Space telescope: More nonsense from sick-ular "scientists"

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Sick-ular lie-beral scientists have an impressive track record of getting everything wrong, from the origin of life to "global warming" to where homers come from. Now, however, they're going to great lengths to come up with even more nonsense.

Biased MSM "news" source

If all goes according to plan, the Webb [Space Telescope] will be sent into solar orbit 1 million miles from Earth in 2013 and will do nothing less than peer out and back to the origins of the universe. Using a mirror many times as large and powerful as Hubble's, the telescope is designed to pierce the dusty clouds of the universe's instant past to the period approaching 13.7 billion years ago, when scientists calculate the big bang occurred. A primary goal will be to detect the formation of the first stars in the universe.

How are we possibly supposed to see what happened 13.7 billion years ago in a 6,000-year-old universe? Even the youngest homeschooled child can see how supremely silly that is, but our "greatest minds" don't get it.

Anyway, we don't need to see that far back, thanks to a fatal error in the sick-ular understanding of the heavens. The stars are not 13.7 billion light-years away. Instead, they are so close (and so small) that they can easily be knocked out of the heavens by a dragon's tail and fall to earth:

Revelation 12:4: And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

In case that part of it isn't ridiculous enough, ivory-tower intellectuals also think that the stars are suns, many of them much bigger than our own. Whom do they think they're kidding? How can such huge suns be knocked to the earth? Also, Scripture clearly states that the stars are different from the sun:

I Corinthians 15:41: [There is] one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for [one] star differeth from [another] star in glory.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Praise Jesus, these monkey-worshipers are a hoot, aren't they just? Thank you for bringing a good belly laugh to my day, Brother. I especially enjoyed this statement:

If all goes according to plan, the Webb [Space Telescope] will be sent into solar orbit 1 million miles from Earth in 2013 and will do nothing less than peer out and back to the origins of the universe.

Are they now claiming this telescope has magical properties? Is it some kind of "time machine"?

All we need to do is open the Holy Bible to the good book of Genesis if we want to know the origins of everything. We can save a huge amount of wasted tax dollars by keeping in mind these three words:

God made it.

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[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Rebuilding churches, learn kids more about Jesus...

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[Bert from Belgium]

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Maybe you guys haven't had an education in astrophysics (you probably think it's useless since billions of dollars of research money doesn't compete with a 5 dollar book for you)

fact: light moves a 2000 miles/second

IF you manage to see 2000 miles further you see how it was 1 second ago
as light is reflected from the object to your eye.

Now IF you managed to see say 2000 000 miles away (using a telescope) you would see it how it was a 1000 second ago
and so on.
So you CAN in fact look back in time, but only in places extremely far away.
no magic, just science

oh and the thing about the stars being extremely close makes little sense, if you have pictures from space they are still there! if they where so small you would simply not see them any more! they are even visible from the moon!

By the way ALL the mathematics work (the suns magnetic field the solar system turning haleys comet coming back every few decades (under influence of other(big) stars)
Couldn't it be that your god created more then one solar system ?
Maybe even more habitable worlds ?
for they have found another planet spinning around our closest star witch is 3.8x1016 m away ( or for the non scientific people among us 28 800 000 000 000 000 miles) . away !
we humans really aren't that significant(bigest man yet is 10 feet :p) . seeing everything from a human perspective is not always the correct one.

saying that high number are untrue is quite frankly * the sun is already 92,955,820.5 miles away! you certainly wouldn't deny the existence of the sun !

I'm happy to try and answer any question or remark you might have.
I hope you don't turn your back on science as a whole religion and science work together perfectly in working out how god make the universe. As for the dragon i think it is rather symbolical, for the evils that can befall earth, people in those days didn't know what stars where and where as such afraid of them...

[Bert from Belgium]

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Hmm I seem to have forgotten several punctuation marks
my apologies.

[Brother V]

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we humans really aren't that significant(bigest man yet is 10 feet :p) . seeing everything from a human perspective is not always the correct one.

Wow, you are smart.

Secular web site

The tallest man ever recorded was Robert Wadlow of Illinois who at his death was 8ft 11ins, that's 2.71m. He died in 1940 at the age of 22.

HOWEVER, if we read in the Bible, we find this guy named Goliath.

1 Samuel 17:4 And there went out a champion out of the camp of the Philistines, named Goliath, of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span.

So, how tall is sex cubits and a span?

For that we'll go to wiki.

The youth came before Saul and offered to fight the giant, who stood six cubits and a span (three meters, or 9' 6").

So the tallest man on record is Goliath, who was 9 foot 6 inches. 6 inches shorter than your undocumented 10 foot tall man.

You make claims about the height of people and are wrong about that, how can we believe any of the other things you say?

YIC
V

[OnYourKnees]

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Couldn't it be that your god created more then one solar system ?
Maybe even more habitable worlds ?

I'm happy to try and answer any question or remark you might have.
I hope you don't turn your back on science as a whole religion and science work together perfectly in working out how god make the universe. As for the dragon i think it is rather symbolical, for the evils that can befall earth, people in those days didn't know what stars where and where as such afraid of them...

I'm glad to see you're starting to accept the glory of God!

Some day, you'll happily forget that silly astrophysics nonsense, and realize that billions of dollars could have been saved by just reading a 5 dollar book . . .

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

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Genesis 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

He didn't say "Let there be stars and a sun", He said "Let there be light". The light from every heavenly body was bathing the Earth instantly! It's clearly written English, and perfect logic.

[Bert from Belgium]

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I really don't think that a tiny difference in the amount of feet somebody was makes a difference in my reasoning. It contrast is still clear.
Also the 10 feet I was talking about, I converted from metres to feet in which I used the abbreviation rules twice ( not the most exact way but certainly the easier one)
I'm trying to figure out how you guys are reasoning.
I never said GOD didn't exist, or that he didn't create the universe, but everything you see around you they traced back to one singular point in the universe, what is in that point ? nobody knows! maybe its God, maybe it's harry potter? but if you claim that the whole of astrophysics(which doesn't contain any mathematical anomaly) is wrong, you render the possible scientific existence of (a) God useless.
still I can't figure out why you would trust more on a book that was written in the middle ages. Only my point of view
happy to receive response

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I really don't think that a tiny difference in the amount of feet somebody was makes a difference in my reasoning. It contrast is still clear.
Also the 10 feet I was talking about, I converted from metres to feet in which I used the abbreviation rules twice ( not the most exact way but certainly the easier one)
I'm trying to figure out how you guys are reasoning.
I never said GOD didn't exist, or that he didn't create the universe, but everything you see around you they traced back to one singular point in the universe, what is in that point ? nobody knows! maybe its God, maybe it's harry potter? but if you claim that the whole of astrophysics(which doesn't contain any mathematical anomaly) is wrong, you render the possible scientific existence of (a) God useless.

Who needs scientific evidence for God? Science is only valid and acceptable when it tells us what we already know. If science contradicts what God tells us, then it's wrong. When you throw out the literal truth of Genesis, you throw out all reason for believing that God created the universe!

still I can't figure out why you would trust more on a book that was written in the middle ages. Only my point of view
happy to receive response

We trust that book because the Almighty God wrote it, you confounded wallaby! Will you be happy to accept Christ, or do you choose eternal damnation?

[Bert from Belgium]

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I think your reasoning is wrong, first off science can indeed (probably) never prove that God(s) exists, it can only prove what God(s) isn't/aren't. For example: When the Bible(yours the Catholics, the Thora the Koran - doesn't mather) was written they though everything: earthquakes , floods, lightning,... was caused by God. in fact they where all chemical/physical reactions! so it disproved that god was responsible, what they didn't disprove is that God might have created the atoms from which these chemical reactions accrued... but the reactions themselves are/where as a fact entirely random.

=> I don't believe in an interventionist God.

And please do not insult me "Brother Temperance", I never insulted anyone on this forum. Insults are often a last resort and closes any chance for dialogue.

[Brother Temperance]

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I think your reasoning is wrong, first off science can indeed (probably) never prove that God(s) exists, it can only prove what God(s) isn't/aren't. For example: When the Bible(yours the Catholics, the Thora the Koran - doesn't mather) was written they though everything: earthquakes , floods, lightning,... was caused by God. in fact they where all chemical/physical reactions! so it disproved that god was responsible, what they didn't disprove is that God might have created the atoms from which these chemical reactions accrued... but the reactions themselves are/where as a fact entirely random.

=> I don't believe in an interventionist God.

What possible reason could there be for believing in a non-interventionist God? Why would anyone ever think that God created the atoms which caused the physical reactions leading to the Great Flood? Either you believe in God in the terms which HE has described in the Book He left for us, or you have no reason to believe in any supreme being at all! Which is it?

[Deaner]

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=> I don't believe in an interventionist God.

And please do not insult me "Brother Temperance", I never insulted anyone on this forum.

Bert, he called you brainless. That's not an insult, it's an observation. And if you believe that God does not control things down here I'd have to agree with him.

How do you explain darkies having skulls that are approximately 5 times thicker than white men?

Dean