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  • Christians and Cannabis

    The hypocrisy is truly amazing on this topic, regarding a previous post some time ago. It's rather frustrating when people just write without ALL the medical/biological facts and research involved.

    Jesus said not to criticize other people for their habits. "Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; that which cometh out of the mouth defileth a man." (Mat. 15:11) The apostle Paul wrote, I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean. … For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace and joy in the Holy Ghost. (Paul: Romans 14:14,17)

    I have a family member who has Alzheimer's disease. She had several FDA prescribed medicines (including Aricept and Namenda). All had major side effects, but did help in her daily routine to a certain degree. In short, the 3 major side effects were stomach cramps, nausea & lack of appetite. She lives in Washington (1 of 13 states which are legally medicinal for Marijuana) and was also precribed the supplemental medicine in food additive form. Long story short, she is off both FDA meds and has actually improved at a cognizant level, and without the ill side effects.

    God said, "Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed which is upon the face of all the earth.…To you it will be for meat." … And God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. (Genesis 1:29-31) The Bible predicts some herb's prohibition. "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times, some shall … speak lies in hypocrisy … commanding to abstain from meats which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. (Paul: 1 Timothy 4:1-3) Essentially we "shall not bear false witness" about people who use cannabis, nor judge them because that judgement is reserved to the Lord. The Lord hates those who speak lies and sow discord among brethern. For those people harrassed and imprisoned for using cannabis rightfuly, Jesus offers these words of comfort, "Blessed are those persecuted for righteousness's sake: For theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven." The Bible speaks of a special plant. "I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more." (Ezekiel 34:29) A healing plant. On either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare 12 manner of fruits, and yielding her fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. (Revelations 22:1-2) A gift from God.

    Even bioscience has proven that during biblical times cannabis was used in at least 12 ways: clothing, paper, cord, sails, fishnet, oil, sealant, incense, food, and in ceremony, relaxation and medicine. For so the Lord said unto me, "I will take my rest and I will consider in my dwelling place like a clear heat upon herbs. For afore harvest, when the bud is perfect and the sour grape is ripening in the flower, he shall cut off the sprigs with pruning hooks and take away and cut down the branches." (Isaiah 18:4-5)

    It was God who created cannabis hemp and told mankind to use "every green herb" on Earth. The Bible speaks of mercy, healing and a persecution of God's children. They persecute me wrongfully; help thou me. (Psalms 119:86) Prisons and drug wars do not save souls. The Lord… hath sent me to bind up the broken hearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives and the opening of the prison to them that are bound. (Isaiah 61:1)

    Teach God's truth. Warn your congregation that the war on marijuana is unchristian and must be ended. My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge; because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you will be no priest to Me … for I desired mercy and not sacrifice. (Hosea 4:6, 6:6) Remember: Every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused if it be received with thanksgiving…. If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine. (Paul: 1 Timothy 4:4-6)

    I could go on and on, but is it really worth it? You see, we all have preconceived notions/beliefs through whichever system we have been instructed. Yet w/out the facts/evidence/research, can we honestly say we know all? It is only our Lord above who knows all. Before we are quick to judge, let's take time to truly absorb ALL there is to absorb before pointing fingers at anyone. Lastly, regarding this topic, there is use and abuse. Water can actually be excessively abused to the point of death. Everything that has value still needs to follow the rule of moderation. Thanks for reading my book (ha, ha) and God bless you all!



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    Re: Christians and Cannabis

    tl;dr

    I suspect there was a lot of hippy whining though.
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    • #3
      Re: Christians and Cannabis

      Whatever, I hope your mom isn't rolling her joints with Bible pages!!!
      May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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        Re: Christians and Cannabis

        Originally posted by daveman View Post
        The apostle Paul wrote, I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean. … For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace and joy in the Holy Ghost. (Paul: Romans 14:14,17)
        Look -- don't drag the Apostle Paul into this. When he got stoned, it wasn't with cannabis.

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        • #5
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          I'm sorry, caveman, what were you yammering about?

          I got through the first 1/3 of your Wall O' Text, and fell asleep.
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          • #6
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            Don't worry Sister Jenny, daveman's rant probably only makes sense to people who have smoked too much reefer (I couldn't follow it myself). As for cannabis and Christians, remember 1 Corinthians 5:11

            But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

            I believe that 'a drunkard' in this verse means anyone intoxicated on something other than the Holy Spirit.
            Joshua 24:15
            And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

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            • #7
              Re: Christians and Cannabis

              God created poison ivy too. I don't see you hippies lining up to smoke that!
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              Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

              Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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              • #8
                Re: Christians and Cannabis

                Originally posted by daveman View Post
                The hypocrisy is truly amazing on this topic, regarding a previous post some time ago. It's rather frustrating when people just write without ALL the medical/biological facts and research involved.
                We aren't concerned with ALL the medical/biological facts and research. We aren't concerned with ANY of the medical/biological facts and research. We are concerned ONLY with God's will, as expressed in the Holy Bible, King James Version 1611.

                Jesus said not to criticize other people for their habits. "Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; that which cometh out of the mouth defileth a man." (Mat. 15:11)
                That is true. Jesus is not against inhaling marijuana smoke. He is, however, against exhaling it.

                The apostle Paul wrote, I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean. … For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace and joy in the Holy Ghost. (Paul: Romans 14:14,17)
                Romans 14 dealt with whether the dietary laws of the Old Testament applied to non-Jewish Christians. He concluded that they do not. I'm open to the idea, subject of course to the interpretation of the good pastors at Landover, that it's not sinful to eat marijuana, but no way does Romans 14 justify smoking it.

                I have a family member who has Alzheimer's disease.... Long story short, she is off both FDA meds and has actually improved at a cognizant level, and without the ill side effects.
                What did she do to piss God off so much that he inflicted Alzheimer's disease on her? Or was it something her parents or grandparents did? You should be careful, God often punishes sins onto the third generation.

                God said, "Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed which is upon the face of all the earth.…To you it will be for meat." … And God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. (Genesis 1:29-31)
                Yes, again, that doesn't cover smoking, just eating.

                The Bible predicts some herb's prohibition. "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times, some shall … speak lies in hypocrisy … commanding to abstain from meats which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. (Paul: 1 Timothy 4:1-3)
                Marijuana isn't a meat.

                Essentially we "shall not bear false witness" about people who use cannabis, nor judge them because that judgement is reserved to the Lord.
                Bearing false witness means lying about facts, not having a doctrinal interpretation different from your own. And judgement is not reserved to the Lord:

                Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear. 1 Timothy 5:20

                The Lord hates those who speak lies and sow discord among brethern.
                Indeed he does. That is why we tell the truth and do not sow discord among saved Christians.

                The Bible speaks of a special plant. "I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more." (Ezekiel 34:29)
                Cannabis increases hunger, it doesn't eliminate it. You got the wrong plant.

                Even bioscience has proven that during biblical times cannabis was used in at least 12 ways: clothing, paper, cord, sails, fishnet, oil, sealant, incense, food, and in ceremony, relaxation and medicine.
                What people did and what they should have done are not the same things.

                For so the Lord said unto me, "I will take my rest and I will consider in my dwelling place like a clear heat upon herbs. For afore harvest, when the bud is perfect and the sour grape is ripening in the flower, he shall cut off the sprigs with pruning hooks and take away and cut down the branches." (Isaiah 18:4-5)
                That is an instruction to prune, not to smoke.

                It was God who created cannabis hemp and told mankind to use "every green herb" on Earth.
                To use it "as for meat." Not to smoke it.

                The Lord… hath sent me to bind up the broken hearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives and the opening of the prison to them that are bound. (Isaiah 61:1)
                Should we free murderers while we're at it?

                Remember: Every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused if it be received with thanksgiving…. If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine. (Paul: 1 Timothy 4:4-6)
                Again, does this apply to murderers, too?

                I could go on and on, but is it really worth it?
                It hasn't been worth it for the last 5,000 words or so.

                You see, we all have preconceived notions/beliefs through whichever system we have been instructed. Yet w/out the facts/evidence/research, can we honestly say we know all?
                Now you're speaking in lists/catalogs/tabulations, but saying nothing/bupkis/zip.

                Before we are quick to judge, let's take time to truly absorb ALL there is to absorb before pointing fingers at anyone.
                You seem pretty quick to point your finger at us, you hypocrite.

                Lastly, regarding this topic, there is use and abuse. Water can actually be excessively abused to the point of death.
                Does that apply to, say, arsenic?

                Everything that has value still needs to follow the rule of moderation.
                Too bad you didn't apply the rule of moderation to the length of your post.

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                  Re: Christians and Cannabis

                  New to this forum or head-bashing conflicts of Christian beliefs and values…

                  I stumbled aCross this forum searching for evidence of the topic "is smoking weed" a sin against the Lord. Reason being, I'm suffering from chronic depression, overwhelming responsibilities, and of course "anxiety".

                  First off, he is without sin, let him cast the first stone - I'm sure after reading these "real Christian replies to people’s needs", someone will interpret "stones" into "stoner". And deliberately call me a fool or an idiot or a confused Christian, or whatever you all will conger up, we'll see...

                  Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Jesus come to heal the "sick", not the "healthy"? Or, does that apply to pre-salvation "law"? Or, is it post-salvation too? There are plenty of Christians out there today suffering from "many" attacks of this world and the last thing people need is someone telling them that "they must of done something really bad for God to curse them" for suffering chronic back pain, fatigue, stress, overwhelming confusion in terms. I have a few questions for you to ponder, as follows:

                  We must ask ourselves a serious question here in regards to the body as God's temple (I’ll keep it simple, for the simple):

                  1. Who here drinks soda? Diet or regular? Gatorade?
                  2. Who here eats an abundance of food to satisfy their mood?
                  3. Who here eats junk food?
                  4. Who here eats meat?
                  5. Who here can find "anything" on the grocery store shelving that doesn't carry an abundance of "ingredients"?
                  6. Who here actually researches the food that they put in their body?
                  7. Who here drives a vehicle (of course you're passing on emmisions on to the innocent and yourselves here)?
                  8. If we are to obey are government (that we put in place) and they turn around and tell you that you must kill a "suspected" terrorist, would you? Would you obey your government if they told you that you must abort your child because there are too many people in the world - could you obey your governing authorities then? If they are taking your tax dollars and supporting/funding abortions, would you stop paying taxes, or obey? How about the war funding of millions of murdered people, that you're paying for, is that grounds for obeying your government as well?

                  Simply stated, how do you live a life in today's world without filling your body with complete filth? Anyone have an answer to that? It's impossible! You can not do it! That is why we are saved by grace through faith, not how we “live”. We are “working” out our salvation on a daily basis. It’s a road that only each individual must follow with the Word, through the Holy Spirit, and “hopefully” a true supporting body of Christ!!

                  I would just like to add some information that might plant a little perspective here, do some research on the following topics through Google videos and/or YouTube and you may think a little differently about "submitting ourselves unto our government". As follows: Monsanto (the GMO's you eat), “In Lies We Trust, The CIA, Hollywood, and Bio-terrorism”, here's a good one, “Earthlings”, regarding the meat that you eat. You start opening up your minds a little and maybe you won't be so hard on the guy looking for some "natural remedies" for their own personal issues!!!!

                  In Peace

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                  • #10
                    Re: Christians and Cannabis

                    Originally posted by ktibble View Post
                    I stumbled aCross this forum searching for evidence of the topic "is smoking weed" a sin against the Lord. Reason being, I'm suffering from chronic depression, overwhelming responsibilities, and of course "anxiety".
                    Well, smoking wacky weed isn't the answer to your problems, friend. You are only going to create more problems for yourself that way. Maybe if you got off your butt and took care of your responsibilities, you wouldn't have anything to be anxious about, and that sense of accomplishment would do wonders for your depression. Instead, you are sitting around smoking dope, shirking your responsibilities, and letting things pile up, and you are wondering why you are anxious and depressed.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Christians and Cannabis

                      Originally posted by ktibble View Post
                      New to this forum or head-bashing conflicts of Christian beliefs and values…
                      tl;dr

                      How about you swing by the Introduction Forum and say "Hi", and tell us a little about yourself. I seriously doubt that anyone is going to do a point by point rebuttal of a drive-by first post from a stranger. I would be nice to see if you are serious, or just looking to troll.
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                      • #12
                        Re: Christians and Cannabis

                        Originally posted by daveman View Post
                        The hypocrisy..................blah blah blah blah........................ Thanks for reading my book (ha, ha) and God bless you all! /
                        NO use thanking me in advance. I won't be reading your book. So much fuss, just because you want to spit in Jesus face and get high! Poor Jesus already has enough trouble with those crazy homosexual catholics in black leather garb. Oh and I'm really excited about some old gal with Alzheimer's doing bong hits. I think I'll go clean the lint filter on my dryer!

                        PS The moment I smell that Devil weed coming out of your car or God forbid, blowing in my face is the same moment that I'll be calling 911!
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                        • #13
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                          First off, you are too quick to judge! I do not smoke "wacky-weed"...I was searching for opinions on Christians and Cannabis and I came across this wacked site.

                          However, I'm very interested in buying your certificate of salvation, how much is it again? Like 450.00US Dollars? How do I apply? I want to make sure that I'm going to Heaven and I think I might need this certificate when stand before the Lord. I know he will ask me if I accepted His Son through faith by purchasing the salvation certification. Please advise.

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                          • #14
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                            Originally posted by ktibble View Post
                            First off, you are too quick to judge! I do not smoke "wacky-weed"...I was searching for opinions on Christians and Cannabis and I came across this wacked site.

                            However, I'm very interested in buying your certificate of salvation, how much is it again? Like 450.00US Dollars? How do I apply? I want to make sure that I'm going to Heaven and I think I might need this certificate when stand before the Lord. I know he will ask me if I accepted His Son through faith by purchasing the salvation certification. Please advise.

                            For someone who doesn't smoke the whacky baccy you sure are interested in it.
                            A few points for you to mull over.

                            1. Weed makes you paranoid, delusional, and can make a person so depressed they take their own life.
                            2. Weed is addictive, and how do you think the idiots who smoke it find the money to buy it?.
                            And 3. Being sarcastic won't endear you to the Wonderful members of this Forum. Because unless I'm very much mistaken you ARE being sarcastic in this post.

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                              Originally posted by ktibble View Post
                              First off, you are too quick to judge! I do not smoke "wacky-weed"...I was searching for opinions on Christians and Cannabis and I came across this wacked site.

                              However, I'm very interested in buying your certificate of salvation, how much is it again? Like 450.00US Dollars? How do I apply? I want to make sure that I'm going to Heaven and I think I might need this certificate when stand before the Lord. I know he will ask me if I accepted His Son through faith by purchasing the salvation certification. Please advise.
                              I agree with Angels -- you sound like you are posting while high, and you are not coming across as very witty.

                              And yes, if you are purchasing Salvation from someone, make you get the extended warranty AND the money back guarantee. I'm sure that you'll want to cover all of your bases . . .
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