[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Kill!! - Its the Christian thing to do!

God punishes, not kills. He gave them life and so he takes it back. Its not murder, he wants the life he gave them back.

Well of course it's not muder if God does it. In fact God will kill most people!

“And the slain of the Lord shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried, they shall be dung upon the ground.” Jeremiah 25:33

[Warrior of God]

Re: Kill!! - Its the Christian thing to do!

God punishes, not kills. He gave them life and so he takes it back. Its not murder, he wants the life he gave them back.

That would seem to be a somewhat oversimplistic statement....

So, we will keep the reply just as simple...

God punishes, not kills...says Fred....

Google the folllowing...
The Deluge, or
The Flood , or
Noah..
Jericho.
Sodom and Gomorrah.
Pilllar of Salt...
Egypt, plagues therein...

let's just leave it there for now , while you consider your statement..

[Brother Guy Bayard]

Re: Kill!! - Its the Christian thing to do!

There is no translation problem in the Bible. If you dont know the Bible is the word of God. Yes i have read the first few posts. All it was saying was that there is an error in the Bible. God is infallible. God does not make mistakes. He had thou shalt not kill for a reason, and that reason is not so that you can say that its a translation problem and try to change what the Bible said. Trying to say there is something wrong with the Bible is blasphemy.

Fred - you, my friend, are a retard.
There are many differing translations of the Bible.
A 'translation' occurs when something that has been written in one language (something that foreigners 'speak' and 'write' ) is then 'translated' so it can be read in another language.
Are you with me so far, Freddyboy?
When the King James Version of the Bible was translated from Latin and published in 1611, it became the unerring word of God. In this translation, the 6th commanments reads "thou shalt do no murder'.
Later on other peoploe who hated Christ, like yourself, thought that they knew what God wanted to say better than God Himself had ALREADY STATED IN THE KJV1611 BIBLE.
These people changed words and their meanings around to come up with a message that SUITED THEM BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL INFALLIBLE KJV1611 BIBLE DID.
Thats why subsequent (mis)translations of the Bible say things like "you shall not kill"
BUT GOD DIDNT SAY THAT, DID HE? GOD SAID 'THOU SHALT DO NO MURDER"
sSo which Bible do you read Fred ? Gods Bible or some complete work of fiction that claims to be the word of God?
Which one, huh? Or can you even read? Is your mother typing for you?

[Parabola]

Re: Kill!! - Its the Christian thing to do!

I have to say, I am impressed with your arguments...

But then again, I think you're just a bunch of wussies. 'Cause if you weren't, you'd be walking around with an AK-47 every day, killing atheists, gays etc.

So... Enough with words, people! If you really want your God to love you, get the killing started!!!!!!

[Jean Poole]

Re: Kill!! - Its the Christian thing to do!

Unfortunately, Parboiled, secular law prevents us from doing such things.

Hebrews 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

1st Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
1st Peter 2:14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.
1st Peter 2:15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:

Of course, if you ever bothered to crack open a KJV1611 Bible, you would know this already. As soon as we get our Godly Theocracy into place, we shall live as God intended!

[Warrior of God]

Re: Kill!! - Its the Christian thing to do!

I have to say, I am impressed with your arguments...

But then again, I think you're just a bunch of wussies. 'Cause if you weren't, you'd be walking around with an AK-47 every day, killing atheists, gays etc.

So... Enough with words, people! If you really want your God to love you, get the killing started!!!!!!

Now there you go with generalisations...
Why is it when a know-nothing wants to make a posturing reference to an assault or battle rifle they always, always , reference that cheap piece of soviet bloc garbage.
Only benefit to an AK 47 son, is they were cheap as hell , and easily repaired or replaced ...

Only reason I ever used one was if we relied on enemy stocks for replenishing ammo..
Even then a little discernment was inorder
If you really want to go for an AK try to pick up an AK-107, or AK-108
the balanced automatic gas driven 'engine' system has 2 opposite moving gas pistons instead of one...main gas piston drives bolt carrier (via gas rod), secondary piston drives compensating mass (via its own rod)
in the direction, opposite to the bolt carrier. This greatly reduces muzzle jump , and increases accuracy in full-auto mode.
The 47 shoots like shit...Even a '74 would be a better grab.
Many of the AK clones out perform the original .
The Galil , though much maligned , and the Valmet / Sako Rk.95 were far better pieces of kit than the '47..

Personally, deny me my L96 , and I would opt for the FN-FAL, now that weapon was a work of art.. OK,, early models were susceptible to sand and crap. But later runs...mmmmmm'....
Heavier to lug about than the M16 ,but those rounds didn't know when to quit. Cut my teeth on one , still love them.
Anything hit stays hit..And the FN laughed at the average wall.
There was a really nice clone version produced in the USA the DSA-58OSW , now that was sweet...

But back to your comment, you should avoid sweeping generalisations when you don't know the history of the people you are talking to..
I would lay good money that I was dealing cathoholics and moooselems before you were born, and still doing so while you were struggling into long pants..

and...FYI... anyone who recommends the AK47 knows damn all about combat weapons.
The thing is a beggars weapon boy.
Resilient, yes , but not first league.

BTW...Your name raised a smile.

Try to stay out of God's hairs

[Parabola]

Re: Kill!! - Its the Christian thing to do!

Thank you for the gun info...

[AliceS]

Re: Kill!! - Its the Christian thing to do!

Luke 19:27
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me".

It says Thou shalt not kill, therefore anyone who kills is Jesus' enemy, and if you praise killing, you are praising his enemies and are in fact Jesus' enemy.
"which would not that I should reign over them"=which will not respect the commandments.

[Andreas Ivanschitz]

Re: Kill!! - Its the Christian thing to do!

Hi.


What i would like to point out is that if you think you should kill people, then the law is just an excuse. You will have plenty of opportunities to kill the atheists, gays etc. you find in prison!

[Brother Guy Bayard]

Re: Kill!! - Its the Christian thing to do!

It says Thou shalt not kill, therefore anyone who kills is Jesus' enemy, and if you praise killing, you are praising his enemies and are in fact Jesus' enemy.
"which would not that I should reign over them"=which will not respect the commandments.

Have you even read this thread?

[AliceS]

Re: Kill!! - Its the Christian thing to do!

Have you even read this thread?

Yes... have you?

[karaiskakis]

Re: Kill!! - Its the Christian thing to do!

Ok now i am sure. You guys are crazy...

You can kill in the name of Jesus???? Are you out of your mind.
You say you believe in Jesus. Has he ever killed anyone??? Are you not supposed to live and behave like he did???

[Brother Guy Bayard]

Re: Kill!! - Its the Christian thing to do!

Yes... have you?

You obviously haven't read this thread. Read it from the beginning. Understand the errors in subsequent transations of the Bible. Understand the significance of the difference in word meanings. Understand the distinction between words such as 'kill'and 'murder'.
Re-read the thread from the start.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Kill!! - Its the Christian thing to do!

Ok now i am sure. You guys are crazy...

You can kill in the name of Jesus???? Are you out of your mind.
You say you believe in Jesus. Has he ever killed anyone??? Are you not supposed to live and behave like he did???

And the slain of the Lord shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried, they shall be dung upon the ground.-- Jeremiah 25:33

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.--Luke 19:27

I [Jesus] will kill her children with death.-- Revelations 2:23

Have you ever actually read the Bible you ridiculous turk lover?

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Kill!! - Its the Christian thing to do!

God punishes, not kills. He gave them life and so he takes it back. Its not murder, he wants the life he gave them back.

Are you a Jew lawyer? "Yes, they're dead, and my client caused them to die, but he didn't kill them, so it's fine." You won't be able to Jew God on Judgement Day, you know.

It says Thou shalt not kill, therefore anyone who kills is Jesus' enemy, and if you praise killing, you are praising his enemies and are in fact Jesus' enemy.

Jesus kills people. How could He be His own enemy? Being His own Father is one thing, but being His own enemy would just be crazy and illogical.

Ok now i am sure. You guys are crazy...

You can kill in the name of Jesus???? Are you out of your mind.
You say you believe in Jesus. Has he ever killed anyone???

Revelation 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.