[James Dewitt]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

The holy scripture is the way to knowing all, Praise the lord! Shame on people who don't believe in it.

That's one of the most intelligent things ever written by a beaner

[MitzaLizalor]

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There are a number of interesting points here.

@gothgrrly13 First I would like to reiterate Sister BelieverInGod's appreciation that you recognise the FSM to be non-existent & false. There is no such thing, and I am glad you can see that fact.

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The reason that there is a Landover Baptist forum is — because of a continual attack from anti-Christian sources such as the media, pop music, atheists, Roman Catholics, secularists, witches, astrologers & the state education system — it is convenient to have a place where we can share our experiences. Others do post here, and read what we share - as you do. Thus we are not..

FeelsSoGood wrote: banished to a private forum on the internet.

but in fact take the news of God's Perfect Love to the whole world.

FeelsSoGood wrote: burn your Muslims

It seems to have escaped FeelsSoGood's notice that Mohammedans in fact burn one another, as well as blowing one another up, chopping one another's heads off, shooting each other, hurling acid at their children and poisonong themselves with nerve gas.
They do these activities in their hundreds of thousands, and proclaim that they fully intend to export such behaviours to us just as they are already exporting their revolting belief system to Africa which nation is thereby blighted beyond comprehension.
That is why I DO NOT RESPECT their religion IN ANY WAY.

Certain other groups have developed views of the world that I don't agree with, but they don't mandate mass murder and could even be seen as having improved the lot of their citizens. In the long run of course their citizens will not be better off at all, because their culture [ideas and objects], produces a society [interactions between people], that disregards God and therefore leads to Hell.

I am not sure what a "sophomore" is, or whether a high school is a government run establishment.

gothgrrly13 wrote:

<long drawn-out scream>

I hate God.

...grrr......

<must-restrain-fists of death!>

GAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

BANGING HEAD ON KEYBOARD etc

Miss 13 is clearly demon possessed. Luke 9:39

HELL By exercising self control, giving up the ouija board IT IS NOT A GAME stop hating God, and the screaming, head banging, fists of death and all the other things you haven't mentioned can be taken away by. God loves mercy, and can show His mercy, even to you. Hosea 6:6

HALLELUJAH

[lorlen]

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I challenge God to reply to this post with proof that every member on this forum does not exist.

If God does not not prove this within one hour - God is either not all powerful, or, does not exist.

If this post gets modified or deleted, I will take it as a surrender.

The amusement factor here is that the forum admins will have to delete every member of the forum to prove to themselves that God exists.

[Lisa H]

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I challenge God to reply to this post with proof that every member on this forum does not exist.

If God does not not prove this within one hour - God is either not all powerful, or, does not exist.

If this post gets modified or deleted, I will take it as a surrender.

The amusement factor here is that the forum admins will have to delete every member of the forum to prove to themselves that God exists.

Loren, do you really think God would be fooled by your temptations of nonsense.

Your "challenge" is meaningless anyway.


Deuteronomy 6:16 Ye shall not tempt the LORD your God, as ye tempted him in Massah.

James 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

[Meek and Humble]

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I challenge God to reply to this post with proof that every member on this forum does not exist.

If God does not not prove this within one hour - God is either not all powerful, or, does not exist.

If this post gets modified or deleted, I will take it as a surrender.

The amusement factor here is that the forum admins will have to delete every member of the forum to prove to themselves that God exists.

Isn't it past your bedtime, Loren?

[UnSaved Disciple of satan]

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Loren, how can you be so foolish? I should expect that from a woman really though, as in the bible, our Lord Jesus Christ did say "Women are butt monkeys and their only uses are washing mens clothes, making them sandwiches, and giving them a bit of poontang" I realise this was not the exact quote, but I believe it is similar. God will reply to you in his own way, by raping you and your children. That will show you to question the Lord!

[Lisa H]

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Loren, how can you be so foolish? I should expect that from a woman really though, as in the bible, our Lord Jesus Christ did say "Women are butt monkeys and their only uses are washing mens clothes, making them sandwiches, and giving them a bit of poontang" I realise this was not the exact quote, but I believe it is similar. God will reply to you in his own way, by raping you and your children. That will show you to question the Lord!

What is this dribble you are raving on about. Go and read your Bible!

[Themanwho]

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Greetings Christians.
For the record, i consider myself agnostic, so before you go accusing me of being a tunnel sighted, ignorant atheist; i'm not one. I am however studying a degree in philosophy, a science which is older than you guys believe the world is, so, before you accuse someone of something like stupidity, id stop and consider. I would also ask you not to call me arrogant, if only because you all assume your views are 100% correct, and will not consider other peoples view points, which is the definition of the word: 'arrogant'. Before i become too embroiled in your hypocrisy, i will attempt to write something constructive.

Your supposed 'proof' god is real is synonymous with the reason why atheists believe he is not. The Bible, is not a flawless work of god, it is a book, written by man, containing Christian morals. It is said to be the 'word of god'. God did not write it. seeing as man wrote the book, and also seeing that man is not flawless, the book cannot be flawless either. sorry guys. neither was it possible for god to have written it, because, due to the nature of gods perfection, it would be impossible for him to take any action without becoming imperfect. This is a tough concept. A perfect being can only be fixed. Its all encompassing perfection cannot allow for any change to occur to it without a loss of its perfection. Perfection altered, is no longer perfection, because perfection is the only possible absolute in existence.
ive finished for now, i cant really be bothered to write anymore, as i dont think you will accept, much less undestand that im really trying to help you, as i feel pity for the fascist, narrow minded, arrogant, sad people you all are

[DeadMan89]

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Sorry, but I'm not sold that God is real based on this. It's not that credible when on the same site you can find a video of a guy eating his own head or a video of a chimpanzee on a segue.

[Cindy Lou Jenkins]

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Greetings Christians.
For the record, i consider myself agnostic, so before you go accusing me of being a tunnel sighted, ignorant atheist; i'm not one.

Nice try. I'm sure you would rather sit on the fence to stimulate your prostate. Unfortunately, the truth of the matter is that, since you do not believe in God, you are an atheist, like it or not.

I am however studying a degree in philosophy, a science which is older than you guys believe the world is, so, before you accuse someone of something like stupidity, id stop and consider.

Philosophy is not a science. Science is a philosophy.

I would also ask you not to call me arrogant, if only because you all assume your views are 100% correct, and will not consider other peoples view points, which is the definition of the word: 'arrogant'.

ar·ro·gant (r-gnt)
adj. 1. Having or displaying a sense of overbearing self-worth or self-importance.
2. Marked by or arising from a feeling or assumption of one's superiority toward others: an arrogant contempt for the weak. See Synonyms at proud.


Sorry. Wrong again.

Before i become too embroiled in your hypocrisy, i will attempt to write something constructive.

Please do.

Your supposed 'proof' god is real is synonymous with the reason why atheists believe he is not. The Bible, is not a flawless work of god, it is a book, written by man, containing Christian morals. It is said to be the 'word of god'. God did not write it. seeing as man wrote the book, and also seeing that man is not flawless, the book cannot be flawless either. sorry guys. neither was it possible for god to have written it, because, due to the nature of gods perfection, it would be impossible for him to take any action without becoming imperfect. This is a tough concept. A perfect being can only be fixed. Its all encompassing perfection cannot allow for any change to occur to it without a loss of its perfection.

You are presuming that there is only one possible perfect state.

Perfection altered, is no longer perfection, because perfection is the only possible absolute in existence.

This is just a bald assertion, unsupported by reasons of any kind.

The concept is not difficult at all. It is just false. Difficult to believe, granted. I guess I'm not credulous enough to grasp it.

ive finished for now, i cant really be bothered to write anymore, as i dont think you will accept, much less undestand that im really trying to help you, as i feel pity for the fascist, narrow minded, arrogant, sad people you all are

How can it be less likely for me to understand than to accept, since understanding is a prerequisite for acceptance?

You are one of the dumber atheists I have come across. But you will all go to the same Hell.

(Billy Bob: I approve this post.)

[Themanwho]

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okay,
first, being agnostic is not sitting on the fence. It does not stimulate my prostate, amusing though that would be, i think it would be more sore than stimulated. I refer to myself as agnostic simply because i do not beleive that christianity is correct, as i am not close minded enough to take everything it says as true on the assumption god wrote it, because he didnt, for multiple reasons which i will not attempt to explain. you are welcome however, to believe it is. I do believe in a god. Not the christian God, nor any other religions, hence: im an agnostic, because i do not believe in any religion does not mean i do not believe in a god, do not tell me this is wrong, it is not.

second point: yeah maybe, its just a matter of how i phrased it, however science is not exactly inaccurate, your welcome to rephrase it how you wish

three: you have given a dictionary definition of the word arrogant. Dictionary definitions vary in their wording, but this makes them no less correct.

Quote: Marked by or arising from a feeling or assumption of one's superiority toward other

this is merely a different wording of what i claimed.

four: yes i am assuming there is only one perfect state. i can only offer bold* (not bald, its not hairless) assumptions, that is because the reason is logic. this is why i said it is a tough concept, because you have not grasped it, and *arrogantly* assumed you are correct, when im afraid you are not.
the fact that there is only one perfect state is a logical conclusion, this is because perfection, total perfection, must be entirely thoughtless, as when i thought occurs, it inflects upon the nature of the mind thinking it, breaking the balance it was in previously, this loss of balance constitutes a change, something which is unbalanced cannot be perfect. furthermore, to be flawless is not to be perfect, something can be flawless, like correct mathematics, but it is not perfect, as their are elements it does not contain. Something cannot be perfect for a role either, as the scale to which it performs is always in question, it can always increase, infinitely in fact, therefore it cannot reach perfection.

Next, understanding may be a prerequisite for acceptance, but a prerequisite is not the thing itself. Understanding is necessary for acceptance, but there is also other things, hence understanding is merely a prerequisite, not a synonym. Therefore the likelihood for you to do both is lessened, because of the difference between them. This makes sense, im not going to explain it.

please do not question my intelligence, question my understanding if you like. if you mis-understand something, i am happy to explain it further. However insulting someone because of your own inadequacy is foolish.

[Umbrella21]

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Cindy Lou Jenkins, I take issue with your retort. If you are going to argue, I encourage you to do so: progress is only made through debating opposing points. However, what I take issue with is the use of fallacy to persuade others, including Themanwho, you are correct. You may well be in disagreeing with Themanwho, though most certainly are NOT correct in the method you are arguing.

Nice try. I'm sure you would rather sit on the fence to stimulate your prostate. Unfortunately, the truth of the matter is that, since you do not believe in God, you are an atheist, like it or not.

"The fence" you mention seems to be absent from the second clause of this quotation. It is perfectly fine to neither believe in or refute God's existence - to simply not know; why else would the term 'agnostic' have been coined? This is wrong of you.

Philosophy is not a science. Science is a philosophy.

An ad hominem fallacy. So what if the author misspoke? It's not relevant to what you claim to be arguing against, so I must make the assumption that you simply mean to despise and scorn Themanwho.

Do you require my continuity, or can you see the error of your ways?

[Cindy Lou Jenkins]

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"The fence" you mention seems to be absent from the second clause of this quotation. It is perfectly fine to neither believe in or refute God's existence - to simply not know; why else would the term 'agnostic' have been coined? This is wrong of you.

a·the·ist (th-st)
n. One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods.

Someone who claims to be an agnostic takes the position that they do not know if there is a God.


If he believes he does not know there is a God, then he also does not believe there is a God.

If he does not believe there is a God he is "one who disbelieves the existence of God," disbelief being a lack of belief. He is what is known as a soft or weak atheist. If he were a hard or strong atheist he would be "one who denies the existence of God," meaning he holds a belief that there is no God.

An ad hominem fallacy. So what if the author misspoke? It's not relevant to what you claim to be arguing against, so I must make the assumption that you simply mean to despise and scorn Themanwho.

It is an ad hominem fallacy to assume someone means what they say?

Do you require my continuity, or can you see the error of your ways?

Neither, please. Thank you.

[MitzaLizalor]

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Originally posted by Umbrella21

"The fence" you mention seems to be absent from the second clause..

The noun fence is part of an adverbial clause modifying the verb to sit. The subordinate clause is not about sitting.

It is perfectly fine to neither believe in nor refute God's existence - to simply not know; why else would the term 'agnostic' have been coined?

The word agnostic is derived from the word gnostic.

Gnosis

An agnostic believes that there is not some contemplative device whereby we may know the Divinity. Sometimes "agnosticism" is extended to signify the belief that the Divinity is unaware of His creation, too. You don't seem to come into either of those categories.

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Originally Posted by Cindy Lou Jenkins
Philosophy is not a science. Science is a philosophy.

An ad hominem fallacy.

That is not an ad hominem fallacy

LIST OF LOGICAL FALLACIES
ad hom. logical fallacy

[Meek and Humble]

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I do believe in a god. Not the christian God, nor any other religions, hence: im an agnostic, because i do not believe in any religion does not mean i do not believe in a god, do not tell me this is wrong, it is not.

What you describe is not agnosticism, it's deism...