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  • Elmer G. White
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    Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

    Originally posted by Germanicus View Post
    I'm sorry to hear that .. But evertying evolves, why faith not?
    Thanks for your explanation


    NOTHING evolves. Since the Flood we've all been subjected to genetic entropy, degeneration of the genome. It has caused divergence from the created kinds or baramins into the multitude on extinction-bound creatures that we see now. The descendants of the dog kind are only feeble relicts of the original created dog that was in the ark with Noah. The dinosaurs are gone although the magnificent behemoth was still a common sight in the days of Job. The same has taken place with Faith. It is corrupted by the degeneration of the crystal clear obedience that was characteristic of the ancients and the followers of Jesus. Similar to the biological degradation, various interpretations have crumbled the pure Faith that led to Salvation. Instead of Trust, people are...

    1 Timothy 5:12
    Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith.

    You can still change all this. Jesus has invited us to join Him in the Heavenly banquet. Take it!



    He is AS WE SPEAK preparing a new Heaven and Earth and it is going to magnificent. Take it!



    Revelation 21:1
    And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.


    Yours in Christ,

    Elmer

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  • Germanicus
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    Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

    The law is something beautiful. People how makes the borders in which they must live in. What's wrong with that? But in the meantime you wants them to live with the person who violated their personal integrity...

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  • Germanicus
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    Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

    I'm sorry to hear that .. But evertying evolves, why faith not?
    Thanks for your explanation

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  • Elmer G. White
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    Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

    Originally posted by Germanicus View Post
    Is there no room for individual interpretatie then? There is no absolute truth. You're a woman! How can you say this !?
    And no, what centuries ago the standard was is not good enough anymore, my love...
    Of course there is room for individual interpretation. You have the freedom of speech. But there are consequences. The room for interpretation is in the Furnace between lava enemas that demons administer to sinners.

    Matthew 24:24
    For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.


    You ARE into fallacies. If you refer to my gender in a degoratory manner (woman) you are committing the fallacies of ad hominem and ad ridiculum (also with the 'my love'). Mr. Sinner. This will not work! I know that your mocking will be rewarded in Eternity.

    Matthew 5:12
    Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

    And to continue without evidence you appeal to modernity vs. history. An issue can be good and useful regardless of its age. It is the evidence that determines the quality. The evidence is in Scripture. It does not change. Why should it change according to the whimsical moods of the fallen mankind?


    Yours in Christ,

    Elmer

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  • Germanicus
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    Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

    Is there no room for individual interpretatie then? There is no absolute truth. You're a woman! How can you say this !?
    And no, what centuries ago the standard was is not good enough anymore, my love...

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  • Elmer G. White
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    Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

    Originally posted by Germanicus View Post
    I (and many with me) see the Bible not as absolute truth, but more as a guideline ...
    Are gays not creatures of God then?
    Now you're into fallacies, aren't you?! Ad populum, appeal to numbers! Lies of Satan remain lies of Satan even if billions of people repeat them! And another fallacy, appeal to false authority (there is only one real authority), your opinion as the authority and unknown authorities as additional evidence for your argument?

    Numbers prove nothing. We know only a few will gain access into Heaven:

    Matthew 7:14
    Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

    We would like to see actual evidence for your claims. Please. Gossip and assertions won't work. Nor will fallacies. I still choose Jesus!



    Yours in Christ,

    Elmer

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  • Elmer G. White
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    Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

    Originally posted by Germanicus View Post
    Thumbs up for civil law then ;-)
    Yes, it is heartbreaking, isn't it!? Secular law gives people easy satisfaction and security on Earth but betrays them when it comes to Eternal Life. While God has told us to follow the laws of our nation, these laws too often force people to act against God's will. This yields false comfort quickly but in the long run it only feeds the Furnace of Hell with more and more sinners.

    1 Thessalonians 5:15
    See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men.

    Look at this verse. It commands us to follow that which is good! What is good? Good is what God tells us to be good. Without Him we would have no way to do moral judgments. Our leaders have dismissed this to gain popularity during this sorry excuse of a life. The real life awaits in Heaven but disregarding Jesus corrupts this potential into repulsive acts of blasphemy, such as seeing evil in the righteous punisment of the rapist.

    Please, Jesus, come quickly!




    Yours in Christ,

    Elmer

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  • Germanicus
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    Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

    I (and many with me) see the Bible not as absolute truth, but more as a guideline ...
    Are gays not creatures of God then?

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  • Germanicus
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    Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

    Thumbs up for civil law then ;-)

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  • Didymus Much
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    Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

    Originally posted by Germanicus View Post
    The people that I refer to, are believers at heart, not by words...
    Then they believe in their own thoughts, not in God, and are worshipping something created in their own image. God promises a lot (eternal slavation) and has demands (complete obedience to His commandments). This is all plainly spelled out in every Bible, in every language.

    ...I honestly have no idea what translation you use...
    The King James Bible, but that makes no difference for these verses. The various translation may use some different words, but they all say the same thing. Here are links to 18 different English Bible versions of these verses:

    If a man encounters a virgin who is not pledged in marriage, and he seizes her and lies with her, and they are discovered,

    then the man who lay with her must pay the young woman's father fifty shekels of silver, and she must become his wife because he has violated her. He must not divorce her as long as he lives.

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  • Elmer G. White
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    Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

    Originally posted by Germanicus View Post
    The people that I refer to, are believers at heart, not by words. I honestly have no idea what translation you use. I'm not from this country ...


    Never ever trust the heart. It is deceitful. You can only trust the unchanging Word of God!

    Jeremiah 23:26
    How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets that prophesy lies? yea, they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart;

    Indeed, people confuse their revolting wishes and emotions with the Truth(tm)! This is one of the most significant obstacles to Salvation! Similar to you, these 'people' take us as something nasty although we only try to spread the message of God.

    Proverbs 12:20
    Deceit is in the heart of them that imagine evil: but to the counsellors of peace is joy.


    We use no 'translation'. KJV is the accurate transmission of God's Will upon men!


    Yours in Christ,

    Elmer

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  • Germanicus
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    Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

    The people that I refer to, are believers at heart, not by words. I honestly have no idea what translation you use. I'm not from this country ...

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  • Mary Etheldreda
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    Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

    Originally posted by Germanicus View Post
    There is nothing wrong that people who believe,
    Unless they believe the Bible means what It says, and says what It means?

    That doesn't make any sense, dear.



    Originally posted by Germanicus View Post
    but they can't seriously expect anyone going to marry someone who has raped her
    Why not? This practice was good enough for the ancient Israelites, it's good enough for us (Psalm 119:152; Isaiah 40:8; Matthew 24:35). God's Truth yesterday is His Truth today, and will be His Truth tomorrow.

    Originally posted by Germanicus View Post
    ... I know many true Christians who disagree this...
    I know someone who sits on the park bench and calls himself Mungo, King of the Pigeons. Claiming a title doesn't mean anything if there's follow up, dear.

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  • Dr Laurence Niles
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    Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

    Originally posted by Germanicus View Post
    Thanks for your comment. There is nothing wrong that people who believe, but they can't seriously expect anyone going to marry someone who has raped her ... I know many true Christians who disagree this...
    How can one be a Christian if one does not adhere to the very word of God?

    I have no personal problem with the gaywise (as long as they keep away from children) but the Bible very clearly says they should be killed.

    I might not be thrilled about this but as a Christian that is what I would call for and that is why I would vote GOP.

    YIC

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  • Didymus Much
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    Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

    Originally posted by Germanicus View Post
    Thanks for your comment. There is nothing wrong that people who believe, but they can't seriously expect anyone going to marry someone who has raped her ...
    They can't force her to, because the Bible says they also have to follow civil law, they're just pointing out that the Bible says she'll go to Hell if she doesn't (along with everyone who supports her decision not to marry her rapist).

    ... I know many true Christians who disagree this...
    Then they disagree with the message that God has left for us (the Bible), and are NOT Christians (as the Scripture I've already quoted shows), never mind what they call themselves.

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