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  • PackJason3
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    Re: Evolution Is A Fact

    Originally posted by Rev. Jim Osborne View Post
    Bats are birds. Birds fly, mammals don't. They're a very strange type of bird, indeed, but a bird nonetheless.
    What? You are so wrong that I don't even know how to respond...

    Bats are NOT birds ... this is something that you should have learned in 3rd grade science class. Bats don't lay eggs and they don't have feathers. They are mammals. Pretty much a mouse with wings.

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  • PackJason3
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    Re: Evolution Is A Fact

    Originally posted by Brother Hank View Post
    What sceintist in the world has EVER seen a fish grow legs and lungs and turn into a warm blooded lizard? What sceintist has EVER seen an ape give birth to a human child? None!
    There are fish that have lungs in fact. You kind of just lost your own argument with that one. Mud Guppies crawl out of the water and move around on the beach using their front fins like legs. It is very much like how fishes evolved to amphibians. Put the two together... you have a fish with both gills and lung, and you have a fish that walks on land.

    Every person in the world has seen an ape give birth to a human. You know why? Because humans ARE apes. We are members of the Great Ape Family. We didn't evolve from any present day apes, we evolved from lesser developed apes.

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  • Pastor Isaac Peters
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    Re: Evolution Is A Fact

    Originally posted by PackJason3 View Post
    Why would god laugh at his beloved creation for using the minds that he gave to us?
    God gave us our minds so that we could glorify Him, not mock Him:

    Prov. 3:5: Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

    Why do you think that they have to make a new flu vaccine every year? The virus evolves and becomes resistant to the previous year's vaccine. This is evolution happening right before our eyes.
    Not every change in a life form is evolution. If I don't give a houseplant enough light, it becomes tall and spindly; is that evolution? Also, that isn't an example of change from one Biblically defined kind to another; the flu virus changes into a different variety of flu virus, not into a parakeet.

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  • Rev. Jim Osborne
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    Re: Evolution Is A Fact

    Originally posted by PackJason3 View Post
    Well, since the bible says that bats are birds when we know full well that bats are mammals, I'd say the Bible can be wrong about his creation.
    Bats are birds. Birds fly, mammals don't. They're a very strange type of bird, indeed, but a bird nonetheless.

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  • Hank
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    Re: Evolution Is A Fact

    Originally posted by PackJason3 View Post
    Well, since the bible says that bats are birds when we know full well that bats are mammals, I'd say the Bible can be wrong about his creation.
    Bats have wings and they fly. So they are birds. Which part of that dont you understand?

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  • PackJason3
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    Re: Evolution Is A Fact

    Originally posted by Pastor Isaac Peters View Post
    It is a book inspired by God. Are you saying that you know better than the Creator how things were created?
    Well, since the bible says that bats are birds when we know full well that bats are mammals, I'd say the Bible can be wrong about his creation.

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  • Rev. Jim Osborne
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    Re: Evolution Is A Fact

    Originally posted by PackJason3 View Post
    Right, and obviously for speciation to occur, it would require evolution.
    No, evolution is not required. Especially since the Genesis account gives us an accurate explanation to how man was created: By animating dust with a divine breath. It doesn't say that men evolved from apes.

    Originally posted by PackJason3 View Post
    First of all, Genesis is not a fact, it is a book. Second, a scientific theory is comprised of thousands of facts to explain a natural occurrence. Look at it this way; if if you hold a stone in your hand and drop it, it is a fact that it will fall to Earth. Now, the Theory of Gravity explains why the stone falls to Earth. In this regard, a scientific theory is held to a higher standard than a fact. A fact is just something that happens, the theory is its explanation.
    Genesis is a book and fact. The Bible tells us that it is so...

    2nd Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

    2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.


    Obviously the Bible is of divine origin, so certainly it makes more sense to believe what God says instead of some eggheaded scientist in a labcoat says, right?

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  • Hank
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    Re: Evolution Is A Fact

    Originally posted by PackJason3 View Post
    First of all, Genesis is not a fact, it is a book. Second, a scientific theory is comprised of thousands of facts to explain a natural occurrence. Look at it this way; if if you hold a stone in your hand and drop it, it is a fact that it will fall to Earth. Now, the Theory of Gravity explains why the stone falls to Earth. In this regard, a scientific theory is held to a higher standard than a fact. A fact is just something that happens, the theory is its explanation.
    A stone will fall, thats a fact. Unless God Wills it not to fall then it won't. Thats also a fact.

    Now for your stupid argument of comparing gravity with evolution saying they are both "facts" let me ask you this: When defining gravity are we speculating about something that we claim happened over millions of years (when no one was there to see it) or are we observing a stone fall with our own eyes? What sceintist in the world has EVER seen a fish grow legs and lungs and turn into a warm blooded lizard? What sceintist has EVER seen an ape give birth to a human child? None! No one has! Its all speculation devised by the devil to stop people from coming to know Jesus.

    If evolution was true then cats would have grown tin openers on their hands by now.

    Friend, are you going to fall for this evil scheme of satan or will you accept Christ as your Lord and Saviour?

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  • PackJason3
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    Re: Evolution Is A Fact

    Originally posted by Brother Hank View Post
    What you call "theory" is merely mans wisdom and God does not have to play by mans rules. He laughs at us when we think we've discovered something new when really He is the creator of everything.

    A prudent man concealeth knowledge: but the heart of fools proclaimeth foolishness (Proverbs 12:23)

    PackJasin your clearly a fool and folly is spewed forth from your pie-hole. Go read the Bible (KJV1611) cover to cover, pray that Jesus opens your eyes to the truth, and then come and tell us evolution is "fact".
    I have read the Bible. I took bible study until early adulthood. Why would god laugh at his beloved creation for using the minds that he gave to us?

    Why do you think that they have to make a new flu vaccine every year? The virus evolves and becomes resistant to the previous year's vaccine. This is evolution happening right before our eyes.

    Just because evolution is a fact doesn't mean that god doesn't exist.

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  • Pastor Isaac Peters
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    Re: Evolution Is A Fact

    Originally posted by PackJason3 View Post
    First of all, Genesis is not a fact, it is a book.
    It is a book inspired by God. Are you saying that you know better than the Creator how things were created?

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  • PackJason3
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    Re: Evolution Is A Fact

    Originally posted by Rev. Jim Osborne View Post
    Which just shows the severe limits of secular science. Science deals in theories, God deals in facts. The Genesis creation account is not a "theory", it is a Fact. Wouldn't you say a Fact has more weight than a Theory?
    First of all, Genesis is not a fact, it is a book. Second, a scientific theory is comprised of thousands of facts to explain a natural occurrence. Look at it this way; if if you hold a stone in your hand and drop it, it is a fact that it will fall to Earth. Now, the Theory of Gravity explains why the stone falls to Earth. In this regard, a scientific theory is held to a higher standard than a fact. A fact is just something that happens, the theory is its explanation.

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  • Hank
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    Re: Evolution Is A Fact

    Originally posted by PackJason3 View Post
    A scientific theory and the word "theory" as used in common speech aren't the same. A theory in science is the highest description of a fact or natural occurrence. Evolution happens, the Theory of Evolution explains how and why it happens. It is just like the Theory of Gravity. Gravity happens, the Theory of Gravity explains how and why it happens.

    So now I ask you, is gravity "just a theory?"
    What you call "theory" is merely mans wisdom and God does not have to play by mans rules. He laughs at us when we think we've discovered something new when really He is the creator of everything.

    A prudent man concealeth knowledge: but the heart of fools proclaimeth foolishness (Proverbs 12:23)

    PackJasin your clearly a fool and folly is spewed forth from your pie-hole. Go read the Bible (KJV1611) cover to cover, pray that Jesus opens your eyes to the truth, and then come and tell us evolution is "fact".

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  • PackJason3
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    Re: Evolution Is A Fact

    Originally posted by Rev. Jim Osborne View Post

    Obviously for something to rain out of heaven would require gravity. .
    Right, and obviously for speciation to occur, it would require evolution.

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  • Rev. Jim Osborne
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    Re: Evolution Is A Fact

    Originally posted by PackJason3 View Post
    A scientific theory and the word "theory" as used in common speech aren't the same. A theory in science is the highest description of a fact or natural occurrence. Evolution happens, the Theory of Evolution explains how and why it happens. It is just like the Theory of Gravity. Gravity happens, the Theory of Gravity explains how and why it happens.

    So now I ask you, is gravity "just a theory?"
    Which just shows the severe limits of secular science. Science deals in theories, God deals in facts. The Genesis creation account is not a "theory", it is a Fact. Wouldn't you say a Fact has more weight than a Theory?

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  • PackJason3
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    Re: Evolution Is A Fact

    Originally posted by Nobar King View Post
    Evolution is just a theory. Where did you go to school??
    A scientific theory and the word "theory" as used in common speech aren't the same. A theory in science is the highest description of a fact or natural occurrence. Evolution happens, the Theory of Evolution explains how and why it happens. It is just like the Theory of Gravity. Gravity happens, the Theory of Gravity explains how and why it happens.

    So now I ask you, is gravity "just a theory?"

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