[Seth Campbell]

Re: John 2:20 - How old was Jesus?

Thank you Pastor Rune Enoe! Your evidence is straight forward and convincing!



Random question: does anybody know how/when did this belief start?

Probably the catholics, they invented most of the unbiblical garbage that people believe.

age of innocence
infant baptism
purgatory
buying your way into heaven

Basically anything to get the money out of your wallet and to keep you from causing them too much trouble. They used to have a rule (or maybe they still do) that only priests should be able to read the Bible because only priests are "capable of understanding it"

So they'd all be up there telling us that God demands little boys strip down and grab their ankles, in church, five times per day.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: John 2:20 - How old was Jesus?

Thank you Pastor Rune Enoe! Your evidence is straight forward and convincing!



Random question: does anybody know how/when did this belief start?

Well first of all is the Catholic assumption that the current Calendar is based on Jesus birth. They know better than that. It was started by Ceaser and then edited a few times. There is no proof that Jesus was born December 25, 1 BC, but don't tell the fuzzy bunnies that.

According to Luke 3:23 Jesus was baptized when he was "about thirty years of age". Somehow people forget that "about" part, and demand that he was baptized on his 30th birthday or something like that.

It also seems that people take the quote that Pastor Enoe posted above to mean that Jesus visited the temple in the 46 year of its existence even though the next verse clearly states that Jesus was speaking about the Temple of his Body.


As you can see, this is the problem with fuzzy bunny Christians. You take a scripture here and a scripture there, glue the parts you like together, stand on one leg, and squint real hard and there, the Bible says exactly what you want it to say.

Don't feel bad though. I'm glad you brought this up. I was under the 33-year-od delusion. I'm embarrassed to admit that I had completely missed this post, or if it was ever mentioned in a sermon.

[Basilissa]

Re: John 2:20 - How old was Jesus?

Thank you Pastor Rune Enoe! Your evidence is straight forward and convincing!

I believe Jesus lived to age 33.

Random question: does anybody know how/when did this belief start?

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: John 2:20 - How old was Jesus?

We don't need to twist the Bible to fit history. We need to find possible historical scenarios that fit the Bible.

Amen, Brother Pendergast!

I make very certain my children know without a doubt the Holy Word of God, found in the King James Version Holy Bible, is Never Wrong! It does NOT need to be re-interpreted to fit modern day so-called scientific discovery. If some discovery conflicts with the Holy Bible, the discovery is mistaken, NOT the Bible!

A few children take longer to learn this important fact, but each Etheldreda Child does know it now, even if those lessons were painful at the time. I always remind them that while they're on my watch, they will NOT be subjected to the Lies of Satan.

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: John 2:20 - How old was Jesus?

Historically Jesus could not have been as old as 46 at the time of His crucifixion.

The taxing that Luke 2:1-2 mentions most probably took place in 7 BC.

Pilate was prefect of Judaea between 26 AD and 37 AD.

Hence Jesus must have been between the age of 33 and 44 when He was crucified.

Holyfield, we know that Jesus was born during the reigns of Herod the Great (37-4 BC) and Caesar Augustus (27 BC-14 AD). The only pieces of the puzzle that may not seem to fit are the timing of the census and Cyrenius' governorship. Josephus suggests that the census took place as late as 6 or 7 AD. But as Christians, if there appears to be a discrepancy between Scripture and secular history and archaeology, we look for answers that confirm the Word of God. There are many theories out there. I did some googling. Some say that Cyrenius served two terms as governor of Syria and that his first term was earlier than Josephus stated. Or that there was more than one census during Caesar Augustus' reign. Or that many years elapsed between the issuing of the decree and Cyrenius' ascension to office and the completion of the census. These sites generally support a relatively late date for the birth of Jesus (by ignoring John's account!), but it goes to show that there are many plausible alternatives. I know I would rather trust the Bible over some old book written by Josephus decades after the events actually occurred. The internal evidence of the Bible suggests Jesus was 46 when He cleansed the Temple. We don't need to twist the Bible to fit history. We need to find possible historical scenarios that fit the Bible.

[Holyfield]

Re: John 2:20 - How old was Jesus?

Historically Jesus could not have been as old as 46 at the time of His crucifixion.

The taxing that Luke 2:1-2 mentions most probably took place in 7 BC.

Pilate was prefect of Judaea between 26 AD and 37 AD.

Hence Jesus must have been between the age of 33 and 44 when He was crucified.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: John 2:20 - How old was Jesus?

I believe Jesus lived to age 33.

Where does it say so in the Holy Bible?

[xcalibur1]

Re: John 2:20 - How old was Jesus?

I believe Jesus lived to age 33.

[Rev. Edward Clement]

Re: John 2:20 - How old was Jesus?

Unsurprising though, seeing as 46 is approximately 40 years beyond the age of consent for altar boys; it would seem the Vatican's sexual deviance has polluted the truth regarding Jesus's true age.

My Christ is not an angsty, whimpering whippersnapper!

Amen! Them Catlickers pervert everything they touch!

[unclejeb]

Re: John 2:20 - How old was Jesus?

I believe the mighty Baby Jesus is ageless!
He lives on. In all our hearts!
Praise!

YIC

Brother Jeb

[Mrs. Rogers]

Re: John 2:20 - How old was Jesus?

It is written (John 2:22) that when "he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said" about the 3-days resurrection, but everybody conveniently forgot about the 46 years - including the kiddie-diddlers in the Vatican.

Unsurprising though, seeing as 46 is approximately 40 years beyond the age of consent for altar boys; it would seem the Vatican's sexual deviance has polluted the truth regarding Jesus's true age.

My Christ is not an angsty, whimpering whippersnapper!

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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I have two questions regarding this post and an reply that was posted. Please forgive my ignorance if I am wrong in asking these questions.

I always bvelieved that Jesus began his ministry at 30 based upon Luke 3:23. The literal translation from the Greek seems to support this. I also believed that the many instances of people's "amazement" and the teaching and authority of Jesus, wa not only due to His awesome teaching but the fact that he was from Nazereth (can anything good come from here?) and that he was "young" in constrast of the Rabbis and religious leaders of that day. The last fact why I beleived He was 30 is that the assumption that a man could not have the intellect, wisdom, or ability to teach would seem to go by the wayside when one examines Luke 2:41-51. At the age of 12 He was teaching i the temple. NO NORMAL MAN could do this, but we knw that Christ was 100% man and 100% God at the same time. So surely the man who could heal the sick, cause th blind to see and raise the dead could teach with authority about His Father and the gospel AT ANY AGE.

My second question concerns a reply from a Pastor. I love and have memorized from the KJV my entire life. I am wondering how that the KJV translation of the scripture can be called "holy." The Word of God itself is Holy, but does stating that the KJV is holy mean that those who were involved in the traslation process were equally inspired by the Holy Spirit as the orignal human authors? Does this also mean that, for example, the ESV version (which upon my examination in all three langues is a VERY accurate translation of the original manuscripts) is not "Holy."

I am confused abot these two matters and would like some help. Thank you!

I'd like to answer your second question first. Please refer to my sermons HERE and HERE.

[Carpe Diem Jim]

Re: John 2:20 - How old was Jesus?

I have two questions regarding this post and an reply that was posted. Please forgive my ignorance if I am wrong in asking these questions.

I always bvelieved that Jesus began his ministry at 30 based upon Luke 3:23. The literal translation from the Greek seems to support this. I also believed that the many instances of people's "amazement" and the teaching and authority of Jesus, wa not only due to His awesome teaching but the fact that he was from Nazereth (can anything good come from here?) and that he was "young" in constrast of the Rabbis and religious leaders of that day. The last fact why I beleived He was 30 is that the assumption that a man could not have the intellect, wisdom, or ability to teach would seem to go by the wayside when one examines Luke 2:41-51. At the age of 12 He was teaching i the temple. NO NORMAL MAN could do this, but we knw that Christ was 100% man and 100% God at the same time. So surely the man who could heal the sick, cause th blind to see and raise the dead could teach with authority about His Father and the gospel AT ANY AGE.

My second question concerns a reply from a Pastor. I love and have memorized from the KJV my entire life. I am wondering how that the KJV translation of the scripture can be called "holy." The Word of God itself is Holy, but does stating that the KJV is holy mean that those who were involved in the traslation process were equally inspired by the Holy Spirit as the orignal human authors? Does this also mean that, for example, the ESV version (which upon my examination in all three langues is a VERY accurate translation of the original manuscripts) is not "Holy."

I am confused abot these two matters and would like some help. Thank you!

[Ahimaaz Smith]

Re: John 2:20 - How old was Jesus?

Thank you, Pastor Danish. I must have been sick the day we covered Irenaeus in Professor Gooden's History of the Baptist Church at Landover Christian University. You don't see this kind of simple and direct writing these days:

I have shown that the number thirty fails them in every respect; too few Æons, as they represent them, being at one time found within the Pleroma, and then again too many [to correspond with that number]. There are not, therefore, thirty Æons, nor did the Saviour come to be baptized when He was thirty years old, for this reason, that He might show forth the thirty silent Æons of their system, otherwise they must first of all separate and eject [the Saviour] Himself from the Pleroma of all. Moreover, they affirm that He suffered in the twelfth month, so that He continued to preach for one year after His baptism; and they endeavour to establish this point out of the prophet (for it is written, “To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord, and the day of retribution,” being truly blind, inasmuch as they affirm they have found out the mysteries of Bythus, yet not understanding that which is called by Isaiah the acceptable year of the Lord, nor the day of retribution. For the prophet neither speaks concerning a day which includes the space of twelve hours, nor of a year the length of which is twelve months. For even they themselves acknowledge that the prophets have very often expressed themselves in parables and allegories, and [are] not [to be understood] according to the mere sound of the words.

That truly clarifies this important point of Church doctrine.

[Pastor Rune Enoe]

Re: John 2:20 - How old was Jesus?

So, let's believe Jesus when he tells us he entered the priesthood -- i.e., began his ministry -- at age 46. That ministry lasted 3.5 years, which means that Jesus was age 49 or 50 at the time of his grisly crucifixion, which agrees with Irenæus' account.

Not only did Jesus say he was 46, but the Jews also admitted that He was a man in His 40'ies - i.e. close to 50:

John 8:57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?

I'll let Irenæus expound on this verse (taken from the same link):

Against Heresies 2,22,6: But, besides this, those very Jews who then disputed with the Lord Jesus Christ have most clearly indicated the same thing. For when the Lord said to them, “Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day; and he saw it, and was glad,” they answered Him, “Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast Thou seen Abraham?” Now, such language is fittingly applied to one who has already passed the age of forty, without having as yet reached his fiftieth year, yet is not far from this latter period. But to one who is only thirty years old it would unquestionably be said, “Thou art not yet forty years old.” For those who wished to convict Him of falsehood would certainly not extend the number of His years far beyond the age which they saw He had attained; but they mentioned a period near His real age, whether they had truly ascertained this out of the entry in the public register, or simply made a conjecture from what they observed that He was above forty years old, and that He certainly was not one of only thirty years of age. For it is altogether unreasonable to suppose that they were mistaken by twenty years, when they wished to prove Him younger than the times of Abraham. For what they saw, that they also expressed; and He whom they beheld was not a mere phantasm, but an actual being of flesh and blood. He did not then want much of being fifty years old; and, in accordance with that fact, they said to Him, “Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast Thou seen Abraham?” […]