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Re: The 67 deadly sins of the New Testament.
Oh? How would you interpret the sins listed by Pastor Will? Are you calling him and God liars?
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How is it hateful to point out what is in the Bible?Originally posted by Ryan1980 View PostUsing hate to spread gods word isn't gonna win any souls I know that much.
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I never said anything about having a problem with the 67 deadly sins or with Jesus. I love Jesus and he loves me. I'm sure of that. The hate is the problem. But no matter what anyone says on here is gonna prove that to you believe me. I've seen on here how people who seem pretty logical get shot down because they don't agree with you people. Saying someone has to agree with your every thought and word or interpretation of gods word or they are not saved is pretty much saying you are god. I'm sure god doesn't like that. But no point in arguing We will all find out exactly where we stand on judgment day. Praise Jesus Christ Lord of lords and king of kings.
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These 67 deadly sins are not something we made up. They are rules set by Jesus. If you don't like them, you have a problem with Jesus. Not with us.Originally posted by Ryan1980 View PostUsing hate to spread gods word isn't gonna win any souls I know that much.
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Using hate to spread gods word isn't gonna win any souls I know that much.
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Welcome to God’s favorite forum, Ryan! Before you do anything else, please be sure to drop by the introduction forum and start a thread telling us what church you attend, your favorite Bible verse and how you found Jesus.Originally posted by Ryan1980 View Post"They shall put you out of the synagogues; yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth god service" this place does sound like a place that would do that.
We hate God's enemies. We don't apologize for that.I see a lot of hate coming from people who think they are "perfect" Christians.
Ps 139:21-22 Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
God commands us to judge.The bible says we are made in the image of god. But some people on here seem to think they are god. And if you don't follow their every word or agree with their every thought then they themselves can condemn you. Isn't that gods job?
Lev 19:15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.
Ps 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.
Jn 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
1 Cor 5:12-13 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
1 Corinthians 6:1-6
1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?.
4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.
1 Cor 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
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If you disagree with us, please show us from Scripture how we are wrong.I saw a guy on here make a pretty good point quoting scripture and he was told what he said was irrelevant. So therefor is the bibles word irrelevant?
Amen! One of my favorite rebukes is when Jesus damns the residents of three entire cities for not believing in Him after all the miracles He'd done.Jesus rebuked out of love and with love.
Mat 11:21-24
21 Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.
22 But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment, than for you.
23 And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.
24 But I say unto you, That it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee.
We love those we have to love -- our neighbors and our brothers and sisters in Christ.One of his last commandments was to love one another. I see hate.
So . . . you come here, judge us, compare us to the Pharisees and threaten us with eternal damnation because we don't agree with you. Hypocritical much?And I do say all this stuff out of love. Cause I even heard somebody here say it- even some believers are going to be cast in the lake of fire.
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"They shall put you out of the synagogues; yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth god service" this place does sound like a place that would do that. I see a lot of hate coming from people who think they are "perfect" Christians. The bible says we are made in the image of god. But some people on here seem to think they are god. And if you don't follow their every word or agree with their every thought then they themselves can condemn you. Isn't that gods job? I saw a guy on here make a pretty good point quoting scripture and he was told what he said was irrelevant. So therefor is the bibles word irrelevant? Jesus rebuked out of love and with love. One of his last commandments was to love one another. I see hate. Some people on here remind me of the high priests who had Jesus crucified. If Jesus himself showed up they would condemn him cause what they say is in their minds the word of god. The headline on this site says gaurenteeing salvation since 1620. Isn't god the only one who can gaurentee salvation? And I do say all this stuff out of love. Cause I even heard somebody here say it- even some believers are going to be cast in the lake of fire.
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The Atonement of Christ is limited to those who believe, dear, not everyone who is a sinner. The Bible makes it abundantly clear that many people will be lost, even those who believed (Daniel 12:2; Matthew 7:13–14; Matthew 7:22–23; Matthew 25:46; 2 Thessalonians 1:9; Revelation 20:15)Originally posted by AustinWoodard View Post"But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us."
Originally posted by AustinWoodard View Post"Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love."If ye love me, keep my commandments.
John 14:15
He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me:
and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
John 14:21
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words:
and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
John 14:23
If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love;
even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
John 15:10
And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1 John 2:3
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments:
and his commandments are not grievous.
1 John 5:3
And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment,
That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
2 John 1:6
Because you sinners too lazy to read the Holy Bible yourself, our dear Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson has shared the fruit of his labor of Biblical love:Originally posted by AustinWoodard View PostAnd my personal favorite for your non-Christian hatred:
"You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same?"
Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?
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Originally posted by AustinWoodard View Post"But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us."Mark 16:16 (1611 King James Bible)
He that beleeueth and is baptized, shalbe saued, but he that beleeueth not, shall be damned.You are confusing rebuking with hating:Originally posted by AustinWoodard View Post"Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love."
Leviticus 19:17 (1611 King James Bible)
¶ Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sinne vpon him.Originally posted by AustinWoodard View PostAnd my personal favorite for your non-Christian hatred:
"You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same?"Psalms 97:10 (1611 King James Bible)
Yee that loue the Lord, hate euil; hee preserueth the soules of his Saints: hee deliuereth them out of the hand of the wicked.
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"But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us."
"Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love."
And my personal favorite for your non-Christian hatred:
"You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same?"
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Thanks for that clarification Sister...in my mind (as you pointed out I am not familiar with this as I dutifully keep my wife separated during her unclean times), I naively likened the filthy rags to those that accumulate after I have detailed the undercarriage of my Z06 after auto-crossing competitions. This makes more sense though.Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda View PostWell said, Brother. The prophet Isaiah likens unsaved sinners like Austin here, "filthy rags." That refers to menstrual rags. I know men aren't to familiar with such a thing, and seeing how this is not the lady's forum, I'll leave it at this: Austin - to God, you are no more precious than a week old rag stuffed between the aching thighs of a pissed-off woman whose uterus has been expelling blood and tissue for days and days.
But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags;
and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
Isaiah 64:6
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Well said, Brother. The prophet Isaiah likens unsaved sinners like Austin here, "filthy rags." That refers to menstrual rags. I know men aren't to familiar with such a thing, and seeing how this is not the lady's forum, I'll leave it at this: Austin - to God, you are no more precious than a week old rag stuffed between the aching thighs of a pissed-off woman whose uterus has been expelling blood and tissue for days and days.Originally posted by Mark L. Snyde, PhD View PostGod tells us the unsaved are trash.
But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags;
and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
Isaiah 64:6
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Originally posted by AustinWoodard View PostI would venture to say no one would be willing to join a group of people who have so strongly rejected them in the past.Romans 8:31 (1611 King James Bible)
What shall wee then say to these things? If God be for vs, who can bee against vs?Why do you hate God?Originally posted by AustinWoodard View PostI was a firm believer and was actually employed at a church for several years, but people like I've seen here taught me that there can't truly be a god. I never again want to be associated with the hateful group called "Christians" who live in a world in which they believe they are any better than every other human alive. We're all made of the exact same stuff.
Luke 10:16 (1611 King James Bible)
Hee that heareth you, heareth me: and he that despiseth you, despiseth me: and he that despiseth me, despiseth him that sent me.All the "good works" in the world are as "filthy rags" unto God without the cleansing blood of Christ:Originally posted by AustinWoodard View PostNo one is any better than anyone else, yet I was taught to look down upon people who were doing nothing but trying to make the world a better place an help one another.
The atheist who spends his life helping others is bound for hell while the mass murderer who later receives Christ will sit at the right hand of God for eternity. The Bible is pretty clear about this. Without the hematological gift of Christ, we are bound for hell, no matter how good of a person we think we are.Isaiah 64:6 (1611 King James Bible)
But we are al as an vncleane thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy ragges, and we all doe fade as a leafe, and our iniquities like the wind haue taken vs away.
God tells us the unsaved are trash. True Christians™ show people that they are trash without Christ, and endeavor to bring this trash to redemption through Christ. There is no higher calling in life, friend.Originally posted by AustinWoodard View PostIf being a Christian means calling people trash, then I want no place in it. The world would be a much more peaceful place if religion never existed. Christians do nothing but tear people down and expect those people to join them.
Acts 10:42 (1611 King James Bible)
And he commanded vs to preach vnto the people, and to testifie that it is he which was ordeined of God to be the Iudge of quicke and dead.We are not brain-washed zombies...we hold our beliefs because they are self-evident. All other beliefs are brainwashing though.Originally posted by AustinWoodard View PostYou only believe what you do because it's been ingrained into your head. Just like a Hindu believes what they do because they've been taught to. You're molded at an age where it is so deep set into your brain that you can almost never get it out. No one stops to ask themselves simple questions such as "how was there a first 'day' without a sun?" Because you're taught to never question. The curiosity we've evolved to have has been destroyed by this. Our world is collapsing in on itself because of the hatred you are spreading.
The Word of God tells us It is true, therefore It is true:
Now you can plainly see that you are wrong and we are right, as we have God's True Word backing all we say and do.2 Timothy 3:16 (1611 King James Bible)
All Scripture is giuen by inspiration of God, & is profitable for doctrine, for reproofe, for correction, for instrution in righteousnesse,
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