[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: The Big Bang is Un-Scientific

See, Jesus is a fact, not some hair-brained crackpot theory that's scheduled to change every few days. God was, is and forevermore shall be.

[gsdkain]

Re: The Big Bang is Un-Scientific

It's a scientific theory. It isn't a scientific fact. There is a lot of trial and error in the process of proving\disproving a scientific theory. The entire process is scientific, whether proven or disproven. I will admit a lot of it is wishful thinking and a good imagination however. Take for instance the movie "What the bleep do we know", very imaginative and factually exaggerated.

A lot of scientists can at least admit that what we know and take for granted in the world today is probably wrong. Which history has consistently proven, except for the bible of course.

We, as humans in general, need to keep an open mind, explore, learn and grow. Not just settle on one "theory". That would be silly and counter productive.

I don't believe nor disbelieve in god. I also don't necessarily believe the theories thrown at us by scientists either. But what else is there? Whatever the truth is is unbelievable, and probably incomprehensible to us. All I know is smarter people than me have been trying to work these types of things out since mankind started. All any of us can do is sift through the garbage that we are all constantly hit with, and try and make up our own minds.

When you think about it, how hard would it have been to trick people in the BC era? A clever David Blaine type and bam the whole crowds fooled. Sorry, just thinking out loud.

[Enigmatic Harpo Marx]

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Funny thing this "stretched out". And explosion does indeed "stretch out" so this statement makes it even more plausible.

"Stretched-out"??? I'm sorry, but the last time I say something explode it went in to many, many little pieces...

If God made this universe he also made all natural principals (gravity, speed of light, atoms...)

Right, they didn't explode into existence.

Many other planets didn't get the right conditions to sustain life (because they lack a certain gravity or are too far from a sun or other numerous things)

...which suggests that God made a planet solely for us to worship him. Tell me, if everything is just a random assortment of rubble left over from some accidental "bang", what do you think the chances are that said rubble would coalesce into such a perfect environment for people.

[Teflon©]

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Can't you read? Look at the Isaiah quote in my last post. He STRETCHED OUT the heavens. Does it say "BANG! The heavens appeared out of nowhere!". It does not. God created the world purposefully, He didn't just let it bang out like an accidental fart.

Funny thing this "stretched out". And explosion does indeed "stretch out" so this statement makes it even more plausible.

The funny thing is about you people is the fact that you all are against sciences and natural things but you seem to forget that all the principles of the universe are the doings of your own God. If God made this universe he also made all natural principals (gravity, speed of light, atoms...), not because he found it funny but to actually make it possible to sustain life. Many other planets didn't get the right conditions to sustain life (because they lack a certain gravity or are too far from a sun or other numerous things). The science you fight so eagerly is just a part of your belief. Quite saddening that you are trying to deny and fight it.

[Jean Poole]

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Can't you read? Look at the Isaiah quote in my last post. He STRETCHED OUT the heavens. Does it say "BANG! The heavens appeared out of nowhere!". It does not. God created the world purposefully, He didn't just let it bang out like an accidental fart.

[Teflon©]

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OK, here is some proof that the Big Bang is fake:

1. Genesis 1:1
   In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2. Genesis 1:27
   So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
3. Isaiah 45:12
   I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.

Now, does that sound like the world just "suddenly exploded because of nothing and then suddenly existed"? No, that sounds like GOD did it!

And why would the big bang not be the work of God? The Bible does not explain to us how it was done it just tells that the God created earth, it does not say when this happened nor does it say how it was done. Besides it quite clear that man was certainly not the first inhabitants of this planet and that we have evolved out of other creatures. Now the only problem that many religious people have is their own ego, they cannot or will not accept the fact that they are not the alpha creature on this planet.

[Jean Poole]

Re: The Big Bang is Un-Scientific

OK, here is some proof that the Big Bang is fake:

1. Genesis 1:1
   In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2. Genesis 1:27
   So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
3. Isaiah 45:12
   I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.

Now, does that sound like the world just "suddenly exploded because of nothing and then suddenly existed"? No, that sounds like GOD did it!

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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So when do you "Christian" guys gonna show us some real proof of your theories instead of some idiots blabbing around in a youtube video?

You ask without thinking what your are demanding. My first question is, “What proof would you need to agree that God exists?”

Next, you must ask “How do I know that Ezekiel Bathfire exists?” You see my messages but they could be written by teams of staggeringly brilliant professional writers. My posts could all be maneuvering readers to accept my authority for my own ends. You could ask other True Christians about me but they could be “all in league” with the mysterious team of writers.

And yet, and yet, here I am.

Now there are enough miracles and examples of Godly Powers in the Bible (KJV1611) but I suspect that you’re one of those objectionable people who say, “Don’t use the Bible for proof because I don’t believe that either!”

Now imagine for a moment that, on the misguided subject of Evilution, you cannot refer to Darwin’s “The Origin of the Species.” You’d be stuffed for most of your arguments and would have to refer to indirect methods.

One way to show that God exists is to test the whole of Christianity against Scientific Standards set by an atheist and I did that here.

You will see that God is a 100% winner and that is not surprising.

Now, at this stage, not only do you have Faith that I exist but you have your proof. If you reject it, I ask you again to answer this,
(i) What proof would be sufficient for you, such that you agree that God exists?”

[Teflon©]

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So when do you "Christian" guys gonna show us some real proof of your theories instead of some idiots blabbing around in a youtube video?

[Jean Poole]

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I believe Jesus speaks like that:

King James Bible Matthew 12:34
O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

Matthew 23:17
Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?

Luke 11:40
Ye fools, did not he that made that which is without make that which is within also?

[Squidward]

Re: The Big Bang is Un-Scientific

This coming from a teenaged slut who dresses like a zombie and rejects Christ to worship satan.

For a Christian, your not very well spoken. Is this how Jesus would speak to other people, Sir?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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holy crap!!! are you freaking retarded!!?? the earth is round, everybody knows that, well at least the smart people do.

This coming from a teenaged slut who dresses like a zombie and rejects Christ to worship satan.

[christain-goth]

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The world *is* flat, sinner. The astronauts lied to us all. Who do you think is more likely to lie:

1. God, creator of all things, who knows all, and is Good.

2. Some rotten little Scientists.



Beduzzling, isn't it?

holy crap!!! are you freaking retarded!!?? the earth is round, everybody knows that, well at least the smart people do.

[Squidward]

Re: The Big Bang is Un-Scientific

AMEN, Dr.Santiago!

P.S. As for the "Love thy neighbor" comment, we all love you very much, SquidMonkey. Here we are, trying to save you from Eternal Damnation, but you insult us endlessly! But still we try and save you! If that is not True Christian™ Love, I don't know what is.

Unsaved scum like you are hardly likely to be my neighbor. Use your head, asshat.

You both seem to have different ideas of what I said. Pastor Ezekiel has his head up his arse and is DIFFIDENTLY going to Hell! I'm going for now, you people have made me laugh extremely hard, the "True Christian™" is simply genius and makes me laugh every time I see it used. Some of the comments are genius here, some of them have to be a joke. Mother of 20 children to create a army for Jesus?! Ganging up on Jesus?! XD. I'M UNSAVED TRASH AND PROUD!

[Dr. Santiago Solo]

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What happened to "Love thy Neighbor" or is their a exception? And yes we get it, your self-righteous. Puppet.

OK, Squid, repeat after me: There is an exception to their rules, if they're desperate. It is because your obvious lack of grammar prevents you to write properly, or you're just an idiot? I love all of my neighbours in Freehold, of course, I can assure you. I even love you enough to try and save your mortal soul, before it's too late