[Black Pinhead]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth." King James Version, (Genesis 1:28)

"Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable" (Leviticus 18:22)

Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion" (Romans 1:26-27).

There's more but answer me this one question, how does a person misinterpret these two verses? There's more verses in the bible that talks against homosexuality but that would keep me all day. Not once has God deemed this 2 be okay. It's true that r God is a loving God. He loves everone and that includes homosexuals.

Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died 4 us.

Leviticus 19:18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself: I am the Lord.

God still loves us no matter what sin we have committed. He also wants us 2 love everyone. Now, having said that, it doesn't mean that being gay is not a sin bec it is no matter how people try 2 look at it. I've heard the weak arguements that God created the gays so it must be okay. NO, IT'S NOT. That's like saying God created the child molesters, prostitutes and murders so it must be okay. GOD DIDN'T CREATE THEM. God created the pple. Homosexualality, child molesting, rapests, prostitution, those were NOT created by God.

Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image. In the image of God, created he him? male and female created he them.

If homosexuality was okay in God's eyes then why did he create male and female? Why not one sex?

We were also given free will. It is r choice on what we decide. We could choose the way God wants us live or we could choose the sinful life. Just bec God created the pple and some r homosexuals, doesn't mean he created homosexuality. I'm not looking 4 a debate, I am hoping 2 raise some understanding from some of the pple on this site. Thank u.

[MitzaLizalor]

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I knew that secularist education had the policy of not "imposing" arbitrary "values" such as how to read or what words mean so that the monsters it produces will vote for socialist candidates. But even the heathen evolutionist, I had thought, might be able to look at a word and type it into a search engine. An octopus can do as much!

I was wrong.

.. .. (irrelevant mumbo-jumbo) .. .. .. then: I'm a furry, I'm bisexual and have had sexual encounters with men. .. .. .. (more claptrap) .. ..
Homosexuality isn't a choice. If you think you can change that then you're even more stupid than I thought. I wish you all good luck in your search for salvation, even though I know you will never find happiness until you rid the world of everyone who disagrees with you. Have nice lives doing your religious bullcrap, I'm going to do my own thing and be happy about it.

There is even a thread Being Gay is a CHOICE: End of Discussion so you'd expect that to come up, even if nothing else did! Having abandoned God the pseudo-scientific humanist degenerates into superstition, sousing itself with liquor and abomination until there is nothing left, just as God taught us would happen. No wonder they're all sex perverts!

Hosea 4:11 Whoredom and wine and new wine take away the heart.
KJV . . . LOOK UP . . . CONTEXT

In that thread the same old non-arguments were trotted out as we're seeing here. Unsubstantiated, unattributed, wholly without merit. Before commenting the atheist should really have a look at some of their own material. I did, and posted what I found.

HERE IS THE POST

Since the pagan mind, or what's left of it, will be unlikely to follow much more than a single sentence I'll go that extra mile and post the sources. Again.

SOURCES:

journals:
• Archives of Sexual Behavior
• Archives of General Psychiatry
• Journal of Personality & Social Psychology
• Science
universities:
• Columbia University
• University of Utah
professional bodies:
• American Psychiatric Association

• people can change their “sexual orientation” from homosexual to heterosexual.
• There is no evidence at present to substantiate a biologic theory.
• there are no replicated scientific studies supporting any specific biological etiology for homosexuality.”
• Other recent developments also suggest that homosexuality is not genetically determined.
• effectively refutes the idea that homosexuality has a genetic basis.
• “This finding alone argues for the enormous importance of nongenetic factors influencing homosexuality,”
• other researchers tried to replicate his [Hamer's] study but failed.
• “We were not able to confirm evidence for an Xq28-linked locus underlying male homosexuality.”
• when another group of researchers…tried to replicate Hamer’s study, they too failed to find a genetic connection to homosexuality.
• the chain of reasoning (from biology to social policy [regarding homosexuality]), does not hold up under scrutiny.”

. . and since it'd be necessary to read on through the thread to reach that summary HERE'S A LINK TO IT

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I have no idea why any pervert would want to hang around a Church, maybe they'd like to switch the biscuits with some aphrodisiac-laced ones they'd prepared earlier? who knows. And more importantly, who cares? Aphrodisiacs do not work on Christians and we are able to identify sex-perverts from some distance. Even if you're not dressed as Donald Duck.

Galations 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
KJV . . . LOOK UP . . . CONTEXT

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

Banned? Banned for what? Banned for stating his opinion in the face of obvious ignorance?

No. Banned for joining a Christian church's private discussion forum, uninvited and unwelcome, and mocking the name of Jesus . . .

If you twist Our Lord and Saviour Jebus Christo's ...


Good night and Dog bless.

Just like you. I expect you will be leaving us soon, as well.

Piss off, troll.

Agreed. The Bible says that God created us all, and that we are all His children.

Chapter and verse, please.

If God loves all of His children then He must love homosexuals and bisexuals (like myself.)

Very nice logical fallacy, there.

It's a straw man argument. You are using a baseless and obviously false assumption (God loves all of His children) to support your assertion (God loves abominations like you).

Let's examine this logically.

The Bible tells us that the dead are unknowing (Ecclesiastes 9:5). Revelation 20-22 tells us about Judgment, when God will resurrect all the dead to immortal bodies! Then He will cast all nonbelievers and sinners of every sort into His Lake of Fire and burn them alive forever and ever.

Now, God could have chosen to leave them dead and unknowing. Instead, He tortures them for all time, for even the tiniest of sins.

Is that what you consider "love"?

What kind of a sick monster are you, anyway?

Why do I even bother arguing with the close-minded?

I ask myself the same question daily. I also wonder why the closed-minded join this forum.

[Bobby-Joe]

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Then why did you go on and on about the true meaning of Christianity and about what God really wants? So far, you have shown no more clarity of thought than the Landover Baptists have. At least they don't backpedal quite so furiously as you do.

Friend,

Please show us were we back peddle.

[Oliver Brendan Hayve]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

Why do I even bother arguing with the close-minded?

If your arguments so far are the best you can do, why do you bother?

I support Obama, and I was against the war on terror.

Um, okay.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/propublica/2012/06/is_obama_s_national_security_policy_any_different_from_bush_s_.html

I have never even said that I believe in God, because I don't.

Then why did you go on and on about the true meaning of Christianity and about what God really wants? So far, you have shown no more clarity of thought than the Landover Baptists have. At least they don't backpedal quite so furiously as you do.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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Oh and might I add that when I have kids I won't beat them into submission like you

You would spare yourself temporary discomfort, and let them suffer eternal pain? What kind of egocentric monster are you?!?

[BisexualFurry]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

Oh and might I add that when I have kids I won't beat them into submission like you

[Jack O'fagan]

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I have never even said that I believe in God, because I don't.

Your statement

I'm not the one contradicting the Bible, the Bible is open to interpretation. How do we know what God truly meant? Have you talked to Him? Have you heard His explanation from Him directly?

seemed to assume His Glorious existence.

[BisexualFurry]

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Then why do you drag Jesus into your sordid lifestyle? The things you seem to like and your opinions seem to match a more secular belief. If you just want to do what ever you want why do you feel the need for the LORD? You are rejecting Him with your lifestyle, why not reject Him completely?

YIC

Jack

I have never even said that I believe in God, because I don't.

[Jack O'fagan]

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Why do I even bother arguing with the close-minded? Atleast I don't control my wife and children with the fear of being hit. I am a democrat and proud of it, and I'm pro-abortion. I don't care what any of you people think because I know that you all are the minority in this country and will never truly accomplish anything worth while. You just preach about how you're better than everyone else and that I'm going to Hell, I'd be perfectly fine going there. Atleast in Hell the screams of my fellow sinners wouldn't make me sick to my stomach like your lies. I support Obama, and I was against the war on terror. It's people like you who make me sick. I'm a furry, I'm bisexual and have had sexual encounters with men. I respect the women in my life and if they were raped I'd support their choice to get an abortion. I have yet to see a post on this site that i have agreed with, and you all need to realize that you can't change me or anyone like me. Homosexuality isn't a choice. If you think you can change that then you're even more stupid than I thought. I wish you all good luck in your search for salvation, even though I know you will never find happiness until you rid the world of everyone who disagrees with you. Have nice lives doing your religious bullcrap, I'm going to do my own thing and be happy about it.

Then why do you drag Jesus into your sordid lifestyle? The things you seem to like and your opinions seem to match a more secular belief. If you just want to do what ever you want why do you feel the need for the LORD? You are rejecting Him with your lifestyle, why not reject Him completely?

YIC

Jack

[Brother Harold Porter]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

Homosexuality isn't a choice.

Well pumpkin, I'm living prood that it is. You see, I chose to pack mud with many thousands of anonymous strangers for nearly twenty years. All I remember is misery, disease and homelessness, as the wicked desire for the rectum completely ruined my life.

Then one day, I asked Jesus to come inside me, rather than yet another homoqueer, and I've been a happy, Christian, heterosexual married man from that moment forward. You can change too, but you have to want to be normal again.

In Christ

[Mary Etheldreda]

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Why do I even bother arguing with the close-minded? Atleast I don't control my wife and children with the fear of being hit. I am a democrat and proud of it, and I'm pro-abortion. I don't care what any of you people think because I know that you all are the minority in this country and will never truly accomplish anything worth while. You just preach about how you're better than everyone else and that I'm going to Hell, I'd be perfectly fine going there. Atleast in Hell the screams of my fellow sinners wouldn't make me sick to my stomach like your lies. I support Obama, and I was against the war on terror. It's people like you who make me sick. I'm a furry, I'm bisexual and have had sexual encounters with men. I respect the women in my life and if they were raped I'd support their choice to get an abortion. I have yet to see a post on this site that i have agreed with, and you all need to realize that you can't change me or anyone like me. Homosexuality isn't a choice. If you think you can change that then you're even more stupid than I thought. I wish you all good luck in your search for salvation, even though I know you will never find happiness until you rid the world of everyone who disagrees with you. Have nice lives doing your religious bullcrap, I'm going to do my own thing and be happy about it.

Of course homosexuality is a choice, just like murdering a tiny little human who has yet to develop separate toes on its little webbed footies. Homosexuals are not born that way!

[BisexualFurry]

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1 Cor. 6:9-10: Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

It looks as though you are, sunshine.

You don't have much faith in the Lord's ability to get His point across, do you? How hard can that be for an omnipotent Deity?

How do you know? You're the one lecturing us on the "true meaning of Christianity"; how do you know what that is? We have faith in God's Word. In what do you have faith — your own personal opinion of what God meant to say, which, amazingly, agrees with what you wanted to believe anyway?

Feel free to prove us wrong, using direct quotations from the King James Bible.

Why do I even bother arguing with the close-minded? Atleast I don't control my wife and children with the fear of being hit. I am a democrat and proud of it, and I'm pro-abortion. I don't care what any of you people think because I know that you all are the minority in this country and will never truly accomplish anything worth while. You just preach about how you're better than everyone else and that I'm going to Hell, I'd be perfectly fine going there. Atleast in Hell the screams of my fellow sinners wouldn't make me sick to my stomach like your lies. I support Obama, and I was against the war on terror. It's people like you who make me sick. I'm a furry, I'm bisexual and have had sexual encounters with men. I respect the women in my life and if they were raped I'd support their choice to get an abortion. I have yet to see a post on this site that i have agreed with, and you all need to realize that you can't change me or anyone like me. Homosexuality isn't a choice. If you think you can change that then you're even more stupid than I thought. I wish you all good luck in your search for salvation, even though I know you will never find happiness until you rid the world of everyone who disagrees with you. Have nice lives doing your religious bullcrap, I'm going to do my own thing and be happy about it.

[Jack O'fagan]

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I'm not the one contradicting the Bible,

Yes, you are.

the Bible is open to interpretation.

No, it's not.

How do we know what God truly meant? Have you talked to Him? Have you heard His explanation from Him directly?

Yes, 2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

I think your church (if you can even call it that...) is preach uninformed, ignorant, and hypocritical lies.

Ah, is diddums sad

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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I'm not the one contradicting the Bible,

1 Cor. 6:9-10: Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

It looks as though you are, sunshine.

the Bible is open to interpretation.

You don't have much faith in the Lord's ability to get His point across, do you? How hard can that be for an omnipotent Deity?

How do we know what God truly meant? Have you talked to Him? Have you heard His explanation from Him directly?

How do you know? You're the one lecturing us on the "true meaning of Christianity"; how do you know what that is? We have faith in God's Word. In what do you have faith — your own personal opinion of what God meant to say, which, amazingly, agrees with what you wanted to believe anyway?

I think your church (if you can even call it that...) is preach uninformed, ignorant, and hypocritical lies.

Feel free to prove us wrong, using direct quotations from the King James Bible.