Is it really possible to erase a single memory?

[Kazoo]

Researchers led by New York University neuroscientist Joseph LeDoux recently claimed to be the first scientists to erase a single memory. Working with rats, LeDoux's team first taught the animals to fear both a beep and a siren by giving them an electric shock every time either of the tones sounded. Then LeDoux gave half the rats the drug U0126, which is known to interfere with memory storage, and replayed the beep without electric shocks.

A day later, when Le Doux plated back both tones to the rats, the animals that hadn't been given the drug were still fearful of both sounds. But the rats that had been given the memory-blocking drug weren't afraid of the beep, which they had last heard while under the influence of U0126.

Exactly how U0126 exerts its amnesiac effect is unknown, but it may block the synthesis of proteins that help strengthen connections between neurons and establish memories. The opportunity for erasure occurs during the act of retrieving a memory because that's when the memory is being updated and stabilized again for long-term storage...

So, this obviously could help ease post-traumatic disorders in persons who have remaining mental scars from a significant trauma that they experienced earlier in their life. Of course, you've got to wonder what the limitations of the drug are and whether or not the memories are liable to resurface in the long run. Admittedly, it could become increasingly troublesome to recreate a traumatic experience in a safe condition that would alleviate the victim's said memories. For example; many cases might very well involve incredibly complex and intrinsic scenarios which would have to be created in some amount of detail for the original memory to be sufficiently repaired.

But, what does everyone here think of this, aside from the garish religious atrocities I am sure that you can find in it?

[Brother Temperance]

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But, what does everyone here think of this, aside from the garish religious atrocities I am sure that you can find in it?

I predict that, if this works, the Mary-Worshippers will start putting it in their death cookies before feeding them to the altered boys. It'll save them a fortune in compensation.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Its just a bunch of joo claptrap. None of that's in the Bible. Why do you post such nonsense in our Godly Forum?


We want to talk about Jesus, who temporarily suffered and died for our sins.

[Kazoo]

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Its just a bunch of joo claptrap. None of that's in the Bible. Why do you post such nonsense in our Godly Forum?


We want to talk about Jesus, who temporarily suffered and died for our sins.

Eh, found it to be interesting. Of course, nothing about embryonic development, modern medicine, etc. is in the Bible either. Damn those lying Jews, trying to keep me healthy... Bastards.

[Virginia Day Templeton]

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Eh, found it to be interesting. Of course, nothing about embryonic development, modern medicine, etc. is in the Bible either. Damn those lying Jews, trying to keep me healthy... Bastards.

These things are superfluous at best, soul-damning at worst. God makes us sick in order to punish us or test our faith -- trying to get out of His plan just ticks Him off more.

As for embryonic development -- who cares? If it grows in your cooter, it's a baby and neither you nor your cow worshiping doctor have any right to murder it.

[Andrew Shaw]

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Its just a bunch of joo claptrap. None of that's in the Bible. Why do you post such nonsense in our Godly Forum?


We want to talk about Jesus, who temporarily suffered and died for our sins.

Dont insult jews, jesus was a jew. infact the first cristians called themselvs neo-jews so keep 'joo' out of your insults for the sake of common sense.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Dont insult jews, jesus was a jew. infact the first cristians called themselvs neo-jews so keep 'joo' out of your insults for the sake of common sense.

Look, for the one-millionth time: JESUS WAS NOT A JOO!

His father is God, who is certainly not a hook-nosed yid. Mary was just the oven Jesus was baked in. He is GOD after all. And why would God be a damned joo, when they are the ones who had Christ killed? It doesn't even make sense boy!

Did you put your spikes on upside down today? Are they poking down into your brain?

[Rachael Van Helsing]

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So, this obviously could help ease post-traumatic disorders in persons who have remaining mental scars from a significant trauma that they experienced earlier in their life. Of course, you've got to wonder what the limitations of the drug are and whether or not the memories are liable to resurface in the long run. Admittedly, it could become increasingly troublesome to recreate a traumatic experience in a safe condition that would alleviate the victim's said memories. For example; many cases might very well involve incredibly complex and intrinsic scenarios which would have to be created in some amount of detail for the original memory to be sufficiently repaired.

But, what does everyone here think of this, aside from the garish religious atrocities I am sure that you can find in it?

Humans are not rats. And I have trouble believing a memory could be erased. Repressed, yes (like what electroshock treatments are meant to do to some). Erased, no. It'd always be in there somewhere, and could probably be recovered one way or another.
And blocking out memories is not the way to deal with a traumatic situation. That's like slapping on a bandaid. Underneath it, the wound still festers. Better it be out in the open and dealt with properly.

Not to mention that has the potential for horrendous side effects. Interfering with the brain with experimental drugs?? Don't all the mutant and/or zombie movies teach people ANYTHING??

[Virginia Day Templeton]

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the first cristians called themselvs neo-jews

It was probably Catholics who did that -- and they are NOT the first Christians, nor even Christians at all. They (the Romans) were the ones who used to throw Christians to the lions back in the olden days, until one of their emperors decided he could make an extra buck if he blended Christianity with the paganism and Satanism that were so popular among the wops. Little did he know just how popular it would become. Pastor Deacon Fred explains it all HERE.

[lilith]

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Humans are not rats. And I have trouble believing a memory could be erased. Repressed, yes (like what electroshock treatments are meant to do to some). Erased, no. It'd always be in there somewhere, and could probably be recovered one way or another.
And blocking out memories is not the way to deal with a traumatic situation. That's like slapping on a bandaid. Underneath it, the wound still festers. Better it be out in the open and dealt with properly.

Not to mention that has the potential for horrendous side effects. Interfering with the brain with experimental drugs?? Don't all the mutant and/or zombie movies teach people ANYTHING??

Oh I dunno....it has possibilities.
The benefits of being able to erase an ultra religious upbringing would surely be worthwhile.

[Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.]

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It would certainly help in ministering to the Muslims -- removing any memory of their godless "Coran" would certainly be beneficial!

[Unsaved and Loving It]

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It'd be interesting though. Whatever one would use to purge the brain of a memory, would have to be some kind of neuro toxin. I can't see how it wouldn't have potentially lethal side effects.

I mean, think about it. The human brain is a wondrous machine. There is even evidence that humans can manipulate kinetic energies with our minds (read up on psychokinesis). We can also cut each other open and use delicate machines to fix the smallest of problems. We've also built huge cities of steel. If you human brains can conceive such things, imagine what would be needed to impair it's function in such a pin-point and precise way. Yeap.

And imagine the uses the drug could have if abused. Date rape stats would go through the roof. And of course, brainwashing (as the good doctor already noted).

[Kazoo]

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It'd be interesting though. Whatever one would use to purge the brain of a memory, would have to be some kind of neuro toxin. I can't see how it wouldn't have potentially lethal side effects.

Well, in all honesty, everything can be lethal if taken in excess. I would imagine that in small quantities, the drug leaves no lasting effects.

I mean, think about it. The human brain is a wondrous machine. There is even evidence that humans can manipulate kinetic energies with our minds (read up on psychokinesis).

Ooh! Would you be referring to Einstein's work and equations on the interrelatedness of matter and energy? Rather a far-out proposal to base the premises of psychokinesis and the like on such, though nonetheless potentially viable.

We can also cut each other open and use delicate machines to fix the smallest of problems. We've also built huge cities of steel. If you human brains can conceive such things, imagine what would be needed to impair it's function in such a pin-point and precise way. Yeap.

And imagine the uses the drug could have if abused. Date rape stats would go through the roof. And of course, brainwashing (as the good doctor already noted).

Yeah... of course, the human brain is far more complex than a rat's and recreating traumatic experiences in the like in enough of their entirety to alter the original memory could prove to be quite a challenge...