[Larry Lee]

Re: 11 deadly sins of the Catholic Church

I know that no matter what I say I will not convince you that Catholicism is a religion that is no where near what you claim it to be, because your hearts and minds are not willing to see anything but your opinion. But I ask you this: LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR! Did you not get this from the Bible, because if you didn't, you must have skipped quite a bit of it. Is their another part of this religion besides just pointing fingers a everyone else. Jesus did not come on Earth to judge others- he dined with sinners, tax collectors, etc. If you truly want to follow Jesus, be compassionant towards others. Jesus died on the cross so that our sins would be forgiven. Jesus did not go the pagans or the prostitutes and say "sorry your going to hell and call them a bunch of names" if he does please share...

Dear friend, you arrive here at our Holy Board, and in your very first post, you accuse us of being judgmental towards Catlickers, in general, and possessors of a heart hardened towards you personally. Do we ask you for an apology, after receiving such slander? We do not. We simply turn the other check and rebuke you in the precious name of Jesus Christ (who alone sits at the Father's right hand), pointing out to you that your propensity to judge others will, likely, land you in the pit of flames. So, you can see how much we care for you in the Lord. I hope you will post some more.

[OmNefoolish_05]

Re: 11 deadly sins of the Catholic Church

This Cocaine-wine ad, for the same brand the Pope drank and endorsed, graphically shows the effects it has on innocent young people:



High on communion wine, legs spread and about to bend down over the altar. Disgusting.

Did you know that the original recipe for Coca Cola contained cocaine in it? So does that mean that cola should be hated and be considered evil?

[OmNefoolish_05]

Re: 11 deadly sins of the Catholic Church

Dear friend, you arrive here at our Holy Board, and in your very first post, you accuse us of being judgmental towards Catlickers, in general, and possessors of a heart hardened towards you personally.

Hmm, seems you are being pretty judgmental right in your first sentence towards "Catlickers". The religion is Catholic, which I am proud to be one.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: 11 deadly sins of the Catholic Church

Hmm, seems you are being pretty judgmental right in your first sentence towards "Catlickers". The religion is Catholic, which I am proud to be one.

Then you actually do worship satan.

Have you ever actually examined the papist cult's beliefs? How can you defend that?

CATHOLIC TRADITION - Call priests father, e.g., Father McKinley.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS -

Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Forbidding the priesthood to marry.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS -

1) It is devilish to forbid God's people to marry when He has given marriage to be received with thanksgiving.
1 Timothy
4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

2) Peter was married (remember the pope is supposedly continuing the apostolic line through Peter).

Matthew
8:14 And when Jesus was come into Peter's house, he saw his wife's mother laid, and sick of a fever.

Mark
1:30 But Simon's wife's mother lay sick of a fever, and anon they tell him of her.

Luke
4:38 And he arose out of the synagogue, and entered into Simon's house. And Simon's wife's mother was taken with a great fever; and they besought him for her.

3) Paul, a great apostle, remained single; however he made it very clear that he could marry if he wanted to.

1 Corinthians
9:5 Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, and as the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas?

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary never had other children after the Lord Jesus. A perpetual virgin.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Mary and Joseph indeed had children. They were the Lord's half brothers and sisters for their father was Joseph and mother was Mary.

Matthew
13:55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?
13:56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?
Mark
6:3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary is the queen of heaven.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Worshipping the queen of heaven (which is not the Mary of the Bible) is worshipping another god and it provokes the Lord to anger.

Jeremiah
7:17 Seest thou not what they do in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem?
7:18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.
7:19 Do they provoke me to anger? saith the LORD: do they not provoke themselves to the confusion of their own faces?

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary is the mother of God.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Mary is the mother of the earthly Jesus, not God. Jesus pre- existed from everlasting as God (see John 1:1). When He came to redeem mankind, He laid aside His glory and was made like unto sinful man so that He could take our punishment (Hebrew 2:9). God has no mother. He has lived from everlasting which means He had no beginning.

Isaiah
43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. [If Mary gave birth to God, she'd be God.]
Psalm
93:2 Thy throne is established of old: thou art from everlasting.

Micah
5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler [Jesus] in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

Philippians
2:6 Who [Jesus], being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Pope called Holy Father.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - The term Holy Father is only found one time in the entire Bible. It was when Jesus prayed before He and His disciples went to the garden of Gethsemane. He referred to God the Father as Holy Father. It is blasphemy to call a man by God's name

John
17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Purgatory, nuns, popes.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - None of these is mentioned in the Bible. It is a sin to add to the Bible.

Proverbs
30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
The pope is a man who takes upon himself honor which belongs to no human being. Even the very name by which he allows himself to be called (Holy Father) is highly presumptuous and blasphemous (see above).

One does not need the pope to determine what God's will is. The Bible says that God has given the Holy Ghost to each believer and that He (the Holy Ghost) guides and leads us into all truth. All a believer needs is the Bible and the Holy Ghost to know the will of the Lord. Popery has been treacherous, but worse, each pope has been the blind leading the blind. Jesus said that both will fall into the ditch. Catholics, come out of this system that cannot save and know Jesus for youself, intimate and up-close.

NOTE: Purgatory is supposedly a place where a person is purified of sins--even popes supposedly go there. The Bible says that Jesus Christ is the one that purifies us of our sins. Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus.... When a person dies their eternal home is sealed--heaven or hell--no in between. Hebrews 9:27 ...it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Venerating/worshipping images. Pope bows to statues of Mary, people worship the eucharist and have statues/candles in their homes and churches.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - It is idolatry to venerate images. We are not even supposed to make them.

Exodus
20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God...
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CATHOLIC TRADITION - The mass. Through transubstantiation, the wafer/host and the wine supposedly become the actual blood and body of Jesus Christ when the priest prays over them.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Jesus died once for sins, never to be repeated. He sits on the right hand of God and does not reappear in the mass as a mass of blood and flesh.

Hebrews
10:12 But this man [Jesus], after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
10:13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
10:15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
John
19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

1 Corinthians
11:24 And when he [Jesus] had given thanks, he brake it [bread], and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
11:25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
11:26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come (not for the forgiveness of sins or to receive Jesus).

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Saved, in part, by good works.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Good works are the fruits that grow out of being saved. They do not make you saved. An apple does not make its tree an apple tree, it was already an apple tree before any apples appeared. When you see the apples; however, you know what kind of tree it is. If a person is saved, he will shew forth good works because he has the spirit of Christ in him. The good works don't make him saved only the blood of Jesus can do that.

I John
1:7b ...the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
Acts 16:31b
...believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.

Romans
3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

What about James 2:20 "faith without works is dead"?

The kind of faith that saves is a faith that shows forth the works of God. Even devils believe in Jesus and tremble (James 2:19). Many people believe in Jesus but they won't follow Him. They have a faith, but not the kind that saves. If a person has true faith in Jesus, the Holy Ghost dwells in him and will cause good works will show forth in his life. The good works confirm the faith by which the person was saved. James 2:21-23 uses Abraham as an example. Abraham believed God so when God asked him to sacrifice his son Isaac, Abraham, out of his faith in God, offered up Isaac.


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CATHOLIC TRADITION - The church is founded on Peter.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Jesus Christ is the foundation of the church. Peter was a man like you and me. Jesus called Peter Satan in Matthew 16:23 when Peter rebuked Jesus dying. When Cornelius tried to worship Peter, Peter responded, "Stand up; I myself also am a man." (Acts 10:26). The pope needs to remember Acts 10:26 when he has men bowing to him and kissing his hand like he is worthy of worship.

1 Corinthians
3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
Matthew
21:42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected [Jesus], the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Confessing sins to a priest. Petitioning saints and Mary.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - We are to confess our sins and needs to God alone.

I John
1:9 If we confess our sins, he [God] is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Matthew
6:9, 12 After this manner...pray ye: Our Father... forgive us....

1 Timothy
2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus [not Mary, not saints, not priests, not the pope];

I John 2:1, ...And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.

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[OmNefoolish_05]

Re: 11 deadly sins of the Catholic Church

I dont see how me being Catholic makes me a Satan worshiper. If being Catholic means Im a devil worshiper, then why am I still accepted at my friend's Chrisitan church.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: 11 deadly sins of the Catholic Church

I dont see how me being Catholic makes me a Satan worshiper. If being Catholic means Im a devil worshiper, then why am I still accepted at my friend's Chrisitan church.

Your friend is no Christian if he allows a papist dog like you into his church.

There are millions of false Christians out there. You are doubly decieved.

[OmNefoolish_05]

Re: 11 deadly sins of the Catholic Church

My friend is a PK (Pastor's kid). He and his family have accepted me for who I am and have helped me in my greatest moments of weakness (physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually). I am like a member of their family and a member of their church for 5+ years.

[Nemisses]

Re: 11 deadly sins of the Catholic Church

Just a quick note on the cocaine tonic thing: u do know coca-cola was made with Cocaine until 1993 right?

[Warrior of God]

Re: 11 deadly sins of the Catholic Church

Just a quick note on the cocaine tonic thing: u do know coca-cola was made with Cocaine until 1993 right?

Wrong...
as per usual.

Any active cocaine ingredient was removed from the formula in 1903 Coca Cola used coca flavouring.
But, from
After 1904, Coca Cola started using, instead of fresh leaves, "spent" leaves - the leftovers of the cocaine-extraction process ,
Coca Cola uses as an ingredient a cocaine free Coca leaf extract.

These leaves are the waste product of the extraction process carried out by a pharmaceutical company , using legally imported coca leaves.
The leaves used for the coca cola syrup formula , are devoid of cocaine..
In just the same way decaff' is caff' free....

just another urban myth...
y'know , like the one that says atheists have a brain...

weird isn't it...
these atheistic heathens spout off about how they don't believe in a God that can be seen all about us,
yet they believe anny old piece of urban mythology and conspiracy junk some bubble-head tosses them at a dope party....

[Warrior of God]

Re: 11 deadly sins of the Catholic Church

am i right in believing that catholics are babtised as christians ok i may not be able to spell but i can learn but you will always be an arsehole

No , you're not right...


and

No , cathoholics are not baptised as christians..

First and foremost they arre baptised as Cathoholics.

That is why their church would not recognise any child baptised in another church.
Nor would they recognise any marriage in a church other than a cathoholic one.
In any marriage to a cathoholic , a non-cathoholic is expected to convert, after studying the roman faith.

first and foremost. they are cathoholics...

calling them christian is a contradiction in terms.

They are idolators beset with graven images..

[SDStoopid858]

Re: 11 deadly sins of the Catholic Church

Well we actually worship Jesus, not the devil, and yes, Catholicism is the earliest form of Christianity and which all other Christianity sects came from, while Catholicism came from Judaism.

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: 11 deadly sins of the Catholic Church

Well we actually worship Jesus, not the devil, and yes, Catholicism is the earliest form of Christianity and which all other Christianity sects came from, while Catholicism came from Judaism.

The notion that Cathylicks were the first Christians has been debunked so many times on this forum that I'm not going to even look it up for you. If you are truly interested in saving your immortal soul you will use the search function to educate yourself.

Cathylicks are Mary worshipers and false idolaters. Baptists were the first Christians and the Landover Baptist Church is the last remaining True Christian™ Church on the planet.

[SDStoopid858]

Re: 11 deadly sins of the Catholic Church

The Catholic Church traces its foundation to Jesus and the twelve Apostles. (Wikipedia)

Scholars see the Baptists as the descendants of the 16th century Anabaptists, which are viewed as a product of the Protestant Reformation. Johannes Warns states that the first independent Baptist Church was that at Augsburg, Germany, in about 1524.[13] Others see the Baptists as a separation from the Church of England in the early 1600s.[14]

Do you need more proof?

[John Bois Ward]

Re: 11 deadly sins of the Catholic Church

The Catholic Church traces its foundation to Jesus and the twelve Apostles. (Wikipedia)

Scholars see the Baptists as the descendants of the 16th century Anabaptists, which are viewed as a product of the Protestant Reformation. Johannes Warns states that the first independent Baptist Church was that at Augsburg, Germany, in about 1524.[13] Others see the Baptists as a separation from the Church of England in the early 1600s.[14]

Do you need more proof?

According to http://www.religionfacts.com/christi...atholicism.htm (I can reference a website too):

However, the idea of the "pope" did not exist from the beginning of the church. It was not until several centuries after Christ that the church began to develop into the "Roman Catholic Church" as we think of it today, with its particular doctrines, practices, and hierarchical system of authority.

i.e. man made.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Roman_Catholic_Church

The Roman Catholic Church does not claim, that Peter founded the Roman Community.

But traces its foundation to Jesus and the twelve Apostles?

Apostles but also numerous Christians, soldiers, merchants, preachers [30] traveled to northern Africa, Asia Minor, Arabia, Greece, and other places to found the first Christian communities,[31][32][33] and over 40 were established by the year 100.

Over 40 Christian communities established by the year 100.

[popeJP]

Re: 11 deadly sins of the Catholic Church

What are you talking about you fat man. We are anti-abortion and because you can;t tolerate other religions you are going to Hell. We are the one TRUE church.
God Bless Pope Benedict XVI