[Patriarch Jon]

Re: Evolution?

If we evolved from apes then why are apes still around?

We and apes are descended from a common ancestor, the problem with humans is some people exhibit more of their primitive primate past than others... I'm unsure whether baptism can help this problem.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Evolution?

Dr. Francis Collins, a devout christian and an accomplished scientist has provided a fresh persepective on creation and science. For a more detailed discussions and healthy debates, check out the BioLogos Foundation.

All in creation, not just a few scriptures, is the work of the one creator. There is no conflict between science and faith, the conflict is in the minds of thsoe who turn their back on all the creator has put in the world.

The man is obviously not a Christian. Evilution flies in the face of everything God says.

Go spread your lies somewhere else, "patriarch."

[Patriarch Jon]

Re: Evolution?

Surely you don't suggest that we turn our back on everything the creator has put in this world for us to see ? Frank Collins is surely a good servant of the lord who seeks to open your eyes with the truth.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Evolution?

Surely you don't suggest that we turn our back on everything the creator has put in this world for us to see ? Frank Collins is surely a good servant of the lord who seeks to open your eyes with the truth.

No, I suggest that we follow the entire Bible, not some God-mocking scientist named after a girl.

[Jupiter 7]

Re: Evolution?

Anybody who believes in Darwinism - specifically his 'evolution' theory - is ignoring all the biblical evidence to the contrary.

You'd think with so much at stake, people'd want to repent and be saved instead of immersing themselves in the devil's lies.

[ScienceisforFools]

Re: Evolution?

Anybody who believes in Darwinism - specifically his 'evolution' theory - is ignoring all the biblical evidence to the contrary.

Anybody who doesn't believe in Darwinism - specifically his evolution theory - is ignoring all the evidence!

[alex.siegel]

Re: Evolution?

If we evolved from apes then why are apes still around?

Humans didn't evolve from apes. We ARE a species of ape. The 4 Great Apes: People, Chimpanzees, Orangutans, and Gorillas.

Other apes exist because they are suited to their environments. Evolution doesn't mean that the old type just disappears. VERY long ago, a group of ancestors to both Chimpanzees and People were around. A group of them got isolated somehow. The isolated ones were in a different environment than thu were naturally intended for, so, the ones that were born smarter than they should be survived for longer. When he had kids, he passed the smartness on to his children. His children passed it down, etc. Now, lets say, we're a reall smart species. The retarded ones who are born with legs better suited for walking on 2 legs are better off, because they can use their hands for things. They have kids and their kids pass that trait on, etc. Do you see where I'm going with this?

[alex.siegel]

Re: Evolution?

Anybody who believes in Darwinism - specifically his 'evolution' theory - is ignoring all the biblical evidence to the contrary.

You'd think with so much at stake, people'd want to repent and be saved instead of immersing themselves in the devil's lies.

The Bible isn't evidence. It's a book. The only reason that you believe everything it says is because it tells you to.

It is LITERALLY a book that say this: "Believe me, this is THE truth. A man in the sky impregnated a virgin, and she had a magic baby. The Earth was made in 6 das and is 6000 years old. It is flat. And the center of the solar system. This is true."

How do you know it's not lying?

You have no reason to believe that the Bible is not lying, other than it tells you that it isn't.

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

Re: Evolution?

The Bible isn't evidence. It's a book. The only reason that you believe everything it says is because it tells you to.

It is LITERALLY a book that say this: "Believe me, this is THE truth. A man in the sky impregnated a virgin, and she had a magic baby. The Earth was made in 6 das and is 6000 years old. It is flat. And the center of the solar system. This is true."

How do you know it's not lying?

You have no reason to believe that the Bible is not lying, other than it tells you that it isn't.

Because the Bible can only reveal Truth™. And you forgot about the Holy Spirit who testifies to our souls of the blessed assurance (see Romans 8:16). Also, it gives me hope and feelings of joy and means my life is worth something. How can those feelings all be wrong?

Nevermind. I know you will have no good answer.

Regards,

Pastor Ed

[alex.siegel]

Re: Evolution?

Because the Bible can only reveal Truth™. And you forgot about the Holy Spirit who testifies to our souls of the blessed assurance (see Romans 8:16). Also, it gives me hope and feelings of joy and means my life is worth something. How can those feelings all be wrong?

Nevermind. I know you will have no good answer.

Regards,

Pastor Ed

It isn't logically sound to validate the legitimacy of a book or any other work with facts presented within it. That is simply not logically sound. Of course you can prove the Bible is true WITH information in the Bible. Essentially, in order to prove that the Bible is true, the Bible already has to be assumed to be true. Your "evidence" isn't evidence, it's the question.

"Is the Bible true?"

"We'll it says in the Bible that it is, so yes."

That only works IF the Bible is true, which it may or may not be. You can't use "The Holy Spirit" as evidence because it only exists if the Bible is truthful, which, again, it may or may not be.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Evolution?