[Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.]

Re: Pi Calculated to 4.5 billion decimal places

Glory! Another identity just as powerful, true and simplistical as Euler's!

[H. Montague Worthington]

Re: Pi Calculated to 4.5 billion decimal places

Here's another frightening calculation involving pi....

+ = 0

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Pi Calculated to 4.5 billion decimal places

Flawed. You use the term Pi repeatedly in your calculations. This means either that (1) you use the traditional value of Pi, thus admitting that you are wrong, else (2) you use your improvised result, thus proving nothing in your formula.

By "traditional value of Pi", do you mean 3.57?

[Joo]

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Where've you been travelling to, you International Joo? Venezuela? Cuba? North Korea? Massachusetts?

I haven't left the country no. I just have gone from most states in the PNW.

As opposed to computations that don't involve numbers?

Alright I'll admit my statement was flawed, I should have worded it differently.

It's exactly as I expected, then - you are a "Fellow Traveller!!!"

COMMUNISS! Where did you come from, St. Odo of Clune? (If so - are the Sisters still raffling off outboard motors, and how much does it cost to buy a chance now?)

...Seriously, what are you talking about?

[Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.]

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Do you follow simple math at all? The reason that pi is involved in the calculations is because I am solving for it. It's called algebra: you isolate the variable you are solving for. That's why it's involved.

[Kazoo]

Re: Pi Calculated to 4.5 billion decimal places

Flawed. You use the term Pi repeatedly in your calculations. This means either that (1) you use the traditional value of Pi, thus admitting that you are wrong, else (2) you use your improvised result, thus proving nothing in your formula.

Would I be correct in saying this?

(And chances are that, yes, I am overlooking something, but, ah well. Not much you can do about that)

[Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.]

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For those scoffers out there (), I have spent a great deal of time in prayer and supplication, and have determined that it would be for the best for me to prove this using advanced calculus. Using methods that I have helped to further myself, I have proven this, beyond any shadow of doubt. Attached you will find my work, straight from the desk of Dr. Ernest. Sister Sue, you may want to ensure that you are seated before you view the following!

Since I do not have the time to explain the inner workings of calculus and the like, I am going to assume a solid background in algebra and/or basic mathematics (this should end well ).

Step 1. Using spherical coordinates, we establish a 3 dimensional basis for integration about three different axes, denoted by theta, phi and r. The elements of three-space hold true in this coordinate system, so the triple integral will result in a value that represents a three-dimensional "volume". The limits of integration correspond to half of a sphere (a "bowl" to you laymen). The formula is trivial, the trigonometric function appearing from the switch of coordinate systems.

Step 2. Carried out the first step of integration. The constant of integration is dropped, since this is a Godly sphere and there is no overlapping area. The trigonometric function is treated as a constant, as its variable does not correspond with the variable of integration.

Step 3. Continue integration, this time using accepted values for the cosine function. After this step we are have completed two dimensions of integration. In a cartesian sense, we have established a cross-sectional area, that the third integration will use to describe a volume.

Step 4. The final step of integration, substituting the variables of integration into the new function, giving us a formula for the volume of half of a sphere.

Step 5. Finalizing the formula, removing any extraneous variables.

Step 6. Trivial substitutions, verifying, as we knew it would, the Bible's value of 3 for pi. Try it yourself and see, if you dare!

Praise JESUS, this has exhausted a great deal of brain power. But I know I will be scoffed at, after all of this work, because, as I was told earlier, proof means nothing to those who would believe whatever the world believes... I believe I will retire from my office for the evening, and take a walk through Landover's Olive Garden!

[Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.]

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3.57 is embarrassingly wrong -- how did you ever come to such a conclusion?!

[Kazoo]

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I regret to inform you that your answer is wrong.

I have always been amazed at how someone could fail an "open book" test. But then again there is a parable to be learned here. The Lord has given us our life and that is an open book test as well, only in this case the book is the Bible (KJV1611). We can read it and heed its wisdom, or ignore it at our peril.

I am also amazed at how youngsters show up here rejecting the Bible (KJV1611) on the basis of their so-called "science", when they do not even understand it. Religion has been banned from the sickular schools, but so is a basic education it seems. This places an additional burden here at Landover as it seems we have to teach spelling, grammar, history, science, and mathematics along with the Holy Word of Jesus.

It's time for you to tithe son, hit that Pay-Pal button now to continue your education and the salvation of your soul.

Ooh, that made me laugh. Mind informing me how, exactly, I am wrong in stating that Pi to the second decimal place is 3.57?

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

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3.57. Please do not tell me that you intend to round the number or something to a similar extent. I do not believe that I could take such a blow.

I regret to inform you that your answer is wrong.

I have always been amazed at how someone could fail an "open book" test. But then again there is a parable to be learned here. The Lord has given us our life and that is an open book test as well, only in this case the book is the Bible (KJV1611). We can read it and heed its wisdom, or ignore it at our peril.

I am also amazed at how youngsters show up here rejecting the Bible (KJV1611) on the basis of their so-called "science", when they do not even understand it. Religion has been banned from the sickular schools, but so is a basic education it seems. This places an additional burden here at Landover as it seems we have to teach spelling, grammar, history, science, and mathematics along with the Holy Word of Jesus.

It's time for you to tithe son, hit that Pay-Pal button now to continue your education and the salvation of your soul.

[Kazoo]

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It is often the mark of a genius (like Dr. Ville) that points out the obvious that no one else can see. In your case we will have to take this one step at a time.

What is 3.579545 accurate to two decimal places?

3.57. Please do not tell me that you intend to round the number or something to a similar extent. I do not believe that I could take such a blow.

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: Pi Calculated to 4.5 billion decimal places

Hey, if he posts the algorithm that he used to derive the number, I'll gladly take his claims into consideration.

It is often the mark of a genius (like Dr. Ville) that points out the obvious that no one else can see. In your case we will have to take this one step at a time.

What is 3.579545 accurate to two decimal places?

[Kazoo]

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Well it looks like we are finally getting somewhere with you. You finally admit, after wasting everyone's time with inches, feet, and cubits, that Pi is a ratio (and, as such, dimensionless). It's amazing considering that the Pastors here tried to point this out to you numerous times.

What you still fail to grasp and acknowledge is Dr. Ville's original work and contribution in the area of scientific notation. The Indiana Legislature tried to solve this problem in 1897 and failed.

Hey, if he posts the algorithm that he used to derive the number, I'll gladly take his claims into consideration.

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: Pi Calculated to 4.5 billion decimal places

To answer your questions in order: no, I do not recall ever stating such, and pi can be defined as either the sixteenth letter in the Greek alphabet, corresponding with the English letter p, or a transcendental number which is equal to the ratio of the circumference of a circle to the diameter, having a decimal form beginning 3.14159265..., and commonly approximated to .

Well it looks like we are finally getting somewhere with you. You finally admit, after wasting everyone's time with inches, feet, and cubits, that Pi is a ratio (and, as such, dimensionless). It's amazing considering that the Pastors here tried to point this out to you numerous times.

What you still fail to grasp and acknowledge is Dr. Ville's original work and contribution in the area of scientific notation. The Indiana Legislature tried to solve this problem in 1897 and failed.

[SUV]

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And so what if I travel around? Seeing the world is half the fun of life. Don't your missionaries travel around?

It's exactly as I expected, then - you are a "Fellow Traveller!!!"

COMMUNISS! Where did you come from, St. Odo of Clune? (If so - are the Sisters still raffling off outboard motors, and how much does it cost to buy a chance now?)