[PartyPoison]

Re: Women

??????????????? Wow... I thought women were supposed to HELP their husbands stand stong? I'm sure you believe beating your wife is acceptable too? Right?

[Lycia The Repentant]

Re: Women

??????????????? Wow... I thought women were supposed to HELP their husbands stand stong?

Of course they are, why do you think we think otherwise?

"And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him." Genesis 2:18

I'm sure you believe beating your wife is acceptable too? Right?

Of course a True Christian™ man beating his wife is acceptable. If she had been acting in a way that didn't need correction, he wouldn't need to beat her, get it?

"Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;" 1 Peter 3:1

"Whoso loveth instruction loveth knowledge: but he that hateth reproof is brutish." Proverbs 12:1

"Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby." Hebrews 12:11

"The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil: so do stripes the inward parts of the belly." Proverbs 20:30

"The LORD hath chastened me sore: but he hath not given me over unto death." Psalm 118:18

Of course, this does raise an interesting theological question. Its natural to enjoy having somebody care enough for you to physically correct you, but something seems sinful about enjoying something too much. So is it possible for a woman to enjoy her beatings too much?

[PartyPoison]

Re: Women

Of course they are, why do you think we think otherwise?

"And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him." Genesis 2:18

Of course a True Christian™ man beating his wife is acceptable. If she had been acting in a way that didn't need correction, he wouldn't need to beat her, get it?

"Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;" 1 Peter 3:1

"Whoso loveth instruction loveth knowledge: but he that hateth reproof is brutish." Proverbs 12:1

"Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby." Hebrews 12:11

"The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil: so do stripes the inward parts of the belly." Proverbs 20:30

"The LORD hath chastened me sore: but he hath not given me over unto death." Psalm 118:18

Of course, this does raise an interesting theological question. Its natural to enjoy having somebody care enough for you to physically correct you, but something seems sinful about enjoying something too much. So is it possible for a woman to enjoy her beatings too much?

*Sigh*... I would never in a million years think of beating my beautiful Lyndsey. And when my most precious daughter grows up, i pray she doesnt marry a "true" christian man... And are you absolutely sure that those verses hold meaning to the women alone? I mean come on? If god was truly a loving god, then he wouldnt let men beat women. For years i've been taught to respect women. When a women is acting out of line, you should talk to her, be kind, not violent. Thats like... cruel and unusual...Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

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Deu 24:5 When a man hath taken a new wife, he shall not go out to war, neither shall he be charged with any business: [but] he shall be free at home one year, and shall cheer up his wife which he hath taken.

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Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

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Eph 5:28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.

Yes a husband has dominion over his wife, but it is supposed to be a respectful and protective dominion, not a fearful domination.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Women

Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

I always wondered how that worked out with polygamy in the Bible. Think of all those old kings of Israel who had multiple wives and concubines.

Deu 24:5 When a man hath taken a new wife, he shall not go out to war, neither shall he be charged with any business: [but] he shall be free at home one year, and shall cheer up his wife which he hath taken.

That's nice. I also like how God instructs men to treat the women they have taken as spoils of war.

Deuteronomy 21:10-14 When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the LORD thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive, And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;

Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;
And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife.

And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go whither she will; but thou shalt not sell her at all for money, thou shalt not make merchandise of her, because thou hast humbled her.

Notice the man isn't allowed to take her for 30 days. Could that be to make sure she isn't already pregnant?

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Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

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Eph 5:28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.

I notice you left out a few verses from Ephesians 5, cherrypicker.

22Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
25Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

[Lycia The Repentant]

Re: Women

*Sigh*... I would never in a million years think of beating my beautiful Lyndsey. And when my most precious daughter grows up, i pray she doesnt marry a "true" christian man... And are you absolutely sure that those verses hold meaning to the women alone? I mean come on?

You don't want your daughter to go to Heaven!?

And, with the exception of 1 Peter 3:1, you're right that those verses don't only apply to women. They apply equally to all people needing physical correction for their mistakes, be they wives, sons, daughters or even just heathens.

If god was truly a loving god, then he wouldnt let men beat women.

Of course God is a loving God, but there is a huge difference between the kind of tough love He employs and your fluffy bunny definition of love. He doesn't want people to choose to get sent to the fiery pits of Hell, and sometimes that means doing some pretty extreme things. Just take a look at some of these examples:

"Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you." Deuteronomy 22:21

God loves us enough to command us to make examples of fornicating harlots by stoning them.

"And it shall come to pass, that when any shall yet prophesy, then his father and his mother that begat him shall say unto him, Thou shalt not live; for thou speakest lies in the name of the LORD: and his father and his mother that begat him shall thrust him through when he prophesieth." Zechariah 13:3

God loves us enough to command us to make examples of false prophets by running them through (presumably with a sword or other sharp instrument).

"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." Exodus 22:18

God loves us enough to command us to make examples of witches by killing them.

"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." Leviticus 20:13

God loves us enough to command us to make examples of homosexuals by putting them to death.

"And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." Revelation 20:14-15

Finally, God loves us enough to infinitely punish sinners for their finite sins simply because He doesn't want them to sin. Honestly, I don't understand why people just can't seem to understand that God doesn't want us to do certain things, He really makes it crystal-clear.

For years i've been taught to respect women. When a women is acting out of line, you should talk to her, be kind, not violent. Thats like... cruel and unusual...

Do you have scripture supporting this statement?

Anyways, you also seem to have assumed that loving and beating your wife are two mutually exclusive things. On the contrary, we should revere the people who beat us, much in the same way we revere the Lord (although by necessity let me point out we should be revering God more).

"Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?" Hebrews 12:9

[PartyPoison]

Re: Women

I do want my little Bandit to go to heaven. Just not your perverse version.
And I do have a scripture to go along with that.
"Honor thy father and mother."
My Mama and dad taught me to respect women.
And in honor to them. I do.
xoxo
g

[Widows Son]

Re: Women

Men are simple beings. All they need is great food, great sex and respect.

What about sport on TV?

[PartyPoison]

Re: Women

Ohhh yeah.... I want to thank Lycia for being the first remotely kind and understanding person I have met on here. :/ and I would also like to ask why would a man ever dream of bruising a thing on his beautiful other half. Marriage is the most sacred ceremony ever, it seems as if you all are taking it for granted. just my humble opinion. I know you won't believe me, but that's the way I see it.
Xo
G

[TheFeminazi]

Re: Women

Are you serious? My god, I'm younger than most of you and I have more of a sence of justice and equality. Women aren't to be treated as lap-dogs for men! We are no one's 'property', and by the way some of you are going on, you have obviously never loved a women in your lives. The more I read through this website the more I fear for humanity... the words that 'The Lord' say seem to be more along the lines of an in-just dictatorship. Oh, by the way, I'm also Bisexual. Sorry Christians. <3

[TheFeminazi]

Re: Women

I was upset today cause the woman in the house refused to finish cleaning the dishes from the mediocre eggsalad she made. I let her know the error of her blasphemous ways

I am sorry husband, I shall get back to it straight away :'( Boo hoo hoo... I'm such a bad wife, having thoughts for myself. I should go die.

[James Dewitt]

Re: Women

Are you serious? My god, I'm younger than most of you and I have more of a sence of justice and equality. Women aren't to be treated as lap-dogs for men! We are no one's 'property', and by the way some of you are going on, you have obviously never loved a women in your lives. The more I read through this website the more I fear for humanity... the words that 'The Lord' say seem to be more along the lines of an in-just dictatorship. Oh, by the way, I'm also Bisexual. Sorry Christians. <3

It seems that God disagrees with you.
Genesis 3:16

Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.



Why are you a Bisexural? God would like it so very much if you give up that deathstyle. You need a Godly Christian man in your life, so that you can birth babies for Jesus.

[cazoofool]

Re: Women

It seems that God disagrees with you.
Genesis 3:16

Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.



Why are you a Bisexural? God would like it so very much if you give up that deathstyle. You need a Godly Christian man in your life, so that you can birth babies for Jesus.

So the basic view point is that women are pretty much socially acceptable slaves? Darn it I'm really finding it hard to find a woman who's willing to give away her free-speech so she can be my maid and spawn my children... I'm surprised any of you have wives or girlfriends at all really.

[Adilene]

Re: Women

So the basic view point is that women are pretty much socially acceptable slaves? Darn it I'm really finding it hard to find a woman who's willing to give away her free-speech so she can be my maid and spawn my children... I'm surprised any of you have wives or girlfriends at all really.

It's true, but I wouldn't think of myself as my husband's maid. I think of myself more of the person raising the children, keeping the house clean, the food cooked and on the table, and the laundry done. A woman's job is never done, but it's the man who puts the food on the table, and pays the bills.

[Brother Harold Porter]

Re: Women

So the basic view point is that women are pretty much socially acceptable slaves? Darn it I'm really finding it hard to find a woman who's willing to give away her free-speech so she can be my maid and spawn my children... I'm surprised any of you have wives or girlfriends at all really.

No, the "basic view point" is that the woman must serve the man as God commands.

Ephesians 5:22 "Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord."

23 "For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body."

24 "Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing."

If you disagree, take it up with God and good luck to you.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Women

Ohhh yeah.... I want to thank Lycia for being the first remotely kind and understanding person I have met on here. :/ and I would also like to ask why would a man ever dream of bruising a thing on his beautiful other half.

What on earth is this filth? Friend, I can't even begin to imagine what you'd have to be doing to your wife before you bruised your "thing" on her. That's disgusting!

Are you serious? My god, I'm younger than most of you and I have more of a sence of justice and equality.

Well, hopefully you'll grow out of this phase you're going through.

Oh, by the way, I'm also Bisexual.

If you're too confused to remember the difference between men and women, no wonder you want to treat everyone the same.

So the basic view point is that women are pretty much socially acceptable slaves? Darn it I'm really finding it hard to find a woman who's willing to give away her free-speech so she can be my maid and spawn my children...

The Lord gave us Christians a hard road to travel, it's true.