[Alphonse Alban]

Re: The 67 deadly sins of the New Testament.

This is hilarious.

Yes, it is hilarious that second time in a row you failed to answer a simple question about the Bible. Tell me now, why do you not believe in the Bible?

[bb2112]

Re: The 67 deadly sins of the New Testament.

This is hilarious. I get "penalized" for listing Bible verses while the pastor can freely call non-Christians "trash." I actually thought this was an actual church, but so relieved to see this is one of those "Koran-burning," "funeral-protesting," "God Hates F-gs" get-ups.
These people are like the real life version of the movie Red State. There's clearly a 100% chance that the congregation is all-white and most are probably related to the founder. The pastor here must have significant schizophrenia or at the very least some major personality disorder, because the congregation (all 12 of them) clearly displays those same signs. I wish you guys had a reality show. I'd definitely watch.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: The 67 deadly sins of the New Testament.

Have you read the entire bible? No one is perfect.

Hello, and welcome to our friendly forums! I can see you're new in your walk with Christ. You might wish to read the Holy Bible before attempting to "correct" someone whose Salvation© is guaranteed! For example, you might want to familiarize yourself with just how True Christians are Perfect!

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: The 67 deadly sins of the New Testament.

This rhetoric on this site is pretty basic stuff—ignore 80% of what Jesus said

Your lies won't fly here. We follow the entire Bible. Not just the 20% you like.

the Old Testament that Jesus actually spoke out against.

Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

These are words of Jesus. What do they say about the Old testament?

[bb2112]

Re: The 67 deadly sins of the New Testament.

You clearly have not read the bible. Answer me this first. What happens to people who does not follow every word of God? What is the place where Jesus will damn every single person who does not accept Him as their personal Saviour?

Have you read the entire bible? No one is perfect. No one follows God's every word to perfection. Have you? (The young man said to him, “All these I have kept. What do I still lack?” Jesus said to him, “If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.” When the young man heard this he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.) I sure haven't.

It's also pretty straightforward on issues like calling non-Christians "trash."

Matthew 5:22: But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

I Cor. 13: 1-3: If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. And if I give all my possessions to feed the poor, and if I surrender my body to be burned, but do not have love, it profits me nothing.

Ephesians 4: 29: Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for edification according to the need of the moment, so that it will give grace to those who hear.

Ephesians 5: 6-7: Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. Therefore do not be partakers with them

Philippians 2:3: Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves.

James 4: 11-12: Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge. There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?

This rhetoric on this site is pretty basic stuff—ignore 80% of what Jesus said (especially what Jesus had to say about wealth—because 2013 Jesus "now supports tax cuts for the upper 2%") and instead focus on the hateful, vengeful verses in the Old Testament that Jesus actually spoke out against. Let everyone know that you, and your followers alone, have the one, true, perfect and wholly accurate interpretation of the Bible and call out everyone else for being fools. Obsess on a small minority of (gay) Americans (and obsess, and obsess and obsess on them) whilst ignoring the massive plank in our collective Evangelical eye. (Talk about how awful and disgusting and repugnant they are...but then say that you LOVE them, just like Jesus did, it's just that you can't stand the thought of them.) See the world from the viewpoint of a pro wrestling fan, where everyone who agrees with you are the "good guys" and everyone who disagrees with you are the "bad guys." Refuse the fraternize with the bad guys, despite the fact that Christ did the complete opposite.

[Jedediah]

Re: The 67 deadly sins of the New Testament.

Perhaps there is hope for you yet. My family and I will pray for you.

Proverbs 13:18
Poverty and shame shall be to him that refuseth instruction: but he that regardeth reproof shall be honoured.

[Sherman of Babylon]

Re: The 67 deadly sins of the New Testament.

I suppose you're all correct... our Lord is indeed omnipotent and I should not argue with the True Christians. Thank you for helping me see.

Blessed be,

Sherman

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: The 67 deadly sins of the New Testament.

First off, I would like to thank Pastor Manning for that incredible rebuke. That was amazing.

The Bible is an ambiguous book, based upon interpretation. The literal words of the Bible are what you quote, but you interpret them in a hateful way.

I see. In your opinion, the Bible is open to interpretation. Which parts do you choose to follow literally and which parts are open to interpretation?

Was Jesus truly in the ground for three days? Did He rise from the grave? Or perhaps that is open to interpretation? Maybe the resurrection was symbolic for the future redemption of Israel after the temple was destroyed by the Romans. Heck, maybe Jesus is just some made up folk hero like Heracles.

Do you see the danger of this interpretive thinking and the troubles it can lead to? I know I certainly do.

If the Bible says there are people God hates, there are people God hates. It isn't open to interpretation.

If the Bible and the New Testament in particular says there are things that people can do that are sins, it is true.
You either must believe in these things or you have not earned the right to believe in Jesus!

Also see this sermon.
Teaching not interpreting

Have you met Jesus? Have you been face to face with God?

Of course I have. Every time I pray. Haven't you? Are you some sort of atheist fool who claims I can't see God because He is invisible?

Only fools can't see our invisible savior. It reminds me of that one story where the king got new clothes that only fools couldn't see.

Psalm 14:1
1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

I find it a shame that you stare into the ass of Satan,

That's gross.

Friend, I confess Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. If I do this, I am of Christ Jesus. I could not do it if Jesus was not leading my life.

1 John 4:2-3
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

You make pronouncements against a Christian in the most disgusting and puerile ways. Are you a teenager?

The unmerciful, destructive and hateful God you describe is no God of mine or any other Christian with a good value.

God has called us to live without sin! If you can't manage that, why are you a Christian?

Matthew 5:48
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Without understanding? It matters not how much you understand, but whether you understand your opponent. You don't know who he is, his actions, his person, his family, nor his experience. How much right do you have to judge him, once this is pointed out?

I am not judging. I am trying to save souls here as we are called to in the exact way we are called to.

Did Jesus go around saying?
"Aw, that's alright. You're a sinner. I still love you huggy bunches anyway."
No! Jesus said: Luke 13:5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Did Paul say to coddle sinners who do the wrong things? Absolutely not!

Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove [them].

2 Timothy 4:1-2 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

Paul is not making a suggestion here. He is making a command.

Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

While we at LBC do our fair share of rebuking, I want you to look at the word "reprove" I left bold for you. In the Greek, the word is used thusly:

a) generally with a suggestion of shame of the person convicted
b) by conviction to bring to the light, to expose
2) to find fault with, correct
a) by word
1) to reprehend severely, chide, admonish, reprove
2) to call to account, show one his fault, demand an explanation
b) by deed
1) to chasten, to punish

We are to save people by any means necessary. We will not lie to them or sugarcoat God's Word!

If one rejects Christ as many have, it is not your responsibility to fight their decision.

Utterly and completely wrong!

Jude 1:22-23 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

People like you, who shame and fight, are but pests in the eye of God who will be cast into the depths of the fire

Didn't you just finish saying I was too judgmental and that only God weighs the heart and kidneys of a man to know his inner worth?

Do you often go around pointing out splinters in people's eyes with that 2x4 protruding from yours?

[Pastor J.C. Manning, M.D., Ph.D.]

Re: The 67 deadly sins of the New Testament.

Dear Sherman of Babylon,

There are Christians like myself, and there are Christians like yourself. We agree on some things, but we strongly disagree on others.

I am afraid I will have to correct you on this. Christians never disagree on anything. Christians follow the Holy Bible for 100% as this is the only way that is acceptable to God (James 2:10).

The Bible is an ambiguous book, based upon interpretation.

You seem to be underestimating God. God is omnipotent (Genesis 18:14, Luke 18:27, Revelation 19:6), God is omniscient (Psalm 139:2-6, Isaiah 40:13-14) and God is righteous and just (Deuteronomy 32:4, Psalm 11:7, Psalm 119:137). God is very capable of delivering a consistent and clear Bible and this is exactly what He did (Deuteronomy 4:2, Revelation 22:18-19, Psalm 12:6-7). You insult God by falsely assuming His Bible is flawed.

The literal words of the Bible are what you quote, but you interpret them in a hateful way. Have you met Jesus? Have you been face to face with God? I find it a shame that you stare into the ass of Satan, believing you say the face of our good Lord. The unmerciful, destructive and hateful God you describe is no God of mine or any other Christian with a good value.

I am afraid you cannot deny God's Holy word and at the same time claim to be a Christian. That is simply not how it works. God knows all and God knows best (Proverbs 3:19, Romans 16:26-27, 1 Timothy 1:17). All we have to do is obey Him by following His Holy Bible to the letter. Everything else will lead to eternal damnation.

If one rejects Christ as many have, it is not your responsibility to fight their decision.

I am afraid you could not be more mistaken. Helping people who deny Jesus to stop sinning and save their immortal souls is exactly what God demands from us (Leviticus 19:15, John 7:24, 2nd Timothy 4:1-2, Psalm 37:30, Proverbs 31:9, 1 Corinthians 2:15, Galatians 4:6).

Jesus applauds those who love everyone, regardless.

You should consider spending more time on studying the Holy Bible. Just look at Matthew 10:34-37 and Luke 14:26 to see how mistaken your statements about Jesus are!

I came here for spiritual guidance. I pray I will find it.

Your prayers have been answered. Jesus has guided you here for a reason! Just study His Holy Bible and the truth about Christianity will be revealed to you. Or refuse to study His Holy Bible and burn in Hell for all eternity (Mark 16:16, Revelation 21:8, John 15:6, John 14:6). The choice is yours. I sincerely pray you will make the right one.

Yours in Christ,

Pastor J.C. Manning, M.D., Ph.D.

[Sherman of Babylon]

Re: The 67 deadly sins of the New Testament.

It is a reasonable argument because you say so. So far it has started off badly. You are judging me while using filthy language.

Okay, let's assume what you are saying is correct. Does it change the fact that the Bible still says these things? Should I not be allowed to quote the Bible Jesus' and Paul's own words to show you what is in it?

Of course, what you are saying is utter garbage. I am in no way hateful any more than a firefighter who rescues you from a burning building is hateful.

What have I ever done to you as retribution for your wrongdoings? I leave wrath to the LORD.

Do you know my works? Do you know the things I do? No? Then, don't opine on things you know nothing of.

How does one prove humility? I supposed I could tell you how humble I am, but that wouldn't prove it very well.

I understand quite a bit, so that dog won't hunt, lady.

I am quite affectionate to my brothers and sisters and neighbors in Christ. I don't give a rat's behind about your opinion of me.

It's is not me you should be worried about placating. You had better placate Jesus.

Luke 12:5

I suppose if you are standing on the railroad tracks and I see a train coming at you, it would be unmerciful of me to yell at you to warn you of this.

What greater mercy could there be for you than eternal heaven? It's a shame you reject it.

If you are saying I am a liar, you are calling God a liar.

Read this sermon

True Christians are Perfect!

I do love my neighbors, you tard. Who do you think my neighbors are?



Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?


Of course there is. You wouldn't know what is in the Bible if someone slapped you upside the head with one. How dare you come in here telling me what is in the Bible. I have forgotten more about God's Word than you ever knew.

The only thing you have is exposed here is your ignorance and hostility to God and His Holy Bible.

Because we refuse to lie to you and tell you that everything is okay? No, m'aam. I will continue shooting straight from the Bible. You can continue to be hell bound. I tried with you. There is nothing more I can do.

Matthew 10:14-15 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

There are Christians like myself, and there are Christians like yourself. We agree on some things, but we strongly disagree on others. I respect that, truly, but I feel the need to comment on the following quotes.

The Bible is an ambiguous book, based upon interpretation. The literal words of the Bible are what you quote, but you interpret them in a hateful way. Have you met Jesus? Have you been face to face with God? I find it a shame that you stare into the ass of Satan, believing you say the face of our good Lord. The unmerciful, destructive and hateful God you describe is no God of mine or any other Christian with a good value.

Without understanding? It matters not how much you understand, but whether you understand your opponent. You don't know who he is, his actions, his person, his family, nor his experience. How much right do you have to judge him, once this is pointed out?

If one rejects Christ as many have, it is not your responsibility to fight their decision. When we all stand before God, He will decide the worthier man. Jesus applauds those who love everyone, regardless. People like you, who shame and fight, are but pests in the eye of God who will be cast into the depths of the fire for your endless hatred of all who are not like you.

Romans 14:1-4

Matthew 5:43-48

John 6:37

I came here for spiritual guidance. I pray I will find it. But my prayers also go out to you- the poor lost ones, the ones I reserve my pity for. May you find your way to our Lord.

Blessed be,

Sherman.

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: The 67 deadly sins of the New Testament.

Pastor (you do not deserve this title) Sampson, not only are you an asshole, but you are a complete hypocrite. I neither expect your thick skull nor those of your self-righteous followers to allow you all to understand my reasonable argument, but here it is anyway:

It is a reasonable argument because you say so. So far it has started off badly. You are judging me while using filthy language.

You mention several sins of the NT on this post. Although you don't realize it, you are a sinner in many of these ways.

Okay, let's assume what you are saying is correct. Does it change the fact that the Bible still says these things? Should I not be allowed to quote the Bible Jesus' and Paul's own words to show you what is in it?

Of course, what you are saying is utter garbage. I am in no way hateful any more than a firefighter who rescues you from a burning building is hateful.

wrathful

What have I ever done to you as retribution for your wrongdoings? I leave wrath to the LORD.

wicked

Do you know my works? Do you know the things I do? No? Then, don't opine on things you know nothing of.

proud

How does one prove humility? I supposed I could tell you how humble I am, but that wouldn't prove it very well.

without understanding

I understand quite a bit, so that dog won't hunt, lady.

(34), without natural affection

I am quite affectionate to my brothers and sisters and neighbors in Christ. I don't give a rat's behind about your opinion of me.

implacable (37),

It's is not me you should be worried about placating. You had better placate Jesus.

Luke 12:5

and unmerciful (38) toward "unshaved trash" and "fluffy bunny cafeteria Christians"

I suppose if you are standing on the railroad tracks and I see a train coming at you, it would be unmerciful of me to yell at you to warn you of this.

What greater mercy could there be for you than eternal heaven? It's a shame you reject it.

You are for liars (46, in the sense that you condone your own lies that you are sinless),

If you are saying I am a liar, you are calling God a liar.

Read this sermon

True Christians are Perfect!

you are not loving of your neighbors

I do love my neighbors, you tard. Who do you think my neighbors are?



Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?

There is no argument for you to refute

Of course there is. You wouldn't know what is in the Bible if someone slapped you upside the head with one. How dare you come in here telling me what is in the Bible. I have forgotten more about God's Word than you ever knew.

what I have just exposed you to be

The only thing you have is exposed here is your ignorance and hostility to God and His Holy Bible.

you are not the type of Christians - or people - that others should emulate.

Because we refuse to lie to you and tell you that everything is okay? No, m'aam. I will continue shooting straight from the Bible. You can continue to be hell bound. I tried with you. There is nothing more I can do.

Matthew 10:14-15 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: The 67 deadly sins of the New Testament.

and unmerciful (38) toward "unsaved trash"

Would you prefer to be called 'chaff'?

Matthew 3:12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

YIC

Jack

[Brother Harold Porter]

Re: The 67 deadly sins of the New Testament.

Hateful rant and false accusations.

My goodness sakes, you certainly are an angry young man. Did you have a question you neglected to include in your wall of venomous bile? Or are you just here to antagonize True Christians™ on this precious day of worship?

In Christ

[rasslin]

Re: The 67 deadly sins of the New Testament.

Pastor (you do not deserve this title) Sampson, you are a complete hypocrite. I neither expect your thick skull nor those of your self-righteous followers to allow you all to understand my reasonable argument, but here it is anyway:

You mention several sins of the NT on this post. Although you don't realize it, you are a sinner in many of these ways. You are hateful (7), wrathful (10), wicked (20), despiteful (29), proud (30), without understanding (34), without natural affection (36), implacable (37), and unmerciful (38) toward "unsaved trash" and "fluffy bunny cafeteria Christians" you are so judgmental of. You are for liars (46, in the sense that you condone your own lies that you are sinless), and you are not loving of your neighbors (again, who you consider "unsaved trash") as yourself (58). Based on these facts, you should not bother praying to God, because as you claimed in another post, he will not honor the prayers of sinners (though you fail to recognize that he does recognize repentance).

There is no argument for you to refute what I have just exposed you to be, even though all of you will attack me for this. None of you are the "True Believing right with God Christians" you hold yourselves to be, and you are not the type of Christians - or people - that others should emulate. Because of your brash exclusiveness and intolerance, you are the KKK of Christianity.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: The 67 deadly sins of the New Testament.

Pastor (you do not deserve this title) Sampson, not only are you an asshole *** screech!!! ***

Sorry friend, I could read no further than that. I presume the rest of your post is filled with obscenities and lies so I'm not missing much. It's glaringly obvious you don't know anything about Pastor Will because he is one of the sweetest, most caring people I know. He spends every single day of his life telling people about the wonderful information contained in the KJV Bible.

Now, before we go any further, I'd like for you to make a thread of your own in the Introduction Forum. Tell us all about yourself.

See if you can do it without using profanity.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth