[OnYourKnees]

Re: Proof that god doesn't exist.

I believe that anything that can think and feel is able to live on somehow.

On what do you base that? Bugs can show compassion? When's the last time a mosquito repented of giving someone malaria?

A piece of bacteria cannot show compassion or emotion, but a human, and even an animal, can.

Er, how do you know what bacteria can or cannot feel? And how do you know what an animal feels?

Animals aren't humans. So please don't tell us you're a furry. Sister M&Ms hates furries, and so does Jesus.

If you don't think that there is something after life, then how do you explain sightings of ghosts and angels and other supernatural things?

Satan's trickery, what else?

Why, do you think somebody's mother's ghost is wandering a house two generations after her baby grew up and died, still singing it a lullabye? Is her record broken? What a horrific afterlife that'd be!

[SinisterPizza]

Re: Proof that god doesn't exist.

You SEE? see my point about defending myself from all sides?

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Proof that god doesn't exist.

Yes, they do live on. Animals, you can tell, have a spirit/soul about them. They aren't machines or rocks or innatimate object, they all have distinct personalities. I feel like I'm having to defend myself on all sides here, seriously. I'm not an atheist, but I'm not a Christian either (I know that I'm not "good" enough to be). I don't know what the afterlife is, but I believe that anything that can think and feel is able to live on somehow.

A piece of bacteria cannot show compassion or emotion, but a human, and even an animal, can.

So, according to your silly beliefs, one must be able to show compassion and emotion to live after death?
And otherwise, one is not even an animal??

Why do you discriminate against psychopaths so?
Don't you even consider them human?
How did you get this hateful?

And what about sharks?
No.. this is just another silly way to say that the things YOU like will live on after death.
You're not God, heathen, so you don't have a say on the matter.

[SinisterPizza]

Re: Proof that god doesn't exist.

Billions of other people eat chickens and fish. Do those animals live on somehow? Or are humans somehow superior? Dolphins are supposed to be more intelligent, and chimps very close in evolution to most NASCAR fans. Do they live on, as well?

Yes, they do live on. Animals, you can tell, have a spirit/soul about them. They aren't machines or rocks or innatimate object, they all have distinct personalities. I feel like I'm having to defend myself on all sides here, seriously. I'm not an atheist, but I'm not a Christian either (I know that I'm not "good" enough to be). I don't know what the afterlife is, but I believe that anything that can think and feel is able to live on somehow.

A piece of bacteria cannot show compassion or emotion, but a human, and even an animal, can.

If you don't think that there is something after life, then how do you explain sightings of ghosts and angels and other supernatural things?

What you ate for dinner is beside the point.

Says you.

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Proof that god doesn't exist.

At one point I was not.

So you agree that Creationism is correct?
Praise God, there is hope for you yet!

Billions of other people eat chickens and fish. Do those animals live on somehow? Or are humans somehow superior?

Yes, we are superior as we are among the few creatures who have souls. (ie immortal spirits)
God has a spirit, angels have them, demons have them, humans have them.

Animals however, don't.
They were created for the purpose of giving man something to rule and eat.

Dolphins are supposed to be more intelligent, and chimps very close in evolution to most NASCAR fans. Do they live on, as well?

Evilution is a lie. .

Bacteria grow, and you eat them, whether you want to or not. Do you expect to be knee-deep in swarming insects and bacteria in the afterlife?

No, but you'll be covered in worms if you go to hell!
Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
Mark 9:44

[Virginia Day Templeton]

Re: Proof that god doesn't exist.

5. Why is God such a huge proponent of slavery in the Bible?

#5. What's wrong with slavery?

Nothing at all, Brother. Nothing at all. Slavery is the bedrock of a healthy civilization, and its abolition is always followed by societal decline. Just look at where our country's been headed every since Stinkin' Lincoln raped the Constitution and got rid of it!

[Illustrator]

Re: Proof that god doesn't exist.

I know who I am, and I cannot imagine just going poof-gone. Things about everyone change, but there's still a central thing, that's just there. You don't know me, but what about yourself? Can you actually imagine that one day you will never be able to think, feel, or just be again?

Yes.

At one point I was not. Why should I expect that I should always be?

~sigh~ You really don't know me. I am a vegan, therefore I did NOT eat a chicken or a fish last night.

What you ate for dinner is beside the point.

Billions of other people eat chickens and fish. Do those animals live on somehow? Or are humans somehow superior? Dolphins are supposed to be more intelligent, and chimps very close in evolution to most NASCAR fans. Do they live on, as well?

Bacteria grow, and you eat them, whether you want to or not. Do you expect to be knee-deep in swarming insects and bacteria in the afterlife?

[SinisterPizza]

Re: Proof that god doesn't exist.

Why is it logical for part of you to continue to exist when your body dies? Merely because you are sentient?

Who is SinisterPizza? What is your personality, your "self", beyond a collection of experiences and the attitudes developed from those experiences?

Are you the same person now that you were ten years ago? Five? One? I know I'm not; I change daily through experiences which come to me and those I seek out. How then can "I" be eternal, if I can change dramatically in such short periods?

I know who I am, and I cannot imagine just going poof-gone. Things about everyone change, but there's still a central thing, that's just there. You don't know me, but what about yourself? Can you actually imagine that one day you will never be able to think, feel, or just be again?

How about the chicken or fish you had for dinner? Or the several thousand other chickens, fish, ducks, etc. you've eaten?

~sigh~ You really don't know me. I am a vegan, therefore I did NOT eat a chicken or a fish last night.

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Proof that god doesn't exist.

Wow, I'm amazed by your arguments.
If you think debatting is insulting the ones who have good arguments, then you should think again. If you avoid my arguments then you admit that you are wrong.

You've yet to put forward an argument.

"God doesn't exist" is a statement of your opinion. You do not back it up with any evidence. Nor do you back up any of your other assertions.

You are not debating, you are spouting the same childlike protestations over and over, hoping we'll throw away God and have faith in you instead. You'll have to do better than that.

Perhaps you could use a Holy Ghost enema!

Philemon 1:20 "Yea, brother, let me have joy of thee in the Lord: refresh my bowels in the Lord. "

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Proof that god doesn't exist.

That's the biggest nonsense I've ever heard. So God is a bad guy who tell's everybody to have as much as bacardi's as you like, so you can have a joy ride and kill everything in your path. Just because God says so?

No.
God simply ALLOWED him to drink that Bacardi, and get in his car and joy ride, killing everyone in his path.
It's called free will, moron.

And it's the same thing that allows you to go here and spew hatred against Him.
God doesn't stop evil because God doesn't care about the unsaved, so I can guarantee you, that there was not a single Saved person among the victims.

Dead = the end
Have you ever been there and do you remember it? NO!

Have YOU?
Double standards, my hypocrite friend.

So why can you know for sure that your god is above our heads making descisions for going to hell or going to heaven. There's no such thing as a hell below our feet. Below our feet is the centrosphere.

And how can you know for sure He isn't? You can't.
Double standards.

But you do agree that it is hot in the heart of the earth, basically a lake of magma and fire, yes?
That's because that's where hell is located!
You call it centrosphere, we know it to be hell, but our definitions of it are the same..

The Bible told us it was there, thousands of years before you scientists had any idea whatsoever.. What does that tell you?

That's an expression I do not know, because I'm not going to study all the expressions of every foreign country. If I tell you "hoogmoed komt voor de val", you don't understand it either. So stop nagging about the language etc. and stop with rond de pot te draaien!

Dear idiot, if I came to some dutch forum (or whatever language that is.) I wouldn't demand you to speak english, would I?
You're in an english speaking, American, forum..
Thus; speak english, preferably of the American variant.

1) Yes, scientists did. I'm just giving you the handling process.

That video you mean? Are you nuts?
It requires the statement "God loves everyone" to be true, for the video to prove ANYTHING.
It only disproves that statement..

But then, so does the Bible. God doesn't love everyone, and if you don't believe me, then look in the Bible.
Try reading Psalm 5:5 for instance..

2) Science is not a religion.

Right.. You're naive too I see.

Did God created himself? I think it's kinda boring when you are all alone in a not yet "created" universe...

No. God has always existed.
And indeed it probably was boring, and that's probably why He created angels, and later the earth, the stars, everything.

That came from out of the universe. It came together. The consequence was a very high presure and temperature so it exploded.

And where did THAT come from, fool?
Before the universe, there was WHAT? Nothing?
Are you saying that from nothing at all, something, without any reason whatsoever, came into existance??

Yes I do. Because this one has been proven, God ain't...

No, it hasn't been proven. The only thing that has been "proven" (ie claimed to have been proven by scientists) is that the universe expands..
That's why they ASSUME that the universe began in one small object that exploded.

It's called the THEORY of the big bang for a reason.

So why are you speaking of "DIE and go to heaven"
Nice contradictions, my compliments for that one!

There is no contradiction. Your soul still lives, it's just the body that dies.
Jesus however, has both body and spirit in Heaven, as He went up to Heaven without His body having died. Glory!

And why didn't you mention the part after my sentence. The part "And we are giving answers to Christians who say that God only "exists" on earth, and that other planets don't exist. So why involve other planets in this answer?" I think YOU are trying to weasle your way out of this. I don't see a contradiction.

You don't see a contradiction because you are extremely daft.
I involved "other planets" because you said: "Jesus is alive, why can't we see him on earth?"

To which I replied: "don't you secularists even believe in life on other planets?" to show how you contradict yourself.
You cannot believe that there are life on those "other planets" and then say that everything that is alive must be on earth.

It was a theoretical acceptance, for the sake of argument, of your silly idea that there are "other planets".
There aren't, but I was showing the inconsistency and lack of logic in YOUR ideas, by using those very ideas.

Why do you denie the existance of other planets then, if you say that God is everywhere. If you denie all the other planets, there aren't any planets left than earth. So yes, you said that god only existed on earth. (THAT's what we scientists call logical thinking)

If any scientist calls THAT "logical thinking" then I'm surprised they haven't lost their jobs..
(But then, you're not a scientist, just a dumb pre-teen.)

God exists on earth, God exists in Heaven, God exists in His creation, God exists in His works, God exists in the "outer darkness". (ie space)

Thus God is everywhere, and there is no contradiction.
You are simply being silly.

Well, I'm not the one who is believing in some kind of "imaginary friend"
So I think I'm a bit more intelligent than you are...

No, I fear him because he is dead and could come back to life at all time.

So you agree that you fear Him atleast?
And are you really that stupid that you can fear that He "might come back to life" and then say that He doesn't exist here:

And I'm here to tell you that there is no such thing as a god.

This is a new intellectual low, even for you.
Without God, how could the dead ever come back to life??

Jesus is alive btw.

And then your alarm clock went of?
Do you have a picture or did you forget it. ROFL

Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
Matthew 5:11

"Today, we're gonna hate some atheïsts. I don't know what an atheïst is, but we're gonna hate them!"

Like we wouldn't know what atheists are.. We knew before the word was invented, it is someone who denies God.

Thereof: "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God."
He who claims there is no God, he is an atheist.
And as you clearly demonstrates, and as the Bible tells us, you are damned fools.

Yeah, sow, I'm not Einstein, am I?

No, you're most certainly not!

Every scientist I've ever met, didn't believe in God. The reason is because today we have science and we are smarter than the time when the first bible was written. Nobody then ever knew that science would catch up with religion and even surpass it. Today, science IS surpassing religion, because science has realistic and non-made up statements which are proven.

No, that's because most scientists nowadays are damned fools.

BDW: God is everywhere you say? So also in your ass.. So who's gay...

Oh.. I take it this is one of your scientific and very mature statements?

The Holy spirit dwells in our hearts more so than our bowels, but God is everywhere in our bodies.
Like satan is everywhere in yours..

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Proof that god doesn't exist.

BDW: God is everywhere you say? So also in your ass.. So who's gay...

Yes friend, God does touch us to our very depths.

Philemon 1:20 "Yea, brother, let me have joy of thee in the Lord: refresh my bowels in the Lord. "

PRAISE!

[G-Baby]

Re: Proof that god doesn't exist.

He allowed it to happen, yes.
That's the biggest nonsense I've ever heard. So God is a bad guy who tell's everybody to have as much as bacardi's as you like, so you can have a joy ride and kill everything in your path. Just because God says so?

I agree. It won't help you much in THIS society, or THIS world.. (Although God has still blessed us with very much.)
But it helps in the next.. I'll go to heaven, while you will burn in hell, I'll call that a big difference.
Because God is the only one who deems you guilty or innocent of being a vile sinner, NOBODY else.
Dead = the end
Have you ever been there and do you remember it? NO! So why can you know for sure that your god is above our heads making descisions for going to hell or going to heaven. There's no such thing as a hell below our feet. Below our feet is the centrosphere.

I am?
Why can't you spell or construct a coherent sentence, I wonder?
So, you can't find an argument on my message so you're giving critic on my sentences etc? Thats low. And you could read it so far, so what's the problem?



Just what are you talking about??
Are you suggesting that I should somehow TALK to you, in a WRIT forum, instead?
Besides, it is an expression.. As all people who are not totally clueless already knows.
That's an expression I do not know, because I'm not going to study all the expressions of every foreign country. If I tell you "hoogmoed komt voor de val", you don't understand it either. So stop nagging about the language etc. and stop with rond de pot te draaien!



BUT YOU HAVE NOT DISPROVEN GOD, THEREFORE YOU CANNOT, EVEN ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN DEFINITON OF SCIENCE:
SAY THAT HE DOES NOT EXIST.

That's why you're being a stupid hypocrite.
You don't even know your own religion! (ie "science")
1) Yes, scientists did. I'm just giving you the handling process.
2) Science is not a religion.



I don't.
God is eternal and created the universe, that has nothing to do with nothing coming from something, or happening without a cause..
As in the big bang theory.
Did God created himself? I think it's kinda boring when you are all alone in a not yet "created" universe...



And that came from WHERE?
No matter how you twist it, big bang claims that something comes from nothing, without any cause whatsoever.
That came from out of the universe. It came together. The consequence was a very high presure and temperature so it exploded.
It is nothing short of preposterous.
And you regard such a theory more plausible than God, GET REAL!
Yes I do. Because this one has been proven, God ain't...




There is no contradiction, every single person in Heaven is alive.
If you read the Bible you'd know that.
So why are you speaking of "DIE and go to heaven"
Nice contradictions, my compliments for that one!



Nice attempt at weasling your way out of it..
You might want to read what you wrote again, and see that you contradict yourself all the time..
And why didn't you mention the part after my sentence. The part "And we are giving answers to Christians who say that God only "exists" on earth, and that other planets don't exist. So why involve other planets in this answer?" I think YOU are trying to weasle your way out of this. I don't see a contradiction.



We never said that God only exists on earth.
God is EVERYWHERE.
Why do you denie the existance of other planets then, if you say that God is everywhere. If you denie all the other planets, there aren't any planets left than earth. So yes, you said that god only existed on earth. (THAT's what we scientists call logical thinking)



Way to show how intelligent you are..
Well, I'm not the one who is believing in some kind of "imaginary friend"
So I think I'm a bit more intelligent than you are...


Aww, I am hurt by your accusations.. I truly am.
If you regarded Jesus as pure fiction, then WHY do you bother to come here and desperatly try to disprove him?
BECAUSE YOU FEAR THAT HE MIGHT EXIST! (Which He does.)
No, I fear him because he is dead and could come back to life at all time.
And I'm here to tell you that there is no such thing as a god.



Of course I have.
And then your alarm clock went of?
Do you have a picture or did you forget it. ROFL


The Bible is right about you all.. Atheists are damned fools.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.
They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14:1
"Today, we're gonna hate some atheïsts. I don't know what an atheïst is, but we're gonna hate them!"
I'm not going to do something that is written in a silly book without thinking about it...

Oh.. And Einstein, you know, the guy in your avatar..
He said that there is not a true scientist without belief in God! (He was a hellbound joo himself btw.)
Way to go to prove your own ignorance and stupidity.

Yeah, sow, I'm not Einstein, am I?

Every scientist I've ever met, didn't believe in God. The reason is because today we have science and we are smarter than the time when the first bible was written. Nobody then ever knew that science would catch up with religion and even surpass it. Today, science IS surpassing religion, because science has realistic and non-made up statements which are proven.

BDW: God is everywhere you say? So also in your ass.. So who's gay...

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Proof that god doesn't exist.

Wow, I'm amazed by your arguments.
If you think debatting is insulting the ones who have good arguments, then you should think again. If you avoid my arguments then you admit that you are wrong.

No one is avoiding you. You are getting plenty of attention nancyboy.

Denying the existence of God is nothing but an exercise in self-deception. You may know things, but you cannot account for anything you know. Arguing against God's existence would be on par with arguing against the existence of air, breathing it all the while. You use the universal, immaterial, unchanging laws of logic, mathematics, science, and absolute morality in order to come to rational decisions, but you cannot account for them. These laws are not the only way God has revealed himself to you, but they are sufficient to show the irrationality of your thinking, and expose your guilt for denying Him. Yes, your guilt.

There is a reason that you deny the existence of God and it has nothing to do with proof. I can show this to you. Do you think that you can continue to deny God because surely somewhere, sometime, a philosopher or scientist will come up with an explanation for universal, immaterial, unchanging laws apart from God?' Did you ever try to come up with an alternate explanation on your own?

Hoping that an alternate explanation for universal, immaterial, unchanging laws can someday be found apart from God, is a blind leap of faith, or wishful thinking. Isn't it interesting that this is exactly what you professed unbelievers accuse Christians of?

Please examine the real reasons why you are running from God. It is my prayer that God will open your eyes and change your heart so that you may be saved from your sin, embraced by His ferocious love, and that you will tithe robustly and immediately using the Paypal button at the bottom of this page.

[Brother Samuel]

Re: Proof that god doesn't exist.

#1 God chose to let the so-called "accident" happen that forced the amputation. The sooner you realize that God controls everything, including your fragile little heartbeat, the better.

#2 They would go to hell because they obviously aren't innocent. "Innocent" is what Hellywood would have you believe is innocent. True Christians™ follow different standards (The Holy KJV1611 Bible).

#3 No they aren't. The Bible says so.

Job 33:9 "I am clean without transgression, I am innocent; neither is there iniquity in me."

True Christians are all clean. They are free from iniquity. Most of the world is not.

#4 Then why do ALL the Creation Science experiments confirm what the Bible already says?

#5 The Bible tells us to.

Genesis 9:25 "And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren."

The sons of Canaan (the son of Ham, the son of Noah, etc.) are cursed with dark skin and the duty to be servants to the rest of the uncursed (sons of Shem, aka white people) because Ham offended God.

#6 Bad things do happen to everyone...except True Christians. We're blessed by God. You're not. Sorry about your luck.

#7 So disprove it.

#8 Extrabiblical sources confirmed the ressurection of Jesus. Prove that he wasn't raised.

#9 If Jesus says to eat his body and drink his blood, I'm going to do it. Jesus is the last person I would want mad at me. I imagine that being struck dead and cast into the pits of hell to be eternally tormented would be rather unpleasant.

#10 You have listened to Pastor Feelgood for far too long. The Bible requires several things to be saved. Among them is faith, i.e. what you mentioned. Another is works, i.e. doing what Jesus wants you to when he wants you to do it without so much as a seconds hesitation. There is more to being saved but in order to find out, you should purchase the plan of salvation. God knows you need it.

[Peter]

Re: Proof that god doesn't exist.

The Bible is the only real truth. Your monkey worshiping scientists are constantly force-feeding us all manner of nonsense they call "facts" and "truth" one day, then they go and say the exact opposite is "fact" and "truth", and then they expect us to swallow that too.

Friends, God never changes. God is the same today as He was when He created this earth around 6,000 years ago. God's truth never changes. Take this Peter fellow. I'll bet you dollars to donuts that he's a flaming sissyboy. Most of these Darwinistas are actually perverts who spend all their free time looking for ways to justify their degenerate lifestyle. They choose to commit "gay love" just like the monkeys in the jungle do, then want to have the secular scientists tell us how its "natural" and "involuntary" it is to shove their penis in another man's exit chute.

I just laugh when I see these nancyboys come in here shaking their fist at God.

Wow, I'm amazed by your arguments.
If you think debatting is insulting the ones who have good arguments, then you should think again. If you avoid my arguments then you admit that you are wrong.