall drink water by measure, and with astonishment:


God said that Zeke's diet will be very reminiscent of the diet of the people who are under siege in Jerusalem. They will have measured bread, and measured water.

Ezekiel 5

1 And thou, son of man, take thee a sharp knife, take thee a barber's razor, and cause it to pass upon thine head and upon thy beard: then take thee balances to weigh, and divide the hair.

Making yourself bald, and without facial hair was a MASSIVE deal for these people. Even today, look up an image of Hasidic Jew and you see guys with long beards and hair. Look up a picture of almost any jew today and you'll see a jewfro. Jews love their hair, they are hardly ever bald.

2 Thou shalt burn with fire a third part in the midst of the city, when the days of the siege are fulfilled: and thou shalt take a third part, and smite about it with a knife: and a third part thou shalt scatter in the wind; and I will draw out a sword after them.

The hair represented Jerusalem. God was tired of it all, the hair was too long and ungainly. God wanted a new hairstyle. Instead of just going to a barber, God did the thing he does so well; he cut it all off. Instead of just weeding his garden, he plowed the whole thing under.

God doesn't just shave his head though... no, God then takes a third of his hair and burns it; a third he stabs with a knife, and a third he scatters in the wind. God could have given his hair to locks of love, and maybe a kid with cancer could have had a wig, but not our LORD! God gave the kid cancer, why would he want him to have a wig?

9 And I will do in thee that which I have not done, and whereunto I will not do any more the like, because of all thine abominations.


God was really really mad.

10 Therefore the fathers shall eat the sons in the midst of thee, and the sons shall eat their fathers; and I will execute judgments in thee, and the whole remnant of thee will I scatter into all the winds.

Cannibalism. Awesome.

13 Thus shall mine anger be accomplished, and I will cause my fury to rest upon them, and I will be comforted: and they shall know that I the LORD have spoken it in my zeal, when I have accomplished my fury in them.

At some point, God may start to grow his hair back. I wonder if God had any weird scars on top of his head?

Ezekiel 6

FYI, God is still angry.

2 Son of man, set thy face toward the mountains of Israel, and prophesy against them,

Now he's mad at the mountains.

3 And say, Ye mountains of Israel, hear the word of the Lord GOD; Thus saith the Lord GOD to the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys; Behold, I, even I, will bring a sword upon you, and I will destroy your high places.

Is God going to do some Mountaintop Removal Mining? Is there coal in Israel?

5 And I will lay the dead carcases of the children of Israel before their idols; and I will scatter your bones round about your altars.

Ok, remember, it's bad (unclean) for Jews to touch dead things. It's bad for people to be cannibals. I wonder if the bodies of the dead that were eaten because they were starving were prepared kosher.

7 And the slain shall fall in the midst of you, and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

I doubt the people will know that God is the LORD when most of them die. They don't seem to know ever that he is.

11 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Smite with thine hand, and stamp with thy foot, and say, Alas for all the evil abominations of the house of Israel! for they shall fall by the sword, by the famine, and by the pestilence.

God's going to kill them, but they brought it on themselves.

13 Then shall ye know that I am the LORD, when their slain men shall be among their idols round about their altars, upon every high hill, in all the tops of the mountains, and under every green tree, and under every thick oak, the place where they did offer sweet savour to all their idols.

They will get their just rewards for worshiping their idols.

So what have we learned today?

1. 390 days of siege, maybe.

2. 590 calorie diet, maybe.

3. We're all gonna die.

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Default Re: Day 243. Ezekiel 4-6 - 12-29-2009, 02:18 PM

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5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled
10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
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Default Re: Day 243. Ezekiel 4-6 - 01-08-2010, 11:35 PM

Thank ya Brother V! You are truly a man of God, and your teachings are spot on! Glory to the name of Jesus!
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Default Re: Day 243. Ezekiel 4-6 - 01-09-2010, 08:34 AM

Me: Wow, you will not believe this new book I've been reading! You: What's it about?
Me: It is a manual for living a better life. It is also a guide to creating a better society for ourselves and our children. It has changed my life!
You: That sounds like an important book. Who wrote it?
Me: The author is supposed to be the smartest person in the universe.
You: That's amazing -- if the author is the smartest person in the universe, the book must be absolutely brilliant. I can't wait to see it. Do you have a copy with you?
Me: Absolutely! I carry it with me everywhere I go! Here, have a look for yourself...
You open the book to a random page, and you find this:
  • Any of the people of Israel, or of the aliens who reside in Israel, who give any of their offspring to Molech shall be put to death; the people of the land shall stone them to death. I myself will set my face against them, and will cut them off from the people, because they have given of their offspring to Molech, defiling my sanctuary and profaning my holy name. And if the people of the land should ever close their eyes to them, when they give of their offspring to Molech, and do not put them to death, I myself will set my face against them and against their family, and will cut them off from among their people, them and all who follow them in prostituting themselves to Molech. If any turn to mediums and wizards, prostituting themselves to them, I will set my face against them, and will cut them off from the people. Consecrate yourselves therefore, and be holy; for I am the Lord your God. Keep my statutes, and observe them; I am the Lord; I sanctify you. All who curse father or mother shall be put to death; having cursed father or mother, their blood is upon them.
    If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbour, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall be put to death. The man who lies with his father’s wife has uncovered his father’s nakedness; both of them shall be put to death; their blood is upon them. If a man lies with his daughter-in-law, both of them shall be put to death; they have committed perversion; their blood is upon them. If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death; their blood is upon them. [Leviticus, chapter 20]
You are not quite sure what to say. You look at me for a moment.
  • You: I thought you said that this is written by the most intelligent person in the universe. If we are going to follow what this author says, we have to kill half the people in America. We are supposed to kill everyone who has cursed his father or mother, everyone who has committed adultery, and every homosexual. Me: Well, that's in the old testament, you see. The book is really two books, and the "old" part of the book doesn't really apply.
    You: Are you saying that the smartest person in the universe once wanted us to kill every adulterer and homosexual, but then changed his mind? That somehow makes it better? If the "old part" no longer applies, then why did you hand it to me when I asked to see the book?
    Me: Well, parts of it do apply.
    You: Didn't you just tell me that it doesn't apply?
You open the book to another random page and you find this:
  • When you buy a male Hebrew slave, he shall serve for six years, but in the seventh he shall go out a free person, without debt. If he comes in single, he shall go out single; if he comes in married, then his wife shall go out with him. If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the wife and her children shall be her master’s and he shall go out alone. But if the slave declares, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out a free person’, then his master shall bring him before God. He shall be brought to the door or the doorpost; and his master shall pierce his ear with an awl; and he shall serve him for life. When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do. If she does not please her master, who designated her for himself, then he shall let her be redeemed; he shall have no right to sell her to a foreign people, since he has dealt unfairly with her. If he designates her for his son, he shall deal with her as with a daughter. If he takes another wife to himself, he shall not diminish the food, clothing, or marital rights of the first wife. And if he does not do these three things for her, she shall go out without debt, without payment of money.
    Whoever strikes a person mortally shall be put to death. If it was not premeditated, but came about by an act of God, then I will appoint for you a place to which the killer may flee. But if someone wilfully attacks and kills another by treachery, you shall take the killer from my altar for execution.
    Whoever strikes father or mother shall be put to death.
    Whoever kidnaps a person, whether that person has been sold or is still held in possession, shall be put to death. Whoever curses father or mother shall be put to death.
    When individuals quarrel and one strikes the other with a stone or fist so that the injured party, though not dead, is confined to bed, but recovers and walks around outside with the help of a staff, then the assailant shall be free of liability, except to pay for the loss of time, and to arrange for full recovery.
    When a slave-owner strikes a male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies immediately, the owner shall be punished. But if the slave survives for a day or two, there is no punishment; for the slave is the owner’s property. [Exodus, chapter 21]
Again, you are dumfounded. Here the author of the book is advocating slavery, the branding of slaves, and the wholesale beating of slaves. You are not quite sure what to say. You look at me for a moment.
  • You: You have to be kidding me. Here the "smartest person in the universe" is telling us that slavery is OK and that we are free to beat our slaves.

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You open the book to another random page and you find this:
  • I desire, then, that in every place the men should pray, lifting up holy hands without anger or argument; also that the women should dress themselves modestly and decently in suitable clothing, not with their hair braided, or with gold, pearls, or expensive clothes, but with good works, as is proper for women who profess reverence for God. Let a woman learn in silence with full submission. I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she is to keep silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. Yet she will be saved through childbearing, provided they continue in faith and love and holiness, with modesty. [1 Timothy, chapter 2]
You are nearly speechless. But you manage to find your voice.
  • You: Is this some kind of joke? "I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over a man." That is totally sexist! In America, there are millions of female teachers and we have women throughout our corporate and govenment hierarchies. No intelligent person believes that women should be silenced.
As you page through the book further you find that it is totally sexist from beginning to end. You keep opening the book to random pages, and nearly everything you find is utter nonsense. Either it is meaningless, completely irrelevant, disgusting or downright wrong.
If you are a scientist it is even worse, and it starts with the very first line:
  • In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth...
That's not true. In the beginning a natural event created the universe as we know it, and the earth did not form until billions of years later. The creation story in Genesis is completely wrong. Simply read Genesis and you can see it. For example, the Bible says that light and darkness are created after the water but before the sun. Everyone knows that the sun came first, then the planet and its rotation (which is what causes light and darkness to occur on a daily basis) and then the water, and this all happened over million of years. There are many other problems with the Bible:
  • Man did not come from a handful of dust through some mythological being. Man evolved from other species like every other living thing has for hundreds of millions of years.
  • The Bible talks about a world-wide flood that covered earth in 5.5 miles of water and killed everything, yet we know it never happened. That is clear from the archeolgical record.
  • There was no tower of Babel where God confounded the languages of mankind.
The list goes on and on. The Bible is nonsense in a thousand different scientific ways. Ask yourself this simple question: Why, when you read the Bible, are you not left in awe? Why doesn't a book written by an omniscient being leave you with a sense of wonder and amazement? If you are reading a book written by the all-powerful, all-knowing, all-loving creator of the universe, wouldn't you expect to be stunned by the brilliance, the clarity and the wisdom of the author? Would you not expect each new page to intoxicate you with its incredible prose and its spectacular insight? Wouldn't you expect the author to tell us things that scientists have not been able to discover yet?
Yet, when we open the Bible and actually read it, we find it is nothing like that at all. Instead of leaving us in awe, it leaves us dumbfounded by all of the nonsense and backwardness that it contains. If you read what the Bible actually says, you find that the Bible is ridiculous. The examples shown above barely scratch the surface of the Bible's numerous problems. If we are honest with ourselves, it is obvious that an "all-knowing" God had absolutely nothing to do with this book.
The reason why the Bible contains so much nonsense is because God is imaginary. The Bible is a book written thousands of years ago by primitive men. A book that advocates senseless murder, slavery and the oppression of women has no place in our society today.
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Default Re: Day 243. Ezekiel 4-6 - 01-09-2010, 08:36 AM

I see nothing wrong with any of the Bible passages you quoted...
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Default Re: Day 243. Ezekiel 4-6 - 01-09-2010, 11:25 PM

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Dearest you.

Why aren't you discussing Ezekiel 4-6?

That's what this thread is for.

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Default Re: Day 243. Ezekiel 4-6 - 03-24-2010, 06:15 PM

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Blah Blah Blah
Is there some kind of problem? I don't get what you're trying to say, here.

Thank you very much, Brother V. Your commentary was both deeply uplifting and insightful.


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Default Re: Day 243. Ezekiel 4-6 - 03-28-2010, 10:59 PM

Thank you Brother V for your very enlightening interpretation
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