The unforgivable sin

[Jacob.R]

Blaspheme against God and the bible is wrong, we all know that. But is it really unforgivable to the extent that once it is done we are and how do we know if we are safe or not?

[Levi Jones]

Re: The unforgivable sin

Blaspheme against God and the bible is wrong, we all know that. But is it really unforgivable to the extent that once it is done we are and how do we know if we are safe or not?

Blasphemy against the Holy Ghost is the unforgivable sin. If you are intent on spamming this place like a monkey throwing its own feces, you will be gone soon enough.

Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

[exMormon]

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Levi is right. Most Christians live in utter terror at the thought that at some point they may have accidentally blasphemed the Holy Ghost. Imagine... one slip of the tongue, even just once, and you have sealed your eternity in Hellfire.

Scary stuff, huh?

[Jacob.R]

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I've heard though that if you are worried about it then you probably didn't do it and are forgiven.
I think it is more of a, If you deliberately bag out Jesus/God and blaspheme against him that is when it is unforgivable. But sometimes it might be an accident, or you didn't realize quite what you said

@eXmormon: Yeah it is really scary.

@Levi: I have no intent of spamming...

[Levi Jones]

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I've heard though that if you are worried about it then you probably didn't do it and are forgiven.
I think it is more of a, If you deliberately bag out Jesus/God and blaspheme against him that is when it is unforgivable. But sometimes it might be an accident, or you didn't realize quite what you said

Did you not read the scripture I just posted? You can say whatever you want about the God/Jesus, but you are never forgiven if you utter a blaspheme against the Holy Ghost.

Here it is again in Mark.

Mark 3:28-29 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.

I hope you are not claiming it is somehow metaphorical or something.

[Jacob.R]

Re: The unforgivable sin

You are wrong.
It states in the Bible that God is 3 persons. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost.

Therefore the Holy Ghost is God and Jesus meaning that therefore blaspheming against them would incur the same punishment.

And It depends on how you define blaspheme, and if how you define it is the same with how God defines it.

[Levi Jones]

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You are wrong.
It states in the Bible that God is 3 persons. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost.

Chapter and verse please, sir. Where in the Bible does it say that?

Hint: It doesn't. If one were to actually read the Bible, one would know, the only sin that is unforgivable is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit as I have repeatedly pointed out to you, yet you continue to deny it.

[Jacob.R]

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The whole Bible, There are numerous things in the bible that aren't specifically stated yet by reviewing the bible as a hole are determined, this being one of them. The early fathers of the church had this faith too.
By denying the early fathers of the church, you need to straighten out your faith sir. God does not look kindly on people who try to deny him or any properties of him.

[Levi Jones]

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The whole Bible, There are numerous things in the bible that aren't specifically stated yet by reviewing the bible as a hole are determined, this being one of them. The early fathers of the church had this faith too.
By denying the early fathers of the church, you need to straighten out your faith sir. God does not look kindly on people who try to deny him or any properties of him.

I see. You're a catlicker who can't find the shift key to properly punctuate things like Him, His, Church, Bible and etc.

I might as well go into retirement at this point. There hasn't been a decent false Christian on this board in forever.

[WWJDnow]

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You are wrong. It states in the Bible that God is 3 persons. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost. Therefore the Holy Ghost is God and Jesus meaning that therefore blaspheming against them would incur the same punishment.

No, Jacob, you are wrong. Please stop telling people what the Bible says, because you have obviously never read it. Here's what Jesus had to say about this--and I'll take His word and that of a fellow True Christian™ over the word of a liar like you any day:

And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. Matthew 12:32

The whole Bible, There are numerous things in the bible that aren't specifically stated yet by reviewing the bible as a hole are determined, this being one of them.

The Bible tells us that God has blinded some persons to the truth of the Word to keep those persons from being saved. You, Jacob, are obviously one of them. Anyway, it's ironic that someone who hasn't read any of the Bible cites the whole Bible to back up his ridiculous statements.

By denying the early fathers of the church, you need to straighten out your faith sir.

The early fathers of the church? Once again, try reading what the Bible actually says:

...call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Matthew 23:9

God does not look kindly on people who try to deny him or any properties of him.

God does not look kindly upon persons like you who lie about what the Bible says.

[exMormon]

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Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

Jacob,

This verse is clearly referring to the 3 personages of the trinity as separate. It wouldn't make any sense to say that you will be forgiven for blaspheming the Father and the Son and then to turn around and say that if you blaspheme them you are also blaspheming the Holy Ghost.

One is forgiveable, the other is not. I think you are skating on thin ice here, you're coming pretty close to blaspheming the Holy Ghost so I would quit while you're ahead.

[Don Bozo el Guapo]

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You are wrong.
It states in the Bible that God is 3 persons. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost.

Therefore the Holy Ghost is God and Jesus meaning that therefore blaspheming against them would incur the same punishment.

And It depends on how you define blaspheme, and if how you define it is the same with how God defines it.

I gotta go with this guy, I always figured the Trinity like the 3 Musketeers,one for all and all for one,like guys you want at your back in a biker bar. And personally I define blaspheme as rocks in your Jack Daniels

I might as well go into retirement at this point. There hasn't been a decent false Christian on this board in forever.

Au contraire mon fairy. I consider myself a very Christian decent false Christian. But dont let the door bump you in the azz.

[VA W.A.S.P.]

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Did you not read the scripture I just posted? You can say whatever you want about the God/Jesus, but you are never forgiven if you utter a blaspheme against the Holy Ghost.

Here it is again in Mark.

Mark 3:28-29 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.

I hope you are not claiming it is somehow metaphorical or something.

This is indeed the truth.

I was curious however, doesn't one of the blasphemous books trying to claim itself as the Bible somehow translate this into saying the only unforgivable sin is to not honor thy mother mother and father?

Mind you, I am not saying this is true, I realize that the only unforgivable sin is to speak blaspheme against the Holy Ghost, but I thought I had read something in a publication several years ago pointing out that this fraud of a Bible was trying to make the other claim? Is anyone familiar with this?

Thanks!

[Levi Jones]

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This is indeed the truth.

I was curious however, doesn't one of the blasphemous books trying to claim itself as the Bible somehow translate this into saying the only unforgivable sin is to not honor thy mother mother and father?

Mind you, I am not saying this is true, I realize that the only unforgivable sin is to speak blaspheme against the Holy Ghost, but I thought I had read something in a publication several years ago pointing out that this fraud of a Bible was trying to make the other claim? Is anyone familiar with this?

Thanks!

As far as I recall, there are many exhortations for children to obey and honor their parents.

Ephesians 6:1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.

Colossians 3:20 Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.

based on the commandment in

Exodus 20:12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.

There is even the emergency option for a child who will not obey.

Deuteronomy 21:18-21 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;
And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.