Genesis 9:20. Was Noah a victim of Sodomy?

[Talitha]

During a recent Bible study I once again read through Genesis.
When I got to Chapter 9:20 I started to read something that confused me greatly.

Noah had a Vineyard, drank Wine, got drunk and fell asleep naked. He was naked in his tent when Ham came along.
When Noah woke up he "Knew what his son had done" then promptly put out a curse on his younger Son.
We are taught that nakedness is sinful because it can cause Lust.
Perhaps (hope upon hope) there was nothing Homer going on here, but with all the talk in this Forum about Sodomites I felt I had to ask the question.
Maybe they played some sort of joke on Noah like putting a funny picture on his bottom? I hope so, but it seems so strange that Noah was SO angry!

Pastors, please assure me that there were no Sodomites in this part of the Bible.

Genesis 9:20-29 (King James Version)
And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.
And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren. And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
And Noah lived after the flood three hundred and fifty years.

Noah obviously didn't die of the Gay plague so he must have been innocent (I hope).

[Virginia Day Templeton]

Re: Genesis 9:20. Was Noah a victim of Sodomy?

Nigras will fornicate with anything that so much as twitches, including their own fathers and mothers. Ham, proto-nigra that he was, was no different.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Genesis 9:20. Was Noah a victim of Sodomy?

It's very hard to say. We're told Ham uncovered Noah's nakedness. Then again, we're also told that sleeping with your mother counts as uncovering your father's nakedness:
Leviticus 20:11 And the man that lieth with his father's wife hath uncovered his father's nakedness: both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

It's a confusing area, but the Bible seems very clear that we must avoid it:
Deuteronomy 20:27 Cursed be he that lieth with his father's wife; because he uncovereth his father's skirt. And all the people shall say, Amen.

Frankly, it's impossible to be 100% sure whether Ham was sodomising his father, his mother, and/or the giraffes. The full sordid truth may never be known, or at least not until we get to Heaven and have the chance to ask God Himself, who was there.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: Genesis 9:20. Was Noah a victim of Sodomy?

Frankly, it's impossible to be 100% sure whether Ham was sodomising his father, his mother, and/or the giraffes. The full sordid truth may never be known, or at least not until we get to Heaven and have the chance to ask God Himself, who was there.

And you choose to follow a book like this? You're all mad.

[Deaner]

Re: Genesis 9:20. Was Noah a victim of Sodomy?

And you choose to follow a book like this? You're all mad.

It's got nothing to do with the book; you have to read between the lines. What happened was an abomination, a violent attack on the love of our Lord, a capitol crime in the Kingdom of Heaven. It was so bad that God obviously still had a hard time talking about it when He dictated the King James Bible to us in 1611.

Now, let's do the math. It involved fornication, it involved voyeurism, it involved doing something sneaky...and it involved a darkie. Can you imagine the kinds of things they were capable of back then? When approx. 2000 years of Christian teaching down the road the best they can do is play harmonica and dance for tips? It must have been a hideous act.

Dean

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: Genesis 9:20. Was Noah a victim of Sodomy?

But the fact is you don't know. Just another wonderful example of your book being full of contradictions and weird holes.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Genesis 9:20. Was Noah a victim of Sodomy?

But the fact is you don't know. Just another wonderful example of your book being full of contradictions and weird holes.

We know what the Good Lord wants us to know. And He's not too vague about what He wants us to do with witches. No siree.

[TwinkBoy]

Re: Genesis 9:20. Was Noah a victim of Sodomy?

Hmmm...ELLO LOVES!!

The great and infamous NOAH sodomized by his son? My O My! And IF he was then that means that everyone on this earth today is descended from a SODOMITE because according to your Bible everyone was killed on earth except Noah the Sodomite and his Sodomite Clan.

Now consider all this CAREFULLY TC's because there just MIGHT be quite a BIG REVELATION for all of you! And don't forget to bless sweet Ham LMAO.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: Genesis 9:20. Was Noah a victim of Sodomy?

We know what the Good Lord wants us to know. And He's not too vague about what He wants us to do with witches. No siree.

No, you know what the many assorted writers and editors of the babble (aka bible) want you to know.

In this case, you'll never know if in the story Ham slept with his father, father's wife, or both, or both at once, or both at once with a pickle on top. *snicker*

[Brother Love]

Re: Genesis 9:20. Was Noah a victim of Sodomy?

Heathen WITCH the good Lord IS going to get you for that one! How dare you IN-SIN-U-WAIT that Noah and Ham were degenerates and the wife too! As my good friend, the GODLY Rev. Pat Robertson likes to say, "I might have to tolerate other people BUT I DON'T have to tolerate the SPIRIT OF THE ANTICHRIST and I won't!"

PRAISE THE LORD!
Burn Witch, BURN!!!!!!!!!

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: Genesis 9:20. Was Noah a victim of Sodomy?

Well if he was so pure and unsoiled what was he doing passed out drunk and naked? He was either having some hanky panky or some hand-y party if you know what I mean.

Stop with the burning already. You need to mellow out and be more like your nephew.

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Genesis 9:20. Was Noah a victim of Sodomy?

Hmmm...ELLO LOVES!!

The great and infamous NOAH sodomized by his son? My O My! And IF he was then that means that everyone on this earth today is descended from a SODOMITE because according to your Bible everyone was killed on earth except Noah the Sodomite and his Sodomite Clan.

Silly Twink.

You do realize that being raped by his son while he was incapacitated doesn't make Noah a Sodomite, don't you?

At worst, all the dark-skinned folk in the world are descended from a Sodomite.

By the way, if you're trying to imitate Tim Curry's character from Rocky Horror, it may be worth noting that his character wasn't a Brit, and would not have said, "'ello, love!"

[Virginia Day Templeton]

Re: Genesis 9:20. Was Noah a victim of Sodomy?

But the fact is you don't know. Just another wonderful example of your book being full of contradictions and weird holes.

Get your mind out of the gutter, Van Hellbound!

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: Genesis 9:20. Was Noah a victim of Sodomy?

Get your mind out of the gutter, Van Hellbound!

WHOSE mind is in the gutter? I wasn't even thinking about those holes.

[Rev. Dr. Davidson]

Re: Genesis 9:20. Was Noah a victim of Sodomy?

WHOSE mind is in the gutter? I wasn't even thinking about those holes.

Your depravity knows no bounds Van Fishsticks. You should be ashamed, and cowering in a closet somewhere, praying that Jesus doesn't strike you dead. Only you would think of sodomy in conjunction with scripture. It saddens me heart to know there is someone more depraved than Howard Stern in the world.