[stv2kplus4]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

Go chew your blubber. You are not my brother.

"Jesus did, however, change the dietary laws."
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we have a break through already, and we haven't even begun.
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ezekial you cant 'cherry pick' scripture, wether it is for or against.
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do you agree that the dietary laws are changed,? also how about the ritual hand washing laws? or being being in the company of the 'unrighteuous' is that a law? the pharisee's must have picked that up somewhere?....
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so now the ball is in your court.
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do you disregard the teachings on railing? do you not know we are all sinners?
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does this apply to you?

But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
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And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brothers is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
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does that apply to you?, or this?
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For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God
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i show these verses to try to get you to look inside yourself, and take the focus off of me.

you likely wont answer these questions,

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so i will ask, since it has been determined that Jesus did change some old way (ie moses dietary laws)....so now its on you, can you show me another way that Jesus changed the an old way.....can you come up with another? how about two?
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your brother in Christ

[stv2kplus4]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

You are either a True Christian™ or you aren’t a Christian at all. Lu:6:26: Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.
2Pe:2:1: But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.I rebuke you! Those who sin against me, I forgive, those who sin against God sin against His Law and are subject to punishment and rebuke. M't:3:7: But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
M't:12:34: O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
M't:23:33: Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?Your heart is irrelevant, I’m thinking of your brain that is infested with demons of liberalism. And if you mean ‘soul’, only God can look into that and if you think I’m God, you are deluded. Partially, Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Jesus did, however, change the dietary laws.

you dont understand something, he taught not to be called Rabbi, but his disciples called him Rabbi, whats good for him, is good for him, thats fine, and what he commands his disciples is what he commands his disciples, its not for us to decide. you put a lot of words in my mouth.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

Of course it belongs here in the "things the bible doesnt say"..section
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its doesnt say its a duty label people as true/false Christians.

You are either a True Christian™ or you aren’t a Christian at all. Lu:6:26: Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.
2Pe:2:1: But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

it doesnt say uts a duty to rebuke ALL, but those who sin against YOU.

I rebuke you! Those who sin against me, I forgive, those who sin against God sin against His Law and are subject to punishment and rebuke.

it doesnt say to call people hurtful names.

M't:3:7: But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
M't:12:34: O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
M't:23:33: Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

it DOES say things about 'railer' and not to be that way.........you know what that means? (look at your things about all the people Jesus dislikes or whatever at the bottom of your posts, considering you have no idea about my heart, isnt that railing?)

Your heart is irrelevant, I’m thinking of your brain that is infested with demons of liberalism. And if you mean ‘soul’, only God can look into that and if you think I’m God, you are deluded.

of course, i am with the understanding that the Messiah came with the NEW message. and to change the ways of the past , some of the ways of the OT, a new convenant with man. right?

Partially, Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Jesus did, however, change the dietary laws.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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i can see we are going to have some fun tonight, i am going to eat dinner, and then get on that.....
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do you really not know Jesus corrected the old way?.....i think you do.,..but i will present some to you after dinner.
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your brother in Christ

Go chew your blubber. You are not my brother.

[stv2kplus4]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

Post the Scriptures from the Old Testament that we are to ignore. Which ones? The 10 Commandments? Be specific.

My Bible says quite the opposite.



Has Heaven and earth passed?

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i can see we are going to have some fun tonight, i am going to eat dinner, and then get on that.....
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do you really not know Jesus corrected the old way?.....i think you do.,..but i will present some to you after dinner.
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your brother in Christ

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

The parts Jesus corrects. you will find them in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Its not a secret. This is a purpose of the Messiah, to give testimony to the truth. you dont need to put angry emoticons, this is a healthy discussion between brothers and sisters. we are not doing anything wrong. do you have a lot of anger in your heart? if not, i can tell you, you come across that way, and it can make people stand-offish and be counter-productive to new Christians faith and may even de-rail someone.....(btw you never addressed the 'railing' issue) is this a valid teaching in the NT?

Post the Scriptures from the Old Testament that we are to ignore. Which ones? The 10 Commandments? Be specific.

My Bible says quite the opposite.

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Matthew 5:18

Has Heaven and earth passed?

[stv2kplus4]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

Really? Do tell. And exactly which parts of the OT are we to ignore? Post them here please, so we can get busy.

The parts Jesus corrects. you will find them in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Its not a secret. This is a purpose of the Messiah, to give testimony to the truth. you dont need to put angry emoticons, this is a healthy discussion between brothers and sisters. we are not doing anything wrong. do you have a lot of anger in your heart? if not, i can tell you, you come across that way, and it can make people stand-offish and be counter-productive to new Christians faith and may even de-rail someone.....(btw you never addressed the 'railing' issue) is this a valid teaching in the NT?

[Cindy Lou Jenkins]

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you say it, not me. i think on the level you are looking at it, you will find many contradictions, i do not. which is one of the things i like about the KJV, its clears up contradictions in the NIV.........

do you remember Jesus ever saying "love your life", "love one another"?as i am a disciple of Christ, so therfore, a brother...... this teaching could be associated to priority to God?, no? so ,can we love our life?

You are the one picking scripture to contradict others. Then you have the nerve to accuse me of seeing contradictions when i have clearly stated there are none. You sir are a hypocrite. If you do not perceive any contradiction, then good. Maybe there is some hope for your otherwise damned soul. But do not go around projecting your blasphemy on others.

(Billy Bob: I approve this post.)

[stv2kplus4]

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If you are trying to suggest that the Bible contradicts itself, i assure you it does not.

Luke 14:26 (King James Version)

26If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

(Billy Bob: I approve this post.)

you say it, not me. i think on the level you are looking at it, you will find many contradictions, i do not. which is one of the things i like about the KJV, its clears up contradictions in the NIV.........

do you remember Jesus ever saying "love your life", "love one another"?as i am a disciple of Christ, so therfore, a brother...... this teaching could be associated to priority to God?, no? so ,can we love our life?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

of course, i am with the understanding that the Messiah came with the NEW message. and to change the ways of the past , some of the ways of the OT, a new convenant with man. right?

Really? Do tell. And exactly which parts of the OT are we to ignore? Post them here please, so we can get busy.

[stv2kplus4]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

i think its terrible to label me as 'unsaved trash', you have no idea.
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how hurtful.
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But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

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do we understand about the spirit of truth, whats in our hearts, how what comes out of our mouths is what defiles us?
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isnt the grammer thing really just a 'cheap shot' at me? and for what?

your brother in Christ.

[Cindy Lou Jenkins]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

one thing it says is that if a man says he loves God, but hates his brother, he is a liar.

If you are trying to suggest that the Bible contradicts itself, i assure you it does not.

Luke 14:26 (King James Version)

26If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

(Billy Bob: I approve this post.)

[stv2kplus4]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

Of course it belongs here in the "things the bible doesnt say"..section
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its doesnt say its a duty label people as true/false Christians.
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it doesnt say uts a duty to rebuke ALL, but those who sin against YOU.
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it doesnt say to call people hurtful names.
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it DOES say things about 'railers' and not to be that way.........you know what that means? (look at your things about all the people Jesus dislikes or whatever at the bottom of your posts, considering you have no idea about my heart, isnt that railing?)

of course, i am with the understanding that the Messiah came with the NEW message. and to change the ways of the past , some of the ways of the OT, a new convenant with man. right?

[Felicity]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

@stv2kplus4 Why don't you just ask Jesus for better grammar skills?

[stv2kplus4]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

are you talking about my grammer, yes, i do some typos'..(but it should be understandable for the savvy) i hope it is more understandable now.

I am curious, i see a lot a claims of people being 'true Christians', If I read 1 John 4, i can get an idea of some of the indicaters, and one thing it says is that if a man says he loves God, but hates his brother, he is a liar. I have a hard concept with the term "True Christian" as we cannot push God of his throne and decide this. I see a lot of name calling and what not, so is it more than just reading the KJV (my favorite) and actually striving to live his teachings. I know Christ knows we arn't perfect, and i believe, he wants us to strive to be perfect...

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those scriptural quotes are from the KJV. i dont understand.