Was Jesus gay ?

[Mark Vi]

[The truth to end all truths]

I have put years (Hours) of logical thought into this one over the years, The truth of my statement is so amazingly right it eventually brought my old Religious Education teacher to tears. This is the only logical proof that makes sense, if we are to believe all that is in the Bible without question.


The Blindlingly Open Statement

"Jesus was gay"



"What?" I hear you say, let me say it again... Jesus was gay


The Uncontestable (but also unproveable reasoning)

The basic priciple of allmost all life forms on our planet is that their meaning of life is to reproduce, It is hardwired into the genetic structure of every living thing on our planet. This is also very true with the human race, the average person is born with the instinct to reproduce.

And then we have Jesus, A man gifted with the power of god. And yet all through his miserable life he never once seeked to procreate.... A little strange I think. A man who could turn water to wine, feed an entire army out of his arse................

And he died a virgin.........

But worse than that he chose to spend his time in the company of men at most times, his "disciples". No interest in women ? Dieing a virgin, wearing a tiara (made of thorns admitadly), a love for robes and womanly looking clothing.

Now I realise spending time with men doesn't logicly make one gay. But what are the views of the people regarding this idea. And with 'some' logical evidence as follows, Though I will admit I have never really studied the bible so my interpretations may be off slightly.

#In no point in the Bible is any evidence to Jesus's sexual orientation made.

#Mark 14:51-52 - Can someone explain to me what jesus was doing with a virtually naked boy just before he was arrested

# [The Key Point] , The full version of St Mark's Gospel which was found at the Mar Saba Monastary implies jesus has a sexual relationship with a boy. Why was this part of the Gospel removed. And does this sound hetrosexual to you....

And the youth, looking upon him (Jesus), loved him and beseeched that he might remain with him. And going out of the tomb, they went into the house of the youth, for he was rich. And after six days, Jesus instructed him and, at evening, the youth came to him wearing a linen cloth over his naked body. And he remained with him that night, for Jesus taught him the mystery of the Kingdom of God

Think about it logicly friends !

Jesus loved the cock !


Mark Vi

You'd never believe I actually studied History would you Well if theres one thing I learnt in my 5 years studying history is this.

It doesn't matter if my theory is complete and utter bullshit even in my OWN mind as long as theyr'e is some form of evidence based around it however miniscule it may be it's a possible and plausible theory .

Oh and if Jesus was gay ? And the Bible claims being gay is wrong, we can assume the whole thing is bullocks surely ! Or am I wrong

[Mark Vi]

Re: Was Jesus gay ?

Pastor Ezekiel

I see by my private message I have extremely offended yourself and possibly even god himself.

My apologies, and i'm not entirely sure what these infraction points mean. Or what the result of them is.

I would be happy to try and redeem myself How can I go about it ?

Mark Vi

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Was Jesus gay ?

Are you proud of yourself, homer? Coming into a Christian forum and mocking Jesus? Do you fancy yourself shocking to us? Does it make you feel big and important to spit on the only begotten son of God, who temporarily died for our sins?

[Mark Vi]

Re: Was Jesus gay ?

Are you proud of yourself, homer? Coming into a Christian forum and mocking Jesus? Do you fancy yourself shocking to us? Does it make you feel big and important to spit on the only begotten son of God, who temporarily died for our sins?

No,

I simply do not understand how if God is all powerfull over us why so much evil is in the world If god was allmighty, would we not live in a utopia ? And thats a question not a statement, so dont take offence.


Mark Vi

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Was Jesus gay ?

No,

I simply do not understand how if God is all powerfull over us why so much evil is in the world If god was allmighty, would we not live in a utopia ? And thats a question not a statement, so dont take offence.


Mark Vi

The things that you don't understand could fill a thousand buckets, I dare say.

If you don't understand something, the traditional way of gaining understanding is to investigate and ask, not make ridiculous and offensive claims.

Have you ever even opened a Bible? God created everything in the universe. Just because He created something, that doesn't make it "utopian" now does it?

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.--Isaiah 45:7

[Mark Vi]

Re: Was Jesus gay ?

The things that you don't understand could fill a thousand buckets, I dare say.

If you don't understand something, the traditional way of gaining understanding is to investigate and ask, not make ridiculous and offensive claims.

Have you ever even opened a Bible? God created everything in the universe. Just because He created something, that doesn't make it "utopian" now does it?

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.--Isaiah 45:7

I believe I may have roached one of those free bibles you get in hotel rooms once. But setting fire to it isn't the same as reading it I guesse. So no probably not

Though I am willing to learn, I shall read more on your site about the true ways of god and how to get my ass into Heaven.

Btw, one question that HAS puzzled me which you may be able to answer now your here.

Adam & Eve... If sex before marriage is a sin, how where they married without a priest ? I suppose God could have formalised their marriage but that was unlikely to happen after he threw them out of the garden of eden.

Anyway i'l stop asking things now before I get more infractiony point things



Marky Vi

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Was Jesus gay ?

Adam & Eve... If sex before marriage is a sin, how where they married without a priest ? I suppose God could have formalised their marriage but that was unlikely to happen after he threw them out of the garden of eden.

Anyway i'l stop asking things now before I get more infractiony point things



Marky Vi

You will not receive infraction points for asking respectful questions.

Adam and Eve were married by God himself. Read the Book of Genesis.

Now let me ask you a question; Why are you here? Just so you and your fag friends can giggle about going to hell?

[Mark Vi]

Re: Was Jesus gay ?

You will not receive infraction points for asking respectful questions.

Adam and Eve were married by God himself. Read the Book of Genesis.

Now let me ask you a question; Why are you here? Just so you and your fag friends can giggle about going to hell?

I dont have any gay friends, im slightly homophobic tbh.

I'm just curious to know your views as from looking at your threads you seem to be very well informed on the bible, if not maybe a little extremist. Though I suppose everyone can interpret the bible differently.

Which puzzles me as parts of the Bible i'm afraid baffle me... I dont know what part it's from (old testament?)

But part of the Bible implies that it would be better to let a stranger who stays in your house rape your daughter rather than offend him.... I mean seriously what the hell !!?


Mark Vi

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Was Jesus gay ?

I dont have any gay friends, im slightly homophobic tbh.

I'm just curious to know your views as from looking at your threads you seem to be very well informed on the bible, if not maybe a little extremist. Though I suppose everyone can interpret the bible differently.

Which puzzles me as parts of the Bible i'm afraid baffle me... I dont know what part it's from (old testament?)

But part of the Bible implies that it would be better to let a stranger who stays in your house rape your daughter rather than offend him.... I mean seriously what the hell !!?


Mark Vi

This is a typical misunderstanding held by many unsaved trash such as yourself. The problem is, you have heard a few rumors about what a few parts of the Holy Bible says, but you don't really know the details. Worse yet, most of what you've heard has come from one of the innumerable false Christian churches out there, so what little you know has been twisted horribly.

Until you accept Christ as your personal Savior, you have no chance of understanding the Holy Word of God. As long as you continue to mock God (as you are doing here), then you will never gain eternal Salvation and be Saved by the blood of Christ.

God foretold of your coming.

Jude 1:17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: Was Jesus gay ?

Though I suppose everyone can interpret the bible differently.

We don't "interpret" the Bible here. We just read it and believe it. "Interpreting" the Bible is what false-Christians do when they don't like the way a plain reading of the message interferes with their lives of sin.

The Bible warns us against trying to "interpret" its meaning.
2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Mark Vi]

Re: Was Jesus gay ?

This is a typical misunderstanding held by many unsaved trash such as yourself. The problem is, you have heard a few rumors about what a few parts of the Holy Bible says, but you don't really know the details. Worse yet, most of what you've heard has come from one of the innumerable false Christian churches out there, so what little you know has been twisted horribly.

Until you accept Christ as your personal Savior, you have no chance of understanding the Holy Word of God. As long as you continue to mock God (as you are doing here), then you will never gain eternal Salvation and be Saved by the blood of Christ.

God foretold of your coming.

Jude 1:17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

I am not mocking Jesus or God, Far from it.

I just fail to see why I should believe every word within a book written century's ago as if it where solid fact when if there was a god he has shown no sign to me of exhistance.

Dont get my wrong, I believe there may be some form of god, but as to what that is i'm undecided. The big bang theory doesn't quite cut it with me.... What created these gas's and molecules in the first place if all there was, was a void.

Marky Vi

[Harold Law]

Re: Was Jesus gay ?

I have never heard something so stupid. I suppose you also think the WTC was a controlled demolition? I happened to have found a picture of you on the internet, I wanted everyone to see where all this infinite wisdom comes from

[One-eyed Jack]

Re: Was Jesus gay ?

Sigh.

I don't want to step on the good Pastor Ezekiel's toes, but the Spirit moves me to respond.

Look, Mark Vi, there is one Bible. It is the King James Version, sometimes called the Authorized Version. The Bible, the KJV, is of divine authorship...its Author being God.

God's Book does not include whatever is scratched on a lavatory wall in the Mar Saba monastery.

Now, be reasonable: the Romans were out to get Jesus. So were the Pharisees. Homosexuality was a crime. Did they accuse Him of being a faggort?

Nope. That was one thing they didn't say.

God was pretty clear on what ought to be done with homers.

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:13

Jesus was the incarnation of God upon Earth.

My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them [ie, Jesus' followers] out of my Father's hand.

I and my Father are one. John 10:29, 30

Now, it simply don't make a whale of a lot of sense that the blessed God upon Earth would incarnate Himself as something that He had already figured as an abomination worthy of death.

Sheesh!

I swan to goodness, Mark Vi, you might at least bring a reasonable or at least remotely plausible slander against Lord Jesus.

You could have said that the Bible approves of religious war.

For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. Romans 13:4

You could have accused Jesus of spreading family discord and hatred.

If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. Luke 14:26

You could even have accused Him of being cruel and merciless, for when He comes again it is written that men will be tormented --

And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them. Revelation 9:6

Again, SHEESH! At least come up with a serious observation, and not just a trendy fairytale from the congregations of fairies.

~~ OEJ

[Ahimaaz Smith]

Re: Was Jesus gay ?

I am not mocking Jesus or God, Far from it.

Jesus is God. There's no "or" about it.

We don't go around on athiesm boards posting things like, "All atheists are fags and lesbos!" I don't see how you can say that kind of thing is anything other than mockery.

I just fail to see why I should believe every word within a book written century's ago as if it where solid fact

(1) Because it is solid fact.
(2) Because if you sincerely ask the Lord for guidance, he will let you know the truth in your heart, not just in your head.
(3) Because spending eternity burning in Hell really sucks.

if there was a god he has shown no sign to me of exhistance.

You know, you remind me of the man that lived by the river. He heard a radio report that the river was going to rush up and flood the town. And that all the residents should evacuate their homes. But the man said, “I’m religious. I pray. God loves me. God will save me.”

The waters rose up. A guy in a row boat came along and he shouted, “Hey, hey you! You in there. The town is flooding. Let me take you to safety.” But the man shouted back, “I’m religious. I pray. God loves me. God will save me.”

A helicopter was hovering overhead. And a guy with a megaphone shouted, “Hey you, you down there. The town is flooding. Let me drop this ladder and I’ll take you to safety.” But the man shouted back that he was religious, that he prayed, that God loved him and that God will take him to safety.

Well... the man drowned. And standing at the gates of St. Peter, he demanded an audience with God. “Lord,” he said, “I’m a religious man, I pray. I thought you loved me. Why did this happen?” God said, “I sent you a radio report, a helicopter, and a guy in a rowboat. What the hell are you doing here?”

God has shown you a sign of His existence. He led you to us! If you'll let us, we will drop you a ladder called the Bible and guide you to safety, but we can't do it without you.

Dont get my wrong, I believe there may be some form of god, but as to what that is i'm undecided.

Then please at least give us a chance to explain our views in a mutually respectful way. What do you have to lose?

The big bang theory doesn't quite cut it with me.... What created these gas's and molecules in the first place if all there was, was a void.

Exactly! Before I was saved I studied evolutionary biology in college. Not just one class, that was my major (True story!). The more I learned, the more I realized that the so called "scientific" point of view had more holes in it than a sieve. If you ask one group of astronomers, they'll say the universe is 21 billion years old. You ask another, they'll say it's only 11 billion years old. If their theories are right, then how can they be off by 10 billion years?

I'm not joking about this, BTW. See THIS article in Space.com, which isn't exactly a Christian friendly publication. There a single group of astronomers said the universe could be 11 billion years old or it could be 20. Or, they say, there's a 5% chance it could be even younger or older.

To top it off, when you ask scientists, "Where did everything come from?," all they do is give you some smug answer like "that's not a scientific question." What they're really saying is either "I don't know and I don't care" or "if I talk about that in class I'll lose my job." Trust me on this, you've already figured out something (that universes don't magically appear from nothing) that 95% of scientists either haven't or (more likely) are too scared to admit.

[Mark Vi]

Re: Was Jesus gay ?

Eh, what do you mean Jesus IS God....

Last time my unreligious head had a think about it he was the 'Son' of God was he not ?

And yes brother prehaps you could teach me the ways of the Bible, Though I really dont think there's a lot of point.... If you sin you are going to hell right ? WELL..... I've got quite the list !!

#I live with my parnter but am not married.
#Drugs... Did Jesus say no to drugs ? He probably did
#Blasphoumy(sp) ? lol
#I had a go at Voodoo in my younger years... Does that make me a Heretic ?
#Does peeing on a church class a Sin ?
#And soooo many more that I cant type as im on a work's PC lol.


So as you can see, Im pretty much buggered


Mark Vi