Why do you believe

[Nihilist-DZ]

I am wondering why do you believe in your religion. There is absolutely zero proof god ever existed, and you believe make believe fairy tales that have been rewritten by people more ignorant than you all [No offense] over many many times. How do you know anything within your "treasure book" is fact.

You believe that a higher being magically poofed himself into existence and made everything we see today. Now I will say the "big bang" is no more convincing it's a convenient thing to say for now but still don't explain how the existence of "space and time" came to be but at least it has proof to back up it's words.

Next you say all other religions are inferior to your own. I will say that your religion does bring a couple good sentiments that all people should hold true. But at the same time many other religions can say the same. Never the less you can't possibly believe someone who wishes for you to go to "heaven" and spend an eternity of joy any happiness with him would force you into believing certain idea's and to act a certain way. Then at the same time have someone who has committed a great atrocity have a "get out of hell free card" waiting for him at any church he goes to. If your god is so loving he wouldn't allow murders, rape etc. to take place. An if he does why would you want to follow such a figure.

I am a Nihilist to a certain extent [ if you couldn't already tell] Which is seems looking on this forum you know absolutely nothing about as much of other religions and to be quite honest even your own. You all say you are practicing Christians etc. but yet you break you're own "rules" in nearly every post. for example the "false religion poll" you say "penny pinching bagel Meister's [who killed Jesus]" Now doesn't your bible say that you shall forgive? and to hate the sin not the sinner? Those seem like some pretty hateful words there.

So I would like you to show me some proof in which backs you're "righteous" religion and your actions, you push your religion on other people then when someone asks "why" or "how" to something you say "god did it" who the hell is god? where is the proof of his\her\it's existence. I could say a magical imp came to me in a dream and said all religions are false. Doesn't make it true I have nothing to back it up. Also whats with all the "pastors" you're obviously not a real one which is a sin just to let you know. If you were a real paster you would follow the biblical rules.

I doubt I will get a answer to my questions 1. because there aren't any logical ones just more made up garbage 2. because you all obviously know very little about your own religion let alone others. 3. your all afraid of the truth, religion is a crutch for the weak.

[JennyD]

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I believe Jesus will drop-kick you into Hell for your disbelief.

Oh, and so do 76% of Americans.

If we're irrational, then so is the vast majority of the population.

Chew on that.

[Nobar King]

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We know all about ALL of the other religions. That doesn't mean that we have to follow them.

[Nihilist-DZ]

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I believe Jesus will drop-kick you into Hell for your disbelief.

Oh, and so do 76% of Americans.

If we're irrational, then so is the vast majority of the population.

Chew on that.

Thats hard to believe when there is very little of china's population that practice's your religion and they alone hold a very very very large amount of the worlds population. If you're referring to the USA that statement you posted may be true, but luckily the world doesn't revolve around the USA.

We know all about ALL of the other religions. That doesn't mean that we have to follow them.

You know very little about the other religions your pathetic forum states that.

[JennyD]

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Thats hard to believe when there is very little of china's population that practice's your religion and they alone hold a very very very large amount of the worlds population. If you're referring to the USA that statement you posted may be true, but luckily the world doesn't revolve around the USA.

Considering the current worldwide economic collapse brought on by a couple of missteps in mortgage lending in the USA, I'd say you're quite incorrect in that assessment.

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

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Son, nations have arisen and fallen, religions have come and gone, wars have been fought, there have been inquisitions and torture, and you have the temerity to come here and announce your unsubstantiated assertions.

Your questions have been answered numerous times in this Godly forum. Please avail yourself of its collective wisdom before you make a fool of yourself.

You can start by reading this:

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=5610

[Nihilist-DZ]

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Considering the current worldwide economic collapse brought on by a couple of missteps in mortgage lending in the USA, I'd say you're quite incorrect in that assessment.

Are you kidding? that was just one of the problems your ideal's are so based on the glory of the USA that you think that everything revolves around you. The truth is the majority of the bullshit going on in the world is A. bad economic plans world wide. B. the war and those who stepped in wasted an outstanding sum of money. C. Resources running thin.

Don't believe that everything revolves around you there are other and bigger fish in the sea.

Son, nations have arisen and fallen, religions have come and gone, wars have been fought, there have been inquisitions and torture, and you have the temerity to come here and announce your unsubstantiated assertions.

Your questions have been answered numerous times in this Godly forum. Please avail yourself of its collective wisdom before you make a fool of yourself.

You can start by reading this:

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=5610

I'm not here to see you talk about you're religion and I'm not about to troll through your poor excuse for a forum to find the answers. You are all god loving folks correct? you should be able to answer my questions. After all the bible is to each his own is it not? Not everyone interpreters it in the same manor. So lets hear you're excuses so I can thoroughly demolish them.

An without debate how will you find truth.

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

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Are you kidding? that was just one of the problems your ideal's are so based on the glory of the USA that you think that everything revolves around you. The truth is the majority of the bullshit going on in the world is A. bad economic plans world wide. B. the war and those who stepped in wasted an outstanding sum of money. C. Resources running thin.

Don't believe that everything revolves around you there are other and bigger fish in the sea.



I'm not here to see you talk about you're religion and I'm not about to troll through your poor excuse for a forum to find the answers. You are all god loving folks correct? you should be able to answer my questions. After all the bible is to each his own is it not? Not everyone interpreters it in the same manor. So lets hear you're excuses so I can thoroughly demolish them.

An without debate how will you find truth.

Where are you from Mr. NDZ? You write like a Queeropean. I bet you are some kind of Euro-fag aren't you.

You say in your broken english that you're "not here to see you talk about you're religion", but then that's all you've been doing since you got here. It must be boring where ever you are. Why else would you be here where you're not welcome? I bet you are a very lonely little boy. A poor sad little boy with nobody to love him.

Well, come to Jesus son, and all your cares will be gone and all your poorly-worded prayers will answered!

[JennyD]

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I'm not here to see you talk about your religion and I'm not about to troll through your poor excuse for a forum to find the answers. You are all God-loving folks, correct? You should be able to answer my questions. After all the Bible is to each his own is it not?

No, the Bible is what it is. There is no interpreting permitted.

Not everyone interprets it in the same manner. So lets hear your excuses so I can thoroughly demolish them.

Friend, I doubt you could demolish your way out of the intellectual equivalent of a wet paper bag.

You posted a series of statements, and called them questions. Now, in your semi-literate style, you claim intellectual superiority to people who can, at the least, write coherent sentences.

As people on your little teeny-bopper forums no doubt say, "EPIC FAIL!"

[Nihilist-DZ]

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Where are you from Mr. NDZ? You write like a Queeropean. I bet you are some kind of Euro-fag aren't you.

You say in your broken english that you're "not here to see you talk about you're religion", but then that's all you've been doing since you got here. It must be boring where ever you are. Why else would you be here where you're not welcome? I bet you are a very lonely little boy. A poor sad little boy with nobody to love him.

Well, come to Jesus son, and all your cares will be gone and all your poorly-worded prayers will answered!

First of all I am from many places but have resided in the US for approx 6 years straight [ as well as some other years as a child] and if you're trying to hit on me I don't swing that way.


Well if you could understand English captain A.fag I asked several questions I don't want to hear about your ignorant babble on what you think of other religions I want to see the proof in which you possess that makes your religion right and have my questions answered.

I figured hell if a pastor can't give me my answers there must be no god correct? It's a tragedy that my one time I try to reach out I can't get any answers.

Next you call me a little boy and call me a fag? what the hell are you a pedophile? aren't they banned from the church? An if you ran your mouth a little less and paid more attention you would realise I am more than likely older than you young one.

No, the Bible is what it is. There is no interpreting permitted.

Friend, I doubt you could demolish your way out of the intellectual equivalent of a wet paper bag.

You posted a series of statements, and called them questions. Now, in your semi-literate style, you claim intellectual superiority to people who can, at the least, write coherent sentences.

As people on your little teeny-bopper forums no doubt say, "EPIC FAIL!"

Haha, this makes this a whole lot more fun now. If the bible is what is and you do not interpret it. then tell me how do you go about obeying it when it contradicts itself in so many ways?

Well I guess you guys must be a bit weaker than a paper bag because you still have yet to answer my questions I have asked. All you seem to do is try to stray away from the subject because you know the bullshit you spew is all lies.

Semi-literate? you must be blind. Perhaps it's just that the "holy" can't see questions that they can't explain? That must be it. and considering you're so ignorant I shall point out my questions because you're obviously the illiterate ones here.

1.Why you believe in your religion? [this includes explaining why you would believe in fairy tales]

2. What makes your religion superior to other religions? [include proof to back it up]

3. Why would you wish to follow a figure who forces you to follow him and allows people who could or have harmed you in some way go to heaven with you just by saying a simple prayer?

4. Why are you saying you're something you're not? [I have seen on countless threads you breaking the rules of you're own religion]

5. Show me some proof to say your religion is true and your god is not fictitious

Now there is no avoiding them they are all out there plain and simple please give me the answers I request.

[Talitha]

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1.Why you believe in your religion? [this includes explaining why you would believe in fairy tales]

2. What makes your religion superior to other religions? [include proof to back it up]

3. Why would you wish to follow a figure who forces you to follow him and allows people who could or have harmed you in some way go to heaven with you just by saying a simple prayer?

4. Why are you saying you're something you're not? [I have seen on countless threads you breaking the rules of you're own religion]

5. Show me some proof to say your religion is true and your god is not fictitious

Now there is no avoiding them they are all out there plain and simple please give me the answers I request.

1/ If we didn't in Jesus it wouldn't be our Religion. By the same reasoning, we believe, therefore it is our Religion.

2/ Our Religion is superior because we have The Truth. As written in The Bible (King James version). All other Religions are false and therefore untrue.

3/ We aren't forced to do anything. We do, however understand the fact that we shall spend an Eternity in hell if we don't believe.

4/ We follow Gods Law. However, we also have to abide by the Law of the Land.
I am a True Christian™. It says so in my title. I also have a notice on my front door.
I am a Triple Platinum Tither, therefore I shall have a much nicer place in Heaven when Jesus returns. IT WILL BE ANY DAY NOW

5/ Well, I have my Bible right here in front of me. Leather Cover, Golden edged pages. Looks real to me. I even have a receipt.
Have you ever heard of Faith friend? It's something that Nietzsche worshipers like yourself do not have.

You can come here mocking our belief and faith. At least I have one. At least I have the REALITY that is Jesus Christ our Savior who died (temporarily) for our Sins.

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

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You are all god loving folks correct? you should be able to answer my questions. After all the bible is to each his own is it not? Not everyone interpreters it in the same manor. So lets hear you're excuses so I can thoroughly demolish them.

An without debate how will you find truth.

In fact, I AM able to answer your questions. But until you learn the English language, I am not sure you will understand the answers. And you most certainly won't 'demolish' anything, or Christianity would be gone by now. It isn't.

First, your premises are bad. We are GOD-FEARING people, the Bible is not 'to each his own' (I have no idea where you picked that idea up....probably Europe). And finally, we have no 'excuses' for you to 'demolish'. We have our beliefs, and two thousand years of history to support them. And we do not have the time to debate the subject over and over with every God-mocker who comes in here. After about five years, that got old. This forum has been in existence longer than your immigrant ass has been in America, and if not for a DDoS attack which our old provider was unprepared for, we would have well over two million posts. As it is, we are getting 350,000 hits a month on this site, and you are simply one more barely literate pissant pseudo-intellectual who will be gone in two days.

There is no reason in the world to bother with you, and I am not going to have people who should be counseling young Christians wasting their time. Every question you have asked has been answered. If it is too much trouble for a suave poofter like you to look for the answers, then do without.

Your attitude irritates me because you pretend at intelligence but cannot distinguish between 'manor' and 'manner'. Neither can you understand 'let's', a contraction of 'let us' or 'you're', a contraction of 'you are' from 'your', which is a form of the possessive case of 'you' used as an attributive adjective.

You do not even understand what I am talking about; so by what irrational, egotistical, twisted ratiocination, do you believe you are capable of having a coherent conversation with anyone? You certainly cannot with me. Your pitiful grammar is insulting enough, but the ridiculous idea that you are smart enough to exchange ideas with educated adults is even more so.

When you have read and grasp all of the works of Flavius Josephus and can discuss them in conjunction with the Bible; when you have completed a theological degree and understand that its historical references have been proved by science, and when you learn manners and respect for your betters, you may apply again.

Goodbye and God Bless
Pastor Al

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

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First of all I am from many places but have resided in the US for approx 6 years straight [ as well as some other years as a child] and if you're trying to hit on me I don't swing that way


Well if you could understand English captain A.fag I asked several questions I don't want to hear about your ignorant babble on what you think of other religions I want to see the proof in which you possess that makes your religion right and have my questions answered.

Hit on you? Hardly! You have a lousy attitude son. You come here into OUR forum with your demands for answers, yet you won't answer a simple question of mine. I'll ask it again: WHERE ARE YOU FROM!

I'll skip the obvious joke about how I doubt you've been in the US for six years straight.

I figured hell if a pastor can't give me my answers there must be no god correct? It's a tragedy that my one time I try to reach out I can't get any answers.

Next you call me a little boy and call me a fag? what the hell are you a pedophile? aren't they banned from the church? An if you ran your mouth a little less and paid more attention you would realise I am more than likely older than you young one.

Your logic is flawlessly backward. I said you sounded like a European sodomite, not that you were one. Then you claimed I was hitting on you and you called me a fag. Methinks the laddy doth protest too much!

As for answering your questions, as soon as I untangled the mess of letters you call words and sentences, I will attempt said answers. But I see we will have to continue this discussion in Quarantine. Tsk tsk, such an angry young man.

1.Why you believe in your religion? [this includes explaining why you would believe in fairy tales]

Because the Bible, specifically the KJV1611, says so.

2. What makes your religion superior to other religions? [include proof to back it up]

See answer to #1

3. Why would you wish to follow a figure who forces you to follow him and allows people who could or have harmed you in some way go to heaven with you just by saying a simple prayer?

You have no idea what you're talking about. True Christians™ go to Heaven, everyone else goes to Hell. End of story.

4. Why are you saying you're something you're not? [I have seen on countless threads you breaking the rules of you're own religion]

Be more specific Mr. Bossy-Pants. Which threads? What are we pretending to be?

5. Show me some proof to say your religion is true and your god is not fictitious

See answer to question #1.

[Nihilist-DEZ]

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Hit on you? Hardly! You have a lousy attitude son. You come here into OUR forum with your demands for answers, yet you won't answer a simple question of mine. I'll ask it again: WHERE ARE YOU FROM!

I already told you I am currently residing in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA . Only a pedophile would wish for me to go into further detail.

Your logic is flawlessly backward. I said you sounded like a European sodomite, not that you were one. Then you claimed I was hitting on you and you called me a fag. Methinks the laddy doth protest too much!

You called me a "queeropean" which is quite a vulgar remark. Then said you bet I am some type of euro fag, you sir have just contradicted yourself.

See answer to #1

A book is not proof to say that your religion is right.

You have no idea what you're talking about. True Christians™ go to Heaven, everyone else goes to Hell. End of story.

Wrong, your bible says that god loves all his children and wishes them to all spend eternity with him. An anyone who has cleansed them self will go to heaven. If this were not true everyone would go to hell because we are born with natural sin.

Be more specific Mr. Bossy-Pants. Which threads? What are we pretending to be?

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/forumdisplay.php?f=15

I will just leave it at that, every thread in there has a least one person from your "group" breaking the laws of god.

See answer to question #1.

Once again that is not proof.

1/ If we didn't in Jesus it wouldn't be our Religion. By the same reasoning, we believe, therefore it is our Religion.

But why believe? As I said before the bible is a book of fairy tales and beliefs\rules that contradict there self on a constant basis.

2/ Our Religion is superior because we have The Truth. As written in The Bible (King James version). All other Religions are false and therefore untrue.

You and every other religious fool says "we have the truth" Where the hell is your proof that you have the truth? A book does not speak the truth. Give me proper proof.

3/ We aren't forced to do anything. We do, however understand the fact that we shall spend an Eternity in hell if we don't believe.

You clearly are but your weak mind has been brainwashed into such a frivolous religion. It does not come down to simply "believing" I would suggest you read your book again and write out all of your rules and then come back and post how you're not bound by your rules.

4/ We follow Gods Law. However, we also have to abide by the Law of the Land.
I am a True Christian™. It says so in my title. I also have a notice on my front door.
I am a Triple Platinum Tither, therefore I shall have a much nicer place in Heaven when Jesus returns. IT WILL BE ANY DAY NOW

How can you say you follow gods law?
In the bible it states something along the lines you mustn't follow any other being or beings other than god\Jesus. You have just been labeled a hypocrite and you shall be condemned to hell.
Your title must mean a lot to you on here considering it's the only thing you have.
Also the emoticons you post are in poor taste and make a mockery of what Jesus did to save your pitiful soul.

5/ Well, I have my Bible right here in front of me. Leather Cover, Golden edged pages. Looks real to me. I even have a receipt.
Have you ever heard of Faith friend? It's something that Nietzsche worshipers like yourself do not have. FPRIVATE "TYPE=PICT;ALT="
As I have previously stated a Poor excuse for a book is not proof that something happened give me evidence of gods existence or it did not happen fool.
As I have said also previously you clearly know nothing of other religions
A Nihilist is someone who does not believe in an objective, purpose, or meaning to there life I do not fall for such ignorant ways of thinking of that some magical fairy will make everything ok. and the only faith I possess is that of myself and it seems to be working out for me so far.

You can come here mocking our belief and faith. At least I have one. At least I have the REALITY that is Jesus Christ our Savior who died (temporarily) for our Sins.

I am not mocking your belief or faith I am just seeking some answers that you still have not given a liable\successful answer to.
If anything this entire site is a bigger mockery of your religion than anything else.

In fact, I AM able to answer your questions. But until you learn the English language, I am not sure you will understand the answers. And you most certainly won't 'demolish' anything, or Christianity would be gone by now. It isn't.
First, your premises are bad. We are GOD-FEARING people, the Bible is not 'to each his own' (I have no idea where you picked that idea up....probably Europe). And finally, we have no 'excuses' for you to 'demolish'. We have our beliefs, and two thousand years of history to support them. And we do not have the time to debate the subject over and over with every God-mocker who comes in here. After about five years, that got old. This forum has been in existence longer than your immigrant ass has been in America, and if not for a DDoS attack which our old provider was unprepared for, we would have well over two million posts. As it is, we are getting 350,000 hits a month on this site, and you are simply one more barely literate pissant pseudo-intellectual who will be gone in two days.
There is no reason in the world to bother with you, and I am not going to have people who should be counseling young Christians wasting their time. Every question you have asked has been answered. If it is too much trouble for a suave poofter like you to look for the answers, then do without.
Your attitude irritates me because you pretend at intelligence but cannot distinguish between 'manor' and 'manner'. Neither can you understand 'let's', a contraction of 'let us' or 'you're', a contraction of 'you are' from 'your', which is a form of the possessive case of 'you' used as an attributive adjective.
You do not even understand what I am talking about; so by what irrational, egotistical, twisted ratiocination, do you believe you are capable of having a coherent conversation with anyone? You certainly cannot with me. Your pitiful grammar is insulting enough, but the ridiculous idea that you are smart enough to exchange ideas with educated adults is even more so.
When you have read and grasp all of the works of Flavius Josephus and can discuss them in conjunction with the Bible; when you have completed a theological degree and understand that its historical references have been proved by science, and when you learn manners and respect for your betters, you may apply again.
Goodbye and God Bless
Pastor Al

First of all I won't even bother breaking down your post as it is the most redundant of all.
If you were not so illiterate maybe you would see in the bible it states that it's something to take into your own perspective to "better one's self"
If you don't believe this perhaps you should ask any REAL pastor\preacher etc. Not the make believe colony you have here.

[Nihilist-DEZ]

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I already told you I am currently residing in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA . Only a pedophile would wish for me to go into further detail.




You called me a "queeropean" which is quite a vulgar remark. Then said you bet I am some type of euro fag, you sir have just contradicted yourself.


A book is not proof to say that your religion is right.



Wrong, your bible says that god loves all his children and wishes them to all spend eternity with him. An anyone who has cleansed them self will go to heaven. If this were not true everyone would go to hell because we are born with natural sin.




http://www.landoverbaptist.net/forumdisplay.php?f=15

I will just leave it at that, every thread in there has a least one person from your "group" breaking the laws of god.


Once again that is not proof.


But why believe? As I said before the bible is a book of fairy tales and beliefs\rules that contradict there self on a constant basis.


You and every other religious fool says "we have the truth" Where the hell is your proof that you have the truth? A book does not speak the truth. Give me proper proof.


You clearly are but your weak mind has been brainwashed into such a frivolous religion. It does not come down to simply "believing" I would suggest you read your book again and write out all of your rules and then come back and post how you're not bound by your rules.



How can you say you follow gods law?
In the bible it states something along the lines you mustn't follow any other being or beings other than god\Jesus. You have just been labeled a hypocrite and you shall be condemned to hell.
Your title must mean a lot to you on here considering it's the only thing you have.
Also the emoticons you post are in poor taste and make a mockery of what Jesus did to save your pitiful soul.

5/ Well, I have my Bible right here in front of me. Leather Cover, Golden edged pages. Looks real to me. I even have a receipt.
Have you ever heard of Faith friend? It's something that Nietzsche worshipers like yourself do not have. FPRIVATE "TYPE=PICT;ALT="
As I have previously stated a Poor excuse for a book is not proof that something happened give me evidence of gods existence or it did not happen fool.
As I have said also previously you clearly know nothing of other religions
A Nihilist is someone who does not believe in an objective, purpose, or meaning to there life I do not fall for such ignorant ways of thinking of that some magical fairy will make everything ok. and the only faith I possess is that of myself and it seems to be working out for me so far.

I am not mocking your belief or faith I am just seeking some answers that you still have not given a liable\successful answer to.
If anything this entire site is a bigger mockery of your religion than anything else.


First of all I won't even bother breaking down your post as it is the most redundant of all.
If you were not so illiterate maybe you would see in the bible it states that it's something to take into your own perspective to "better one's self"
If you don't believe this perhaps you should ask any REAL pastor\preacher etc. Not the make believe colony you have here.

P.S. it all makes sense now on captain a. fags part he follows a mormon who almost single handedly ruined the united states of America.