[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: A question to stump biologists and ScIeNtists!

Where are giants mentioned in the NT?

That's got nothing to do with anything. Joos can and will claim their gobbledygook means anything they want if it helps subvert God's Word.

[Stevie]

Re: A question to stump biologists and ScIeNtists!

Blah blah blah. Prove this nonsense using the King James 1611 Bible, the LITERAL WORD OF GOD! A giant is a giant. I'd rather trust the LORD over some joos that try to subvert His Word by claiming that giants aren't giants.

Where are giants mentioned in the NT?

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: A question to stump biologists and ScIeNtists!

"Giants" is the Hebrew word nephilim, which has little or nothing to do with being tall and muscular but refers to cultural leadership. God is describing the culture immediately before the Flood. Nephilim has to be seen in that context. These Nephilim—giants not in size but in influence—were establishing evil, deceitful, violent, and enslaving leadership. They were "men of renown," which literally means they were men of name. In other words, they had a reputation, but that term is used in a derogatory sense. These were not good characters.

Blah blah blah. Prove this nonsense using the King James 1611 Bible, the LITERAL WORD OF GOD! A giant is a giant. I'd rather trust the LORD over some joos that try to subvert His Word by claiming that giants aren't giants.

[Stevie]

Re: A question to stump biologists and ScIeNtists!

Not all of our ancestors were giants (though some certainly were, see below), but some of them were. So of course they would have had larger jawbones, though that doesn't mean they had more teeth. There is nothing "rudimentary" in God's design.

Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

There are more mentions of giants in scripture, but one is more than enough to prove that giants did exist.

"Giants" is the Hebrew word nephilim, which has little or nothing to do with being tall and muscular but refers to cultural leadership. God is describing the culture immediately before the Flood. Nephilim has to be seen in that context. These Nephilim—giants not in size but in influence—were establishing evil, deceitful, violent, and enslaving leadership. They were "men of renown," which literally means they were men of name. In other words, they had a reputation, but that term is used in a derogatory sense. These were not good characters.

How did the number system of the Babylonians "obliterate" my argument? The Babylonians were known defiers of God! Look at the tower they worked on! It's because of them that the world now has nonsense gibberish languages like Chinese and French! It just makes sense that they'd also invent a ridiculous numerical system to rebel against God.

I'll get to this later, I'm working.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: A question to stump biologists and ScIeNtists!

You are correct brother and, you've just obliterated the OP's argument. Thank you Sir you've save me some time.

You missed my point entirely. You said that we use a base-10 because we have 10 fingers and 10 toes. So if the Babylonians used a base-60, that invalidates your point, because they should've used base-10 according to your logic.

However, we know that the Babylonians were heathens who worshipped idols whom God ultimately brought down. They also rebelled against God by not using the base-10 system which is natural, and created their own base-60 system.

So the facts remain:
1) God designed us to have 10 fingers and 10 toes so it is in accordance with base-10 mathematics.
2) The Babylonians rebelled against God in many ways, including introducing base-60.

In no way did I destroy Sister Mary Maria's argument; rather I augmented it with truth.

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

We don't. Ever heard of wisdom teeth? They are rudimentary teeth left over from our ancestors who had larger jawbones.

Not all of our ancestors were giants (though some certainly were, see below), but some of them were. So of course they would have had larger jawbones, though that doesn't mean they had more teeth. There is nothing "rudimentary" in God's design.

Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

There are more mentions of giants in scripture, but one is more than enough to prove that giants did exist.

You are correct brother and, you've just obliterated the OP's argument.

How did the number system of the Babylonians "obliterate" my argument? The Babylonians were known defiers of God! Look at the tower they worked on! It's because of them that the world now has nonsense gibberish languages like Chinese and French! It just makes sense that they'd also invent a ridiculous numerical system to rebel against God.

[PackJason3]

Re: A question to stump biologists and ScIeNtists!

May I suggest another one? Why do we have the perfect number of teeth to fit on our mouths?

We don't. Ever heard of wisdom teeth? They are rudimentary teeth left over from our ancestors who had larger jawbones.

[Stevie]

Re: A question to stump biologists and ScIeNtists!

My name is Pastor Ezekiel, not "Pasture Zek." Show some respect to your betters, punk.

If you cannot adhere to the standard rules of grammar, spelling and punctuation inherent in God's favorite language (American!), then we will have to ask you to leave.

That includes the reasonable use of the "Shift" key that God so thoughtfully provided your computer.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

You guys don't play fair, I love it! I always respect my betters Big Z.

That's not true at all. The Babylonians used a base 60 numerical system. Therefore your argument holds no water.

You are correct brother and, you've just obliterated the OP's argument. Thank you Sir you've save me some time.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: A question to stump biologists and ScIeNtists!

Because, it's human nature to count with your fingers. Pasture Zek, please stop infracting me. It's totally uncalled for. Thank you good sir.

That's not true at all. The Babylonians used a base 60 numerical system. Therefore your argument holds no water.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: A question to stump biologists and ScIeNtists!

Because, it's human nature to count with your fingers. Pasture Zek, please stop infracting me. It's totally uncalled for. Thank you good sir.

My name is Pastor Ezekiel, not "Pasture Zek." Show some respect to your betters, punk.

If you cannot adhere to the standard rules of grammar, spelling and punctuation inherent in God's favorite language (American!), then we will have to ask you to leave.

That includes the reasonable use of the "Shift" key that God so thoughtfully provided your computer.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

[Stevie]

Re: A question to stump biologists and ScIeNtists!

^ We've got 2 arms, 2 legs, 2 eyes, 2 ears, why not a binary system?

Because, it's human nature to count with your fingers. Pasture Zek, please stop infracting me. It's totally uncalled for. Thank you good sir.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: A question to stump biologists and ScIeNtists!

^ We've got 2 arms, 2 legs, 2 eyes, 2 ears, why not a binary system?

[Stevie]

Re: A question to stump biologists and ScIeNtists!

Excellent question! Irreducible complexity!

We have a ten digit numerical system becuase we evolved 10 fingers and 10 toes. Had we evolved something different, we'd have a different number system.

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: A question to stump biologists and ScIeNtists!

Excellent question! Irreducible complexity!

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: A question to stump biologists and ScIeNtists!

Thank you, Sister. That was very well put.

May I suggest another one? Why do we have the perfect number of teeth to fit on our mouths? Creationism explains that (and everything else) perfectly, but Darwinista monkey-worship has a problem with it. Under evil-utionist dogma, as our faces evolved from ape-like to human-like, the same number of teeth of a shortened muzzle would result in an excessive number of teeth.