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  • Ezekiel Bathfire
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    Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

    Originally posted by Diesel Stanford View Post
    What the Bible doesn't say either?
    Well, the statement that dispensationalism was unbiblical and cult of Darby, Scofield or Ruckman. But the truth is, Ephesians 3:2 says the opposite:
    If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-way

    Very good - How, in your opinion, does this manifest itself as an aberration in everyday life?

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  • Didymus Much
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    Originally posted by Diesel Stanford View Post
    What the Bible doesn't say either?...
    Just because Paul uses a vaguely similar word in a completely different context does not mean anyone endorses that.

    The True Christians™ put a lot of time (seriously, a lot of time; check the thread dates, lazy ***es slacked off for like eight years mid-stream) and effort (ok, not so much proof there) into assembling the Bible in a Year forum covering the entirety of the KJV through a True Christian™ lens. It's an invaluable resource. And the Ephesians 3 section of that forum has... nothing ...on dispensationalism.

    That being said, there is support for it elsewhere in the Bible, so it is accepted by most denominations (I don't recall seeing it being discussed here either way). Let's see if you can find it, and an appropriate thread the discuss the matter (because it's a really meaningless issue unless you already accept almost all of the rest of mainstream Christian theology, and has historically only been used to provide "heretics" to prosecute for political purposes).

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  • Diesel Stanford
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    What the Bible doesn't say either?

    Well, the statement that dispensationalism was unbiblical and cult of Darby, Scofield or Ruckman. But the truth is, Ephesians 3:2 says the opposite:
    If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-way


    Adam and Eve clearly were in a different dispensation as us. They could do what they want except eat from one tree - which doesn't apply to us.

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  • Didymus Much
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    Originally posted by uncool dude View Post
    Can u help me understand Psalm 82:1It has really confused me.
    It's covered here. Search function is your friend.

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  • uncool dude
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    Originally posted by Ezekiel Bathfire View Post
    How could it possibly confuse you? Is not God's Word like silver has been refined seven times? (Psalms:12:6: The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.)

    I don't really know much about you and I can't be bothered reading thing written in "text-speak", so if you are beset by demons of unintelligence, please reply with an "X".

    Anyway, this thread is entitled "Things that the Bible doesn't say" not "Things that the Bible does say"
    I apologise. I was only seeking assistance, so that someone many help me understand Psalm 82:1

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  • Ezekiel Bathfire
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    Originally posted by uncool dude View Post
    Can u help me understand Psalm 82:1It has really confused me.
    How could it possibly confuse you? Is not God's Word like silver has been refined seven times? (Psalms:12:6: The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.)

    I don't really know much about you and I can't be bothered reading thing written in "text-speak", so if you are beset by demons of unintelligence, please reply with an "X".

    Anyway, this thread is entitled "Things that the Bible doesn't say" not "Things that the Bible does say"

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  • uncool dude
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    Can u help me understand Psalm 82:1It has really confused me.

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  • Basilissa
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    Originally posted by Pastor Isaac Peters View Post
    The life of Jesus tells you everything you need to know about being a Christian.

    Liberal false Christians are spreading nonsense like this on social media to make Christianity look politically correct:


    That would have been news to Jesus Himself (the real one, not the one who lives only in the imaginations of cafeteria Christians):

    Matthew 4:4 KJV: 4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

    If everything in the Bible but Christ's earthly ministry were just filler and pull quotes, why would He have said that, and why would the rest of the Bible have been revealed at all?
    Good points, Pastor. If I may also add, that if we sticked to living like Jesus did then we'd have all have to move to an Amish area and spend the rest of our lives roaming the land on foot (only occasionally riding an ass), in celibate - because this is how Jesus lived. If that were what Jesus wanted for all of us, then Christianity as a religion would have ended within one generation - just look at the Shakers.

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  • Pastor Isaac Peters
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    The life of Jesus tells you everything you need to know about being a Christian.

    Liberal false Christians are spreading nonsense like this on social media to make Christianity look politically correct:


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    That would have been news to Jesus Himself (the real one, not the one who lives only in the imaginations of cafeteria Christians):

    Matthew 4:4 KJV: 4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

    If everything in the Bible but Christ's earthly ministry were just filler and pull quotes, why would He have said that, and why would the rest of the Bible have been revealed at all?

    There's also the minor issue that "killing" and "murder" are not synonymous.

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  • MitzaLizalor
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    Originally posted by Marko Loimaan-Aho View Post
    Actually, sister Mary - there is something even worse in that sentence.
    It is not in the Bible - it is in the mooslim book!!!
    Because that book is from satan, i don't write here where it can be found there.
    And some people who think they are Christians use this!

    REPENT, SINNERS!!!
    The passage you're referring to comes at the end of an excessively verbose 286 verse rant and the context is particularly significant. Worshipping the created—as they do in the form of a moon idol—rather than the creator, God has abandoned these wretches to unreason:
    ISAIAH 1:18-20a Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool. If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land: But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword:
    ROMANS 1:22-23a Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image KJV

    EVIDENCE
    According to Mohammed, and notice the contrast here, souls are tasked according to their deserts. It's necessary to grovel in the hope of being pardoned and there is a blatant attempt to obligate the Creator so that victory against "disbelieving folk" [us] may be achieved. It is also clear that souls in the past were taxed beyond what they could bear, beyond—if the first part of this verse is anything to go by—their just deserts. This presupposition of injustice demonstrates unreason on the part of the author and anyone who believes what he declaimed.
    KORAN 2:286 al-Baqarah: The Cow Allah tasketh not a soul beyond its scope. For it is only that which it hath earned, and against it only that which it hath deserved. Our Lord! Condemn us not if we forget, or miss the mark! Our Lord! Lay not on us such a burden as thou didst lay on those before us! Our Lord! Impose not on us that which we have not the strength to bear! Pardon us, absolve us and have mercy on us, Thou, our Protector, and give us victory over the disbelieving folk. Pickthall

    By what expedient that victory might be attained requires no imagination where barbaric sensitivities are concerned. Anyone rejecting barbarism, its butchery and injustices and vile subjugations, would also reject its literature. They would cease to be muslims.
    I CORINTHIANS 10:13-14 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it. Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry. KJV

    Koran references to idolators are negative in the extreme. When I see a image of the moon, as it seems to me, that contravenes Moses' Law about making images regardless of whether anyone bows down to the thing. Muslims will say either that the crescent they use is not an idol or that it is not an image of the moon. In which case the question needs to be asked: If it is not an image of the moon, what is it? For over a thousand years the Roman (and other orthodox) branches of Christendom venerated statues also claiming that they weren't idols. Wherever those false and superstitious beliefs were abandoned many benefits followed. There is no "magic" in a statue whether of Mary or of Jesus or of the Sun or Moon and men who claim to speak on their behalf are doing no such thing. By actually reading the source material it becomes easier to see The Truth of their lies.

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  • Marko Loimaan-Aho
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    Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda View Post
    God will not give you more than you can handle
    This is often assumed to include everyone. There is nothing even remotely Biblical about that idea. Think about it, how would being tossed into a Lake of Never Ending Fire be punishment if a person could handle it? That’s like tossing a sinner into a Lake of Never Ending Marshmallows. The sticky sweetness may give you an uncomfortable stomach, but you could handle it. Where’s the punishment in that? Where’s the Justice in a punishment that doesn’t inflict any kind of penalty for the offense?

    Could the population of the earth handle the unrelenting rainfall when Noah and his family were safe on the Ark? How could they have? God gave the rains to them and they all died.

    In reality, the Holy Bible says God is faithful and will not allow True Christians™ to be tempted beyond what we are able to handle, for surely God will make it easy for us (1 Corinthians 10:13). Paul is talking to the Saved here, obviously. God is faithful to True Christians™ because we meet His Divine and Perfect conditions for love and mercy (John 14:15; 23). In turn, we are not tempted beyond what we are able, as the LORD conveniently created True Christians™ to be impervious to the temptations of Satan (1st John 3:6-9; 5:18).






    God gave sinners more rain than they could handle.
    Actually, sister Mary - there is something even worse in that sentence.
    It is not in the Bible - it is in the mooslim book!!!
    Because that book is from satan, i don't write here where it can be found there.
    And some people who think they are Christians use this!

    REPENT, SINNERS!!!

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  • handmaiden
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    "God helps those who help themselves."

    That's not actually in the Bible . . . is it? It seems too practical and worldly, really. But I would welcome instruction from any of the Brothers, who, of course, know more than me.

    Inqueriously yours,

    Handmaiden

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  • Pastor Isaac Peters
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    To be a Christian, it's enough to follow your conscience.

    Actually, the Bible says the opposite:

    [Jeremiah 17:9 KJV] 9 The heart [is] deceitful above all [things], and desperately wicked: who can know it?

    Boy-raping Catholic priests follow their consciences.

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  • Mary Etheldreda
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    God will not give you more than you can handle
    This is often assumed to include everyone. There is nothing even remotely Biblical about that idea. Think about it, how would being tossed into a Lake of Never Ending Fire be punishment if a person could handle it? That’s like tossing a sinner into a Lake of Never Ending Marshmallows. The sticky sweetness may give you an uncomfortable stomach, but you could handle it. Where’s the punishment in that? Where’s the Justice in a punishment that doesn’t inflict any kind of penalty for the offense?

    Could the population of the earth handle the unrelenting rainfall when Noah and his family were safe on the Ark? How could they have? God gave the rains to them and they all died.

    In reality, the Holy Bible says God is faithful and will not allow True Christians™ to be tempted beyond what we are able to handle, for surely God will make it easy for us (1 Corinthians 10:13). Paul is talking to the Saved here, obviously. God is faithful to True Christians™ because we meet His Divine and Perfect conditions for love and mercy (John 14:15; 23). In turn, we are not tempted beyond what we are able, as the LORD conveniently created True Christians™ to be impervious to the temptations of Satan (1st John 3:6-9; 5:18).






    God gave sinners more rain than they could handle.


    Moderation in all things
    This phrase comes from “Aristotle's Doctrine of the Mean,” an unbiblical, homosexual perspective from an unsaved homosexual. The idea is that every virtue of character lies between two extreme faults or vices, consisting of excess and deficiency. The virtuous road, according to Aristotle, is to be found in moderation.

    I don’t know about you, but I will not stand at the Judgement Seat (2 Corinthians 5:10) and explain why I failed to love the LORD my God with *all* my heart, mind, and soul as commanded (Deuteronomy 6:5), but did so with a moderate heart only. I will not stand there and explain why I judged my neighbor, not as commissioned (Leviticus 19:15 ), but only with moderate righteousness (John 7:24).

    In reality, the Holy Bible says everyone who competes in sports goes into strict training. They do it to get a prize that will not last, but we will (1 Corinthians 9:25) . Read in context, it means True Christians(™) will be awarded an imperishable prize - immortality and absolute rule (1 Corinthians 15:42-44; Revelation 5:10). So make your faith count. Do it all the way or don’t bother at all (Revelation 3:16).


    To thine ownself be true
    This comes not from the Bible, but from Shakespeare’s Hamlet. Polonius's last piece of advice to his son Laertes, who is in a hurry to get on the next boat to Paris, this phrase is as anti-Biblical as any.
    By Polonius’ reckoning, to be false to the self is to pursue those things that don’t serve one’s own best interests. Polonius warned his son against such habits as borrowing or loaning money, carousing with women of dubious character, and other sinful pursuits. By being true one’s self, he means to pursue those things that serve not only one’s own best interests, but conforms to the identity one desires to be his own. If one desires be identified as honest, for example, he won’t don’t do dishonest things, no matter how he might rationalize them at the time. Of course Polonius was as deviant as they come, no small surprise from a Roman cultist, and was really trying to make sure his son didn’t embarrass him on his trip.

    In reality, the Holy Bible says to ignore what your heart desires, for it is deceitful and unreliable (Jeremiah 17:9; ). Instead, put your trust in the LORD (Proverbs 3:5) by putting your trust in His Word. Read it, believe it, trust it, do it. All of it. Without reservation. Without condition.


    All men are created equal
    This one may be confusing, as the phrase comes from the Constitution of the United States of America, inspired by Moses and the Holy Ghost, but it’s a human document nonetheless, and therefore not impervious to Satan’s lies. This equality idea is, when one thinks about it seriously for even a moment, as dangerous a proposition as it is false.

    In reality, the Holy Bible says only two humans were created, and one was created to be subordinate to the other (Genesis 2:18). All others were born, in sin (Psalm 51:5), and continue living slaves to sin unless one becomes a willing slave to Christ (Romans 6:16). This is the genesis of mankind, a fundamental truth about humanity - we are born neither equal nor free. We are born for one purpose, and that is to glorify God (Isaiah 43:7). Furthermore, God Almighty Himself will decide how to use His creation to HIs Glory. One scripture that reflects this idea so eloquently is the imagery of God as the potter to our clay vessels, Romans 9:20-23. Anyone who rejects being God’s special tool, who demands equality, defies the LORD’s sovereignty. He willingly serves Satan.


    All good things come to those who wait
    That’s silly, and it’s nowhere to be found in the Bible. All humanity waited for the rains to stop when the LORD flooded the earth. Nothing good came to them (Genesis 6:17). The Jews waited in the desert after Moses led them out of Egypt. Every last one of them who offended the LORD in Egypt died in the desert, waiting (Joshua 5:6). Elijah waited in the desert, feeling sorry for himself, and for his reward, he got to eat food the birds vomited at his feet (1 Kings 17:4). No, good things come to those who love Jesus (Luke 6:38 ).

    In reality, the Holy Bible says God turns His countenance upon those who first love Him and show due gratitude (John 14:21). God rewards those who put their faith in Him (Joshua 1:8; 2 Corinthians 9:6; Psalm 1:1-3)

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  • MitzaLizalor
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    Originally posted by Pastor Isaac Peters View Post
    The devil is in charge of tormenting the damned in hell.

    It isn't the devil, especially since the devil will be tormented along with them
    I have often wondered about this. Satan presumably THINKS he will Madam Zzaj in bondage drag with a red hot poker and minions busy sharpening the chains.

    But he will himself be on the receiving end. Could it be that his particular form of torment is to torture everyone, more or less as envisaged, but to not enjoy it? I mean to really really really not enjoy it, for each day to be more horrific than the one before and for him to be obliged to continue with the red hot pokers or what ever he uses forever and ever and ever?

    Any Pastoral guidance appreciated.

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