[Bobby-Joe]

Re: A trick for converting secular-raised children

Sure Jesus isn't real. He's a myth just like Santa or Darth Wader. In fact the name 'Jesus' or 'Joshua' was very common in Bronze-Age Middle East and there were hundreds of 'Jesuses' and hundreds of Rabbi preachers migrating through the country. It's like the myth of Atlantis and also has got a book and a reality based core and many bed-times stories formed around over the centuries. So, it's even worse than Darth Wader.

Please show the real life bases for "Darth Wader" (I assume you mean George Lucas' Darth Vader) and Plato's Atlantis.

Again, you claim Jesus doesn't exist, prove it. Simple saying "lack of historical record" doesn't cut it. NO ONE in the ancient world life was documented unless they were a king or someone important. Even people like Julius Caesar have huge chunks missing from their biographies.

And who is going to document Jesus when He lived? His fellow Jewish peasants? They were illiterate. Of the elites The Jewish priests viewed Christ as a heretic and the Romans as a rebel.

[loco73]

Re: A trick for converting secular-raised children

Hate to break it to you, friend, but those characters aren't real.

Sure Jesus isn't real. He's a myth just like Santa or Darth Wader. In fact the name 'Jesus' or 'Joshua' was very common in Bronze-Age Middle East and there were hundreds of 'Jesuses' and hundreds of Rabbi preachers migrating through the country. It's like the myth of Atlantis and also has got a book and a reality based core and many bed-times stories formed around over the centuries. So, it's even worse than Darth Wader.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: A trick for converting secular-raised children

Yes and he's as real as Santa or Little Red Riding Hood.

Hate to break it to you, friend, but those characters aren't real.

[loco73]

Re: A trick for converting secular-raised children

I tell them that Jesus is just like Santa Claus....

Yes and he's as real as Santa or Little Red Riding Hood.

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: A trick for converting secular-raised children

What? Are you serious? How about living a loving life that like Jesus? He didn't "trick" people into following him.

Their parents have tricked them into believing there is no God. I am just putting them straight with Jesus.

And why are you so concerned about the child/parent relationship? Jesus wasn't concerned by that. He knew the most important thing is to praise and follow Him.

Luke 14:26
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.


YIC

Jack

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: A trick for converting secular-raised children

What? Are you serious? How about living a loving life that like Jesus? He didn't "trick" people into following him.

Who's trying to trick anyone here, friend?

The Bible is not a trick.

[ransom]

Re: A trick for converting secular-raised children

I tend to first use the tactic of turning them against their parents. I have a collection of news cuttings of stories of adults who have tortured children. I read these out until the children are adequately distressed and tearful.

What? Are you serious? How about living a loving life that like Jesus? He didn't "trick" people into following him.

[Trent Harvey, Jr.]

Re: A trick for converting secular-raised children

Ever played a game of "telephone"? Where you pass on a message via whispers from ear to ear, until the end result is so disported it has nothing to do with the original message?

Great way to explain how false "translations" of the Bible are made. ("translations" - as if God is some kind of immigrant who can't learn English!)

[Roberta]

Re: A trick for converting secular-raised children

Like peacocks with the brightest feathers

Those gayly colored strutters dominated Key West.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: A trick for converting secular-raised children

How about some tasty cupcakes?

Pinkie Pie, is that you?

I suppose that little story about Pinkie Pie and the Rainbow Gash cupcakes could convert a child to something. I'm just not sure what.

[Nobar King]

Re: A trick for converting secular-raised children

How about some tasty cupcakes?

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

Re: A trick for converting secular-raised children

Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer as an explanation of how evolution doesn't work:

Rudolf is a mutant. His mutation is a disadvantage, his potential mates shun him. Since he won't produce children to pass on his glowing-nose genes to, he's an evolutionary dead end. His genetic traits are ill-adapted to his environment. He is not fitted to his environment, and it's survival of the fittest (to your environment).

Then one snowy Christmas eve, we see that the environment has changed, meaning the genes best fitted to the environment change too. Now Rudolf suddenly has an evolutionary advantage in his glowing nose. He gets lots of mates and "goes down in history" by producing lots of children, many of whom also have glowing noses. Like peacocks with the brightest feathers, the glowiest noses-reindeer get the most mates, and soon we have an entirely new species of glowy-nosed north pole dwelling reindeer.

Except for one problem: deer DON'T have glowing noses, which completely disproves evolution! Jesus 1, evolutionist conspiracy 0!

[Sally Paulson]

Re: A trick for converting secular-raised children

use this tactic on people who have been raised by secular parents.

We're not just talking about converting children, just people who were not exposed to religion as kids.

I think nostalgia is a powerful witnessing tool: "Remember back when you had an invisible friend, when Santa was always watching you, and there's a magic sugar-candy mountain that you'll see someday, and people you don't like get eaten by the monsters under the bed...."

See, EVERYONE knows what it's like to be religious. We just have to remind them.

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: A trick for converting secular-raised children

I tend to first use the tactic of turning them against their parents. I have a collection of news cuttings of stories of adults who have tortured children. I read these out until the children are adequately distressed and tearful.

I then read out passages from my KJV1611 about hell and point out that this is where their parents want them to go and get them to agree that mummy and daddy are worse than the horrid people in the newspapers.
'Do you think that mummy and daddy can really love you if they don't care if you get hurt real bad?'


Then I read about the glory of heaven where I want them to go.

Then I say 'So who are you going to trust? Naughty mummy and daddy or nice uncle Jack? '

It works every time,

YIC

Jack

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: A trick for converting secular-raised children

This. If someone wants to be WILLINGLY converted to a belief then they will come to you. Until then let them be.

I suppose you would allow a toddler to pull a pot of boiling water down over his own head from the stove, just because it was his will. You would allow him to do it for all eternity.

You are sick.