[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: A Fake Illness and a Lame Excuse for Laziness

Satan is promoting colonic irrigation. Why? I have no idea. God is absolutely clear that prayer is the solution for all ailments. Not just some ailments. All ailments. The enormity of invasive therapies, especially those involving the colon, seek to prevent God's retribution in response to the whoredoms He detests so much.

Some secular scientists speculate that Jehoram may have suffered from colorectal carcinoma. No amount of chemotherapy or radiation therapy or surgery would have saved him, however, once God had determined to slowly disembowel him for committing idolatry. Repentance and prayer would have been his only shot at averting this gruesome fate.

Jas 5:16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

Disease is not a failure of the body or the mind or medicine. It is failure of righteousness and communion with God. By God's grace, I am quite certain that my bowels will never fall out. I like to imagine that when the time comes for me to depart this earthly life, I will not suffer a protracted, painful death. If all disease is result of sin and curable by prayer, it must be possible for a saint to have no discernible medical cause of death, to have died simply because his soul has been removed from an otherwise perfectly healthy body and transported to Heaven.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: A Fake Illness and a Lame Excuse for Laziness

The development of symptoms when reclining which are relieved by going to sleep?

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: A Fake Illness and a Lame Excuse for Laziness

Orthostatic intolerance Don't know what that is, so it's probably fake too

Brother Dr Pendergast, I had to look that up. Guess what? It is described (by Wikipedia, a source greatly favored by the Godless pseudoscientists who plague these forums) as:

the development of symptoms when standing upright which are relieved when reclining

Did anyone ever see a more concise definition of laziness?

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: A Fake Illness and a Lame Excuse for Laziness

––4...Digestive disturbances Possibly genuine, but nothing that can't be fixed by prayer…

Satan is promoting colonic irrigation. Why? I have no idea. God is absolutely clear that prayer is the solution for all ailments. Not just some ailments. All ailments. The enormity of invasive therapies, especially those involving the colon, seek to prevent God's retribution in response to the whoredoms He detests so much.

II Chronicles 21:12b-15 Thus saith the LORD God of David thy father, Because thou hast not walked in the ways of Jehoshaphat thy father, nor in the ways of Asa king of Judah, but hast walked in the way of the kings of Israel, and hast made Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem to go a whoring, like to the whoredoms of the house of Ahab, and also hast slain thy brethren of thy father's house, which were better than thyself: Behold, with a great plague will the LORD smite thy people, and thy children, and thy wives, and all thy goods: And thou shalt have great sickness by disease of thy bowels, until thy bowels fall out by reason of the sickness day by day.

[BrotherLarry]

Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: A Fake Illness and a Lame Excuse for Laziness

God is not impressed with lazy people. In Amos chapter 6 verse 1 we are warned about being at ease. This is not referring to soldiers because God loves soldiers.

Do you have any idea how many times the word work appears in the Bible? I will tell you. Between 420 and 3836 times depending on how carefully you count. That should tell you how Jesus values those of us who press forward instead of moping about every little pain and ache. Did Jesus mope on the Cross of Cavalry?

It is even a part of our Salvation(r). Read Phil 2:12. To all who make excuses instead of getting on with service to God I say WOE to you on His terrible Day of Reckoning. WOE!!!!

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: A Fake Illness and a Lame Excuse for Laziness

I would like to ask you what your opinion is on people who need pain medication in order to function.

There is no such thing. All pain can be taken away by prayer (Matthew 21:22, John 9:31, Luke 18:27). People who "need" medication actually need to throw those away and study their Bibles instead. Otherwise they will burn in Hell for all eternity and no amount of pills will reduce your suffering there.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: A Fake Illness and a Lame Excuse for Laziness

Originally Posted by blizzard2014

Sorry, I shortened the quote because it was so long. I'm not saying that there are some psychosomatic disorders out there. There definitely are, but Orthostatic Intolerance is real. It's been proven and it is something I would call nuts if it weren't for the fact that I also suffer from a variant of this condition. I have stroke level blood pressure upon standing, high heart rate, and it remains this way until I sit back down. All documented many times at the docs. On meds, I still have a spike, but not enough to cause dizziness and shortness of breath. The other side of this coin are those who have a severe drop in blood pressure when they stand up and it causes them to faint. This is very real and it can be treated in a lot of cases with sodium and intravenous fluids. I wouldn't call pain and fatigue laziness either. Due to a badly damaged leg and heart from huge blood clots that I had for six months, I suffer a lot. I go to work sometimes with full on flu-like symptoms and am so sore I have to literally fight to get my job done. As a consequence, I only work part time. I cannot tell you what day I will be able to go into work and rock and roll and work like a machine (just like I used to when I worked 12 hour days in the factory, and 24 hour straight driving days as a truck driver)! One day It takes 5 hours of labor to be completely jacked up to the point where I feel and walk like a 90 year old man, and another day I wake up like this and still go to work, just work slower and take more time. I have a job where I show up and do my job however long it takes (I am paid a set amount of hours and that is it whether I work shorter or longer). If the work is not done properly, the customer will call in and complain. In 1 year of service, I have had zero complaints. I even went to work with failing kidneys, 2 weeks of intermittent severe gallbladder attacks, to the point of not even being safe to drive. On the last day before hospitalization, I was close to collapsing with very low kidney function from throwing up and not eating or drinking. I had to take 30 unplanned days off of work due to the surgery to remove the gallbladder and the recovery time. Being super man and fighting illnesses does not make it go away or make you a man. I wish I could have the body I had before the blood clots and go back to being a full time truck driver. But it appears as if God needed to allow this to happen in order to get my attention and get my life moving in another direction. Diabetes is real, I have it. I have 150 blood sugar in the morning even on days when I eat no carbs or sugar. Sleep apnea is real, I have that as well. Enlarged heard from it being overworked from huge blood clots blocking the arteries in the lungs is real and causes issues. But I do agree some illnesses can be spiritual in nature and an attack on the person for not living right. But to say it all comes from laziness. That is simply not the case.

I would like to ask you what your opinion is on people who need pain medication in order to function. I have chronic pain and could work more hours on meds. Now that they are cutting everyone off, I have had to cut back on my hours. I have an understanding boss and he gives me all the smaller jobs that no one wants. I have no real supervision, no time card, I just show up after 5 PM, clean one of the many buildings I am assigned to and never have any complaints. I have only missed 1 day in a years time except for the 30 days for a failing gallbladder. I used to work 12 hours a day 5 days a week and sometimes 24 hours straight driving. I'm no stranger to work, but once they body goes out, it is gone. You can still work, but you're never going to be like you once were without a miracle from the Lord. I was so bad before my Orthostatic Intolerance was diagnosed that I could not even handle standing in line at the DVT to wait for 30 minutes to renew my commercial drivers license. I just gave it up. Then 3 months later I discovered why I was feeling like death every time I was on my feet. I had 170/120 and higher BP with a heart rate of 150 BPM when standing. I had been out of work for a while battling blood clots that to this day leave my right leg only functional at 50 percent. I can't walk fast, cannot run, have to use my arms to lower to the toilet, have to limp up and down stairs with my left leg only. My right leg cannot support my body sufficiently to climb no matter how much I try and exercise it. The strength and function had been gone for over seven years now. I can only handle part time heavy work as a janitor. But I think I can re-train for a desk job though. So that is what I will be doing eventually. You need college for that, so I will go back to college. Does that make me lazy because I can no longer push a mop around? I used to drive from LA to Detroit in 47 hours. Got some sleep in there too. Then from Detroit to Louisiana non-stop after 4 hours of sleep in a parking lot. I was the highest earning driver for the small company I worked for. I worked for 6 months straight before I took a few days off at home. But when your body fails you, you can fight all you want, you will never be what you once were. I am living proof of that.

The Bible explains that God heals everyone who has faith in Him. This point was covered as early as the twelfth post and I don't need to rehash Christ's own words. "Whatsoever" does not exclude afflictions of the innards and "any thing" does not mean just some things. "That I will do" doesn't mean will not. do and "I will do it" does not mean maybe I'll think about it but then again maybe not.

Jn 14:12-14 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

You don't have to believe The Bible or even accept that Jesus was a real person. But you can't deny what The Bible contains or pretend Christ's teaching was other than it is reported to be. Well, you could. in the same way that air could be denied. So we know what The Bible teaches us.

If you do not agree with The Bible there are consequences. God describes a variety of health outcomes for contradicting Him. Additionally, because He loves us and wants to prevent us from suffering unnecessarily, He has explained what happens to people who reject His love. It's severe. Really severe. The Bible spells out some of the torments but yours is more a question of faith. Sometimes the elders of the Church need to be involved and this aspect also has been covered, in the sixty-sixth post.

James 5:14 "Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:"

Mark 16:18 "They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."

Once again, "they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover" does not mean recover if there's an R in the month or if you take loads of medicine or visit a hypnotist. These are fairly simple points and have been addressed already. Of course if you think God doesn't exist then you'd have a different explanation for infirmity and recovery.

Christians however believe Christ's teachings on the subject and need look no further than that.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: A Fake Illness and a Lame Excuse for Laziness

I would like to ask you what your opinion is on people who need pain medication in order to function. I have chronic pain and could work more hours on meds. Now that they are cutting everyone off, I have had to cut back on my hours. I have an understanding boss and he gives me all the smaller jobs that no one wants. I have no real supervision, no time card, I just show up after 5 PM, clean one of the many buildings I am assigned to and never have any complaints. I have only missed 1 day in a years time except for the 30 days for a failing gallbladder. I used to work 12 hours a day 5 days a week and sometimes 24 hours straight driving. I'm no stranger to work, but once they body goes out, it is gone. You can still work, but you're never going to be like you once were without a miracle from the Lord.


I was so bad before my Orthostatic Intolerance was diagnosed that I could not even handle standing in line at the DVT to wait for 30 minutes to renew my commercial drivers license. I just gave it up. Then 3 months later I discovered why I was feeling like death every time I was on my feet. I had 170/120 and higher BP with a heart rate of 150 BPM when standing. I had been out of work for a while battling blood clots that to this day leave my right leg only functional at 50 percent. I can't walk fast, cannot run, have to use my arms to lower to the toilet, have to limp up and down stairs with my left leg only. My right leg cannot support my body sufficiently to climb no matter how much I try and exercise it. The strength and function had been gone for over seven years now. I can only handle part time heavy work as a janitor. But I think I can re-train for a desk job though. So that is what I will be doing eventually. You need college for that, so I will go back to college. Does that make me lazy because I can no longer push a mop around? I used to drive from LA to Detroit in 47 hours. Got some sleep in there too. Then from Detroit to Louisiana non-stop after 4 hours of sleep in a parking lot. I was the highest earning driver for the small company I worked for. I worked for 6 months straight before I took a few days off at home. But when your body fails you, you can fight all you want, you will never be what you once were. I am living proof of that.

I think that laziness has a firm Biblical basis that you ignore.

Proverbs 12:24 "The hand of the diligent will rule, But the lazy man will be put to forced labor

So rather than wasting time studying so called science, if you really want to make amends for whatever sin you or someone close to you committed that caused Jesus to smite you with the laziness you SHOULD pick up that mop, go to your local Baptist Church and pray that Jesus will let you sweep His house clean.

Jesus created the entire Universe some 6000 years ago: the least that you could do is pick up a gosh darn mop.

YIC

Edit: I hope all of your references to a mop is not so homersexualisticalism gaywise slang for a male’s penile member

[Brother Gonzalez]

Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: A Fake Illness and a Lame Excuse for Laziness

I would like to ask you what your opinion is on people who need pain medication in order to function. I have chronic pain and could work more hours on meds. Now that they are cutting everyone off, I have had to cut back on my hours. I have an understanding boss and he gives me all the smaller jobs that no one wants. I have no real supervision, no time card, I just show up after 5 PM, clean one of the many buildings I am assigned to and never have any complaints. I have only missed 1 day in a years time except for the 30 days for a failing gallbladder. I used to work 12 hours a day 5 days a week and sometimes 24 hours straight driving. I'm no stranger to work, but once they body goes out, it is gone. You can still work, but you're never going to be like you once were without a miracle from the Lord.


I was so bad before my Orthostatic Intolerance was diagnosed that I could not even handle standing in line at the DVT to wait for 30 minutes to renew my commercial drivers license. I just gave it up. Then 3 months later I discovered why I was feeling like death every time I was on my feet. I had 170/120 and higher BP with a heart rate of 150 BPM when standing. I had been out of work for a while battling blood clots that to this day leave my right leg only functional at 50 percent. I can't walk fast, cannot run, have to use my arms to lower to the toilet, have to limp up and down stairs with my left leg only. My right leg cannot support my body sufficiently to climb no matter how much I try and exercise it. The strength and function had been gone for over seven years now. I can only handle part time heavy work as a janitor. But I think I can re-train for a desk job though. So that is what I will be doing eventually. You need college for that, so I will go back to college. Does that make me lazy because I can no longer push a mop around? I used to drive from LA to Detroit in 47 hours. Got some sleep in there too. Then from Detroit to Louisiana non-stop after 4 hours of sleep in a parking lot. I was the highest earning driver for the small company I worked for. I worked for 6 months straight before I took a few days off at home. But when your body fails you, you can fight all you want, you will never be what you once were. I am living proof of that.

Dear, either God does not exist, or God made you this way. He does everything.
So start asking yourself what you have done to be struck with all the diseases. Pray for forgiveness.

[Isabella White]

Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: A Fake Illness and a Lame Excuse for Laziness

Dear Miss Blizzard: Greetings in ' precious Name, and to our assembly, here at . We are happy that you have found your way here to seek fellowship with us. Most importantly, we pray that you have decided to seek the . I should mention that we are a "no nonsense" group of believers here. You will find that all of our Scriptural references come from the . We do not use any of those other watered-down versions, and we do not cherry-pick our favorite verses whilst ignoring others.

As is customary with our new visitors, we extend an invitation to you to make a statement of introduction, at our Introduction Forum. You will find that linked below, and you can write your message to us by clicking on the blue "New Thread" button on the upper-left side of your screen.

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I'd like to leave you with a Scriptural verse of particular significance, and one that you must consider very seriously: Romans 6:23 " For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." May richly bless you as you find here, at . We look forward to getting to know you! A blessed day to you, Dear. Sincerely, Isabella W.

[Dennis Lukes]

Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: A Fake Illness and a Lame Excuse for Laziness

[long, long, post]

Hello there. I'm not denying that chronic pain exists, but you've swallowed the lies of the atheist medical establishment. Read Job 14:22 and Job 33:19. God sends us pain to chastise us for wrongdoing. What have you done to anger Jesus? Why does He feel the need to punish you? You need to reflect on your sins, read Romans 8:18 for encouragement, and get on your creaky knees and BEG Jesus for mercy. The excruciating pain He went through at the hands of the Jews and on the cross is beyond your imagining.

[blizzard2014]

Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: A Fake Illness and a Lame Excuse for Laziness

As a small businessman, I can tell you one of my biggest expenses is LAZY EMPLOYEES TRYING TO DODGE AN HONEST DAY'S WORK. And there is no bigger excuse than "Chronic Fatigue Syndrome," the official-sounding "Medicalese" name for "I feel like sitting on my ass today and collecting a paycheck as some kind of God-given right for being a lazy waste of space." Lazy sick days are like the scourge of so-called "Unemployment Insurance"-- a lavish, prepaid vacation for freeloaders. Claiming a medical reason is just another way to get government involved in the sacred contract between an employee and the employer. And Big, Intrusive Government (BIG) does not solve anyone's problems; it merely subsidizes them.

Ever notice that people who claim to be afflicted with "Chronic Fatigue Syndrome" are also fat and ugly? That's because losers who never gained the admiration or attraction of others (not to mention the grace of a loving yet vengeful and smiting God) will always come up with an EXCUSE for their horrible physcial and character disfigurement.

DISGUSTING!!

I would like to ask you what your opinion is on people who need pain medication in order to function. I have chronic pain and could work more hours on meds. Now that they are cutting everyone off, I have had to cut back on my hours. I have an understanding boss and he gives me all the smaller jobs that no one wants. I have no real supervision, no time card, I just show up after 5 PM, clean one of the many buildings I am assigned to and never have any complaints. I have only missed 1 day in a years time except for the 30 days for a failing gallbladder. I used to work 12 hours a day 5 days a week and sometimes 24 hours straight driving. I'm no stranger to work, but once they body goes out, it is gone. You can still work, but you're never going to be like you once were without a miracle from the Lord.


I was so bad before my Orthostatic Intolerance was diagnosed that I could not even handle standing in line at the DVT to wait for 30 minutes to renew my commercial drivers license. I just gave it up. Then 3 months later I discovered why I was feeling like death every time I was on my feet. I had 170/120 and higher BP with a heart rate of 150 BPM when standing. I had been out of work for a while battling blood clots that to this day leave my right leg only functional at 50 percent. I can't walk fast, cannot run, have to use my arms to lower to the toilet, have to limp up and down stairs with my left leg only. My right leg cannot support my body sufficiently to climb no matter how much I try and exercise it. The strength and function had been gone for over seven years now. I can only handle part time heavy work as a janitor. But I think I can re-train for a desk job though. So that is what I will be doing eventually. You need college for that, so I will go back to college. Does that make me lazy because I can no longer push a mop around? I used to drive from LA to Detroit in 47 hours. Got some sleep in there too. Then from Detroit to Louisiana non-stop after 4 hours of sleep in a parking lot. I was the highest earning driver for the small company I worked for. I worked for 6 months straight before I took a few days off at home. But when your body fails you, you can fight all you want, you will never be what you once were. I am living proof of that.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: A Fake Illness and a Lame Excuse for Laziness

Jesus doesn't like whiners, dear. But if you pray and are sincere, He may just heal you! He's healed me of other things like a terrible sinus infection I had last week, because He loves me and I love Him!

Thank you Jesus! Thank you for loving me and calling me your Beloved! Thank you for waking me up this morning and not killing me in my sleep as you have every right to do! Thank you for not smiting my children, even the really obnoxious ones who are trying to turn my hair gray (you know the ones I'm talking about)! Thank you for showing me You love me in the tiny little everyday things that happen, even if my sister does call them silly coincidences at best, I know they are GOD-incidences!


Glory!


\0/

[blizzard2014]

Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: A Fake Illness and a Lame Excuse for Laziness

You may have heard of chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS), sometimes also known as myalgic encephalomyelitis (ME), post-viral fatigue syndrome (PVFS) or chronic fatigue immune dysfunction syndrome (CFIDS). It's the perfect illness to fake if you don't want to work. Simply mimic a collection of vague, subjective symptoms, shop around for a doctor who will give you the diagnosis you want, and sit back and watch your Social Security money roll in.

Sorry, I shortened the quote because it was so long. I'm not saying that there are some psychosomatic disorders out there. There definitely are, but Orthostatic Intolerance is real. It's been proven and it is something I would call nuts if it weren't for the fact that I also suffer from a variant of this condition. I have stroke level blood pressure upon standing, high heart rate, and it remains this way until I sit back down. All documented many times at the docs. On meds, I still have a spike, but not enough to cause dizziness and shortness of breath. The other side of this coin are those who have a severe drop in blood pressure when they stand up and it causes them to faint. This is very real and it can be treated in a lot of cases with sodium and intravenous fluids. I wouldn't call pain and fatigue laziness either. Due to a badly damaged leg and heart from huge blood clots that I had for six months, I suffer a lot. I go to work sometimes with full on flu-like symptoms and am so sore I have to literally fight to get my job done. As a consequence, I only work part time. I cannot tell you what day I will be able to go into work and rock and roll and work like a machine (just like I used to when I worked 12 hour days in the factory, and 24 hour straight driving days as a truck driver)!


One day It takes 5 hours of labor to be completely jacked up to the point where I feel and walk like a 90 year old man, and another day I wake up like this and still go to work, just work slower and take more time. I have a job where I show up and do my job however long it takes (I am paid a set amount of hours and that is it whether I work shorter or longer). If the work is not done properly, the customer will call in and complain. In 1 year of service, I have had zero complaints. I even went to work with failing kidneys, 2 weeks of intermittent severe gallbladder attacks, to the point of not even being safe to drive. On the last day before hospitalization, I was close to collapsing with very low kidney function from throwing up and not eating or drinking. I had to take 30 unplanned days off of work due to the surgery to remove the gallbladder and the recovery time. Being super man and fighting illnesses does not make it go away or make you a man. I wish I could have the body I had before the blood clots and go back to being a full time truck driver. But it appears as if God needed to allow this to happen in order to get my attention and get my life moving in another direction.


Diabetes is real, I have it. I have 150 blood sugar in the morning even on days when I eat no carbs or sugar. Sleep apnea is real, I have that as well. Enlarged heard from it being overworked from huge blood clots blocking the arteries in the lungs is real and causes issues. But I do agree some illnesses can be spiritual in nature and an attack on the person for not living right. But to say it all comes from laziness. That is simply not the case.

[Dana723]

Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: A Fake Illness and a Lame Excuse for Laziness

It's not really an excuse to be lazy if you have cfs, because it is real. And because of my condition, I quit my job and trying to understand how to live my life with it. I dont have enough money to under go treatment or for medication, but I did some research and I have read many articles about cannabis and how it can help you in terms of chronic pain, bone injuries, eating disorder/anorexia, anxiety disorders and panic attacks, inflammation, even cancer and a lot more. Like this article ***a link containing psychedelic kiddie porn removed by moderator***. Cbd and thc are also new to me and I don’t even smoke. Alternatively, they’ve also found new ways to infuse cannabis on food and beverages. If this is true I can’t find any solid conclusive evidence that speaks to its efficacy. Any personal experience or testimonial would be highly appreciated. Thanks

I was feeling tired, and one of my so-called friends tried to tell me I had chronic fatigue syndrome. When I told my husband that, he spanked me and told me that if I ever tried that again, he would make me *wish* I did have that made up disease! It worked, and I've never been lazy again in my life. Perhaps that would work for you?