[iBenneh]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

It sounds to me like you are more likely to be "garanteed" a place in remedial American spelling and grammar classes at the YMCA.

I see a lot of vain, sass-mouthed babbling coming from your direction, but I don't see any Scripture provided to support your ridiculous assertions. How can we take your arguments seriously when you don't base them on Biblical evidence?

Don't need to spell to do Computer Science.

And I don't like your tone. You might talk to some people like that, and I'm sure they just sit down and take it, but I won't. If you want my respect, you show me some, Sir.

Scripture? As proof? Absurd. I have certificates, not some half-baked faith in an invisible thing.

On a side note, the language you're speaking is American ENGLISH, not American, Friend. I think you need to go back to History 101.

Finally, it's spelt "Asssertations", not "Assertions".

[Cursed]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Don't need to spell to do Computer Science.

Yes you do. You'll learn that someday if you keep trying, plucky!

And I don't like your tone.

Then leave our home, you uninvited piece of garbage!

You might talk to some people like that, and I'm sure they just sit down and take it, but I won't. If you want my respect, you show me some, Sir.

Not only are you uneducated, you are a rude savage! You be nice to Brother Jebediah, he's worth a thousand of you, you nasty thing!

Your parents haven't taught you any manners, so allow me to introduce the concept to you, squirt. When you visit someone's home uninvited (e.g. Landover Baptist Forum, the internet home of Landover Baptists) you should always be respectful and polite, even if you don't like what they say.

You do this because you would expect the same courtesy of uninvited guests to your home.

Do you understand now? Was that simple enough for you to get?

Scripture? As proof? Absurd. I have certificates, not some half-baked faith in an invisible thing.

Why do you think certificates (writing on paper) are more important than the Holy Bible (inspired by GOD writing on paper)?

On a side note, the language you're speaking is American ENGLISH, not American, Friend. I think you need to go back to History 101.

We speak AMERICAN here, friend, don't tell us what we speak. We don't tell you what to do in your home.

Finally, it's spelt "Assertations", not "Assertions".

No it's not, ha you really are slow! Ha ha thanks for that laugh, every village needs a fool!

[iBenneh]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

It sounds to me like you are more likely to be "garanteed" a place in remedial American spelling and grammar classes at the YMCA.

I see a lot of vain, sass-mouthed babbling coming from your direction, but I don't see any Scripture provided to support your ridiculous assertions. How can we take your arguments seriously when you don't base them on Biblical evidence?

I don't know how to respond privately on here, so I will do it here.

First and foremost, you will NEVER be my better. Elder, maybe - and I respect my elders, but not when they try to glance down at me from a great height. But not better.

Secondly, I will use my tounge however I see fit. I have chosen my words carefully, and if you want to supress my beliefs, that's fine - go ahead and ban me.

Thridly, I do believe an apology is in order. My tone may have been harsh, but that is just how I speak. It was a simple request for scripture, and I apologise for my harshness. Let's leave it there, becaus that is all you're going to be getting, Friend.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

In what, and from what University? And who says I'm in high-school? You don't know what an AS Level is so please don't impinge upon my intellect.

Oh, so it is Assisted Services. Yeah, the liebrals like to use all sorts of fancy words for retarded.

I'm got a 3.9, and an almost garanteed place at MIT, so I wouldn't go waving qualifications around if I were you.

MIT takes retards now? The difference being, I'm done, you haven't even started.

God's existance cannot be proven via a book, so it is therefore impossible for it to be correct and true. Nobody saw him write it, and nobody know where he got his knowledge from. Therefore you cannot say in any way that your book is more valid than mine.

Yet because some scientist writes something in a book it's true, even though it's impossible to prove it correct or true. Isn't that the height of hypocrisy.

I know that he "Dweeb in a lab coat" wrote it because I have met him. He is corporeal, and tangible. Where is your God? Have you seen him? Is he solid and tangible?

Really? You met a guy who measured the distance from the earth to the sun? I would really like to meet this guy! Please let me know where he teaches, especially since nobody has ever flown to the sun so there is no way that anyone has actually measured it.

So once again, you prove you are nothing but a liar, but we're supposed to take your word over the TRUE AND LIVING GOD.

[Cursed]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

I don't know how to respond privately on here, so I will do it here.

You don't know a lot of things.

First and foremost, you will NEVER be my better.

WRONG. Brother Jebediah is one of the finest men I know, and I would give my life for him.

You? You are WORTHLESS.

Elder, maybe - and I respect my elders, but not when they try to glance down at me from a great height. But not better.

If you know enough to respect your elders, you should know the rules of common courtesy, and you wouldn't be here arguing.

But you don't, so you don't, so you are. The proof is in the pudding.

Secondly, I will use my tounge however I see fit.

Not for long unless you change your ways.

I have chosen my words carefully, and if you want to supress my beliefs, that's fine - go ahead and ban me.

I won't ever ban you! I like to keep a dummy around to amuse me.

Thridly, I do believe an apology is in order. My tone may have been harsh, but that is just how I speak. It was a simple request for scripture, and I apologise for my harshness. Let's leave it there, becaus that is all you're going to be getting, Friend.

Apology accepted, friend. I will no longer rebuke you, as long as you behave!

[iBenneh]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

You don't know a lot of things.



WRONG. Brother Jebediah is one of the finest men I know, and I would give my life for him.

You? You are WORTHLESS.



If you know enough to respect your elders, you should know the rules of common courtesy, and you wouldn't be here arguing.

But you don't, so you don't, so you are. The proof is in the pudding.



Not for long unless you change your ways.



I won't ever ban you! I like to keep a dummy around to amuse me.



Apology accepted, friend. I will no longer rebuke you, as long as you behave!

I will ignore all but the last sentence in order to try and make peace.

My point WAS, when I was a Christian, I just couldn't see any proof around me for anything I was being told, so please don't get me wrong, I am quite open to proof - in fact I encourage it, I would like to be pursuaded back into Christianity, but I can't find any myself. Maybe somebody could help.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

I will ignore all but the last sentence in order to try and make peace.

My point WAS, when I was a Christian, I just couldn't see any proof around me for anything I was being told, so please don't get me wrong, I am quite open to proof - in fact I encourage it, I would like to be pursuaded back into Christianity, but I can't find any myself. Maybe somebody could help.

So you were a Christian, but you have spit in Jesus eye, and denied that the Holy Spirit exists? Well I guess there's no hope for you.
Hebrews 10:26-31
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

[Soldier4God]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

If the sun is only 500 miles from the surface of the earth (if it's flat like you guys believe) than the sun would be the length of a good size state away. So when it's in one spot that would make it thousands of miles away from other parts of the earth. You're entire logic is flawed. It doesn't make sense. How can you ever have noon?

[its_faith]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Praise the Lord! He has shown me how to prove scientifically that the sun is no more than 500 miles overhead.

Here is the proof:

To start off with, the sun is hot enough to glow yellow, so we can use Wein's Displacement Law to determine the temperature.

Wein's Displacement Law:
Peak Wavelength in meters = displacement constant / temperature in Kelvin

Yellow light has a wavelength between 570nm and 580nm, so we'll solve for 575nm. Since we are working with nanometers rather than meters, we'll simplify the math by multiplying the displacement constant by 10^9.

575 = 2897768.5/T
575 * T = 2897768.5
T = 2897768.5/575
T = 5039.6° K (8611.6° F)

So the sun is about 5039.6° Kelvin.

Now, the average temperature of the earth is 59° F, or about 288° K. The mean temperature gradient of the troposphere is 6° K/km, so let's solve for the distance.

d = (5039.6 - 288)/6
d = 791.9 km (491.1 miles)

There you have it. The sun is roughly 491.1 miles overhead. Depending on the exact shade of yellow (whether it's closer to 570nm or 580nm), this figure could be off by as much as 5 miles. However, I don't have a spectrometer handy, and I'm willing to live with an uncertainty of ±5 miles. It's not like I'm planning to visit anytime soon -- my shoes would melt .

The LORD is so good to me. Praise the sweet name of Jesus.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

I always wondered about this, thanks for posting this. Also would it be safe to visit the sun at night?

[James Hutchins]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

I always wondered about this, thanks for posting this. Also would it be safe to visit the sun at night?

Well, it would be safe to visit if it were possible to travel into the upper firmament. However, everyone knows that only happens when you die and (if you are a lucky one like me) go to Heaven. Otherwise, it is just something to ponder about, like where Noah got his nails from.
If you want, after you cook a sucking pig in the smoker, use the garden hose and put the coals out. Dump then one the floor and walkon them. That will be just like the Sun at night.

[qualejar]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

the sun is millions of miles away.
if it were closer, earth would not have lif on it, the conditions would be too extreme. we have sent men into space, they have traveled hundreds of miles to the moon, which is smaller than the sun, so how can the moon and sun be roughly the same distance, and the sun be thousands of times bigger, yet they both look similar in size from the ground?

[James Hutchins]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

the sun is millions of miles away.
if it were closer, earth would not have lif on it, the conditions would be too extreme. we have sent men into space, they have traveled hundreds of miles to the moon, which is smaller than the sun, so how can the moon and sun be roughly the same distance, and the sun be thousands of times bigger, yet they both look similar in size from the ground?

Wrong.

If you make a bonfire, how close can you get before your skin boils?
If you light a match, how close can you get until the skin on your arm chars? Size matters son. Ask Remy Lebeau. The smaller the fire, the closer it has to be. The Bible tells us the sun is about 500 miles from the Earth. Given than we are able to surmise it is about 30 miles across. An experiment you can do at home:

Make a bonfire 30 miles across. How close can you get? (Be sure to get your dads permission first. Also have a kitchen fire extguisher handy)

The moon is no more than about 20 miles from Earth and is about 1,000 feet across.

No living man has ever crossed the upper firmement. Haven't you ever picked up a Bible?

[GodIsLovely]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Praise the Lord! He has shown me how to prove scientifically that the sun is no more than 500 miles overhead.

Here is the proof:

To start off with, the sun is hot enough to glow yellow, so we can use Wein's Displacement Law to determine the temperature.

Wein's Displacement Law:
Peak Wavelength in meters = displacement constant / temperature in Kelvin

Yellow light has a wavelength between 570nm and 580nm, so we'll solve for 575nm. Since we are working with nanometers rather than meters, we'll simplify the math by multiplying the displacement constant by 10^9.

575 = 2897768.5/T
575 * T = 2897768.5
T = 2897768.5/575
T = 5039.6° K (8611.6° F)

So the sun is about 5039.6° Kelvin.

Now, the average temperature of the earth is 59° F, or about 288° K. The mean temperature gradient of the troposphere is 6° K/km, so let's solve for the distance.

d = (5039.6 - 288)/6
d = 791.9 km (491.1 miles)

There you have it. The sun is roughly 491.1 miles overhead. Depending on the exact shade of yellow (whether it's closer to 570nm or 580nm), this figure could be off by as much as 5 miles. However, I don't have a spectrometer handy, and I'm willing to live with an uncertainty of ±5 miles. It's not like I'm planning to visit anytime soon -- my shoes would melt .

The LORD is so good to me. Praise the sweet name of Jesus.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

Praise the lord for men of science like you Pastor Billy. I always thought the sun was millions of miles away but now, thanks to you, I've seen the light.... not from the sun of course, but from your god-given gift of educationalism. You give them atheists hell and prove them wrong on all their idiotic claims. God bless you Pastor Billy and the sweet baby Jesus.

[Soldier4God]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

If the sun is only 500 miles from the surface of the earth (if it's flat like you guys believe) than the sun would be the length of a good size state away. So when it's in one spot that would make it thousands of miles away from other parts of the earth. You're entire logic is flawed. It doesn't make sense. How can you ever have noon?

Anyone have an answer for me?

[Meek and Humble]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Anyone have an answer for me?

You're welcome.