Creation Ex Nihilo

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Creation Ex Nihilo

Another reason for apparent age is so that God can trick the unrighteous into believing in evil-ution and then damn them for believing in it:

2 Thess. 2:11-12: And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

[Brother Enoch]

Re: Creation Ex Nihilo

^^Now THAT makes sense!

Listen up, Theo, you can learn a lot at this forum. We're here to help.

Science can't explain the universe because science didn't create the Universe, God did. If science can't explain God, how can it explain God's creation? You're on a fool's errand boy, just like the evilutionists want you to be. Stop playing their game and crack open a KJV.

[One-eyed Jack]

Re: Creation Ex Nihilo

Brown's gas is used in some welding applications but it has no magical power to remove radioactivity. There is no physical basis for such an effect -- radioactivity is governed by the weak nuclear force and nothing in a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen, whether monatomic or diatomic, affects that.

The apparent age of the universe was set by God at the time of creation, as described in Genesis. Why? Consider:

If you wished to create a self-consistent universe, then you would automatically create it with the appearance of age. For instance, if you create an adult elephant then in order for it to be logically consistent -- to be simply believable! -- you would create it with worn teeth, with the scars and physical blemishes that are appropriate to an adult elephant.

God simply created the universe 6000 years ago but with all the appearances of great age. Light from a galaxy two billion lightyears away would not have had time to reach Earth in the 6000 years of the universe's existence, so God simply created the light in transit exactly as if it had been travelling for two billion years.

It is the same with radioactivity. God created the isotopes exactly as they would appear if the Earth were some 4 billion years old...even though He created the Earth only 6000 years ago.

A logically inconsistent universe would be less than a perfect creation. God is not less than perfect. Therefore He created the universe to be logically consistent: to have the appearance of great age.

This should be easy for you to understand, my friend.

O ye simple, understand wisdom: and, ye fools, be ye of an understanding heart. Proverbs 8:5

~~ OEJ

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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"The same judgment you judge others with, you are guilty of yourself."

That's not what it says. Here's the correct reading:

Matt. 7:2: For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

That verse doesn't condemn judgment; it merely condemns hypocritical judgment. Then again, you'd know that if you'd read the thread that you're supposed to read before posting.

[Bobby-Joe]

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"The same judgment you judge others with, you are guilty of yourself."

Well, genius, explain to me why evolutionists insist the earth is billions of years old? They do so based on radioactive decay, don't they? Thus, at the creation event - 6000 years ago - the act of creation itself left the creation with an apparent age of billions of years, didn't it? So, explain how that was accomplished.

They do it because they hate God so they make up nonsense like a "billion" year old earth to fool the weak of mind.

"Were in The Bible does it say "radioactive decay"? What is the source of "radioactive decay"?? The DARWINISTS!! You friend have feel for the Darwinist trick of observed evidence.

TRUE Science is about observing FACTS, not making up conclusions.

I just did and just because you people don't recognize the importance of this doesn't make it less true.

Just because you think you are smarter than God makes you right friend. I suggest you turn to The Bible and start doing some praying.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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What's that supposed to mean? Please tell your nurse that you need your meds.

[Theoferrum]

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Brown's Gas Are you some sort of jigaboo scammer trying to swindle God-Fearing Christians out of hard-won tithes?

"The same judgment you judge others with, you are guilty of yourself."

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Creation Ex Nihilo

"The same judgment you judge others with, you are guilty of yourself."

Well, genius, explain to me why evolutionists insist the earth is billions of years old? They do so based on radioactive decay, don't they? Thus, at the creation event - 6000 years ago - the act of creation itself left the creation with an apparent age of billions of years, didn't it? So, explain how that was accomplished.

I just did and just because you people don't recognize the importance of this doesn't make it less true.

Brown's Gas Are you some sort of jigaboo scammer trying to swindle God-Fearing Christians out of hard-won tithes?

The article to which I linked ends with: "EXTRAORDINARY CLAIMS REQUIRE EXTRAORDINARY EVIDENCE!" I agree

[Theoferrum]

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Friend,

This forum is about the discussion of hard Christian scientific fact. Not this superstitious nonsense about "atomic theory".

Are you some atheist out to mock Christianity with this nonsense?

"The same judgment you judge others with, you are guilty of yourself."

Well, genius, explain to me why evolutionists insist the earth is billions of years old? They do so based on radioactive decay, don't they? Thus, at the creation event - 6000 years ago - the act of creation itself left the creation with an apparent age of billions of years, didn't it? So, explain how that was accomplished.

I just did and just because you people don't recognize the importance of this doesn't make it less true.

[Bobby-Joe]

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Friend,

This forum is about the discussion of hard Christian scientific fact. Not this superstitious nonsense about "atomic theory".

Are you some atheist out to mock Christianity with this nonsense?

[Theoferrum]

I fail to see how this was removed from the Christian Science Forum just because this individual called it "mumbo-jumbo" when it is based on the Science involved at the Creation Event and proves that the Young Earth explanation of said creation is correct.

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Original Post:
http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?p=419909
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I just realized this last night and have posted it on a couple of forums and thought some of you may be interested.

And here is the Key to understanding the "Apparent Age" of the Geologic Strata that Creationists have been looking for.

It appears that Brown's Gas has the ability to decrease radioactivity to safe levels (which was known before the 'discovery' of Oklo, by the way, implying that event was a trial run using Brown's Gas) and this would make the waste material appear to be billions of years old and the conditions on the earth at the time of Creation (or Origin, if you prefer) and again at the flood perfectly mimiced this situation resulting in the strata of the earth appearing to be billions of years old when, in fact, it was not.

George Wiseman discusses Brown's Gas technology

According to George, the Brown's Gas has a number of constituents. Mostly, it is composed of diatomic hydrogen (H2) and diatomic oxygen (O2), as one would expect. However, one to three percent of the gas is comprised of monatomic hydrogen (H) and monatomic oxygen (O), which theoretically is not supposed to exist in a stable form. Somehow these are stabilized. George said he's had Brown's Gas stored for more than a year and it still functions as Brown's Gas.

http://pesn.com/2009/06/24/9501549_G...an_Browns_Gas/

Thermonuclear transmutation of nuclear waste

"Brown's Gas can efficiently neutralize radioactive waste though transmutation right at the reactor thus removing the need for transportation or storage of nuclear waste. Such application can revolutionize the nuclear industry. Former state assemblyman Dan Haley from New York investigated the lack of response after the US Department of Energy observed such demonstration of transmutation. The DOE argued 1) "the radioactivity was encapsulated in the sample", but the sample was crushed and the Geiger counter reading was the same. They argued 2) "the radioactivity must be disparaged into the atmosphere" while the department of health preformed in depth investigation of the environment. This much to the frustration of the nuclear physicist preforming the research for it suggested their incompetence. The laboratory was not closed clearly indicating no radioactivity was found in or around the building. "

http://forums.ec.europa.eu/debateeur...pic.php?t=6309

Browns Gas: The Workings

This tape also includes a bonus section showing the Reduction of Radioactivity of Americium 241 with the browns gas flame. Americium 241 has a 100,000 counts per minute of radiation form source, but a low energy gamma and alpha. The end product is 90% weight reduction of radioactive material.

http://www.nottaughtinschools.com/Yu...-Workings.html

Further Reading :

http://knol.google.com/k/gaby-de-wilde/yull-brown

Korean Browns gas machine manufacturer
http://www.browngas.com/eng_bestkorea/column.htm

Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ItyiJ1uBUY

Vitrification of Municipal Solid Waste Incinerator Fly Ash Using Brown's Gas
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ef049953z
Here - hot off the press - is the description of the formation of the earth and the reader can easily see that it fits the description for the production of Brown's Gas perfectly.

Building Planet Earth, Peter Cattermole, Cambridge University Press, 2000

Chapter Two : The Formation of the Earth

Modern Hypotheses (pg 13)

"It is usually considered that the Solar System began due to the contraction of the Solar Nebula."

Chapter Three : The Primaeval Earth

Birth of a Planet (pg 17 and 18)

"The Modern view is that the Earth, like the other Solar System Bodies, accumulated rather quickly from a cloud of Dust and Gas surrounding the Proto-Sun, i.e. the Solar Nebula."

"In the case of the earth, it is thought that growth began with dust-sized grains which, with the assistance of weak Electrostatic Forces, were converted into centermetre-sized particles."

The Primary Atmosphere (pg 20)

"The Earth's Primordial Atmosphere was almost certainly rich in Water Vapour, Carbon Dioxide, Carbon Monoxide (CO), Nitrogen, Hydrogen Chloride and Hydrogen. Most of the Hydrogen quickly escaped into space, while some of the Water Vapour in the upper atmosphere was broken down by Sunlight into Hydrogen and Oxegen, the latter escaping and combining with Gases like Methane (CH4) and Carbon Monoxide to form Water (H2O) and Carbon Dioxide."
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