[Teenaged Shaun]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

Just because you have not been struck by lightening or hit by a bus does not mean that God does not exist. This logic is flawed and you know it. Just because you have not been attacked by a bear or a shark, does not mean that such an attack is impossible. And the likelihood or lack thereof of such tragic events in your life has nothing to do with wheather God does or does not exist. Psalm 19 is a great testimony to God's existence as is Romans 1:20.

I never claimed God doesn't exist because I haven't been hit by a bus or struck by lightning etc. I mean the opposite. I haven't been struck by lightning or hit by a bus BECAUSE he doesn't exist. I'm aware that these things can and do happen, however, if they do, it's because a shit-load of static electricity got stored up in clouds and needed to be released and I was in the way of them. Or, a clumsy bus driver was too busy thinking about the price of beans in Yugoslavia to realise I was crossing the road. Not because of god.

[Teenaged Shaun]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

Friend, the Bible exists unquestion and unchanged. Your 'science' books change more often than I change toilet paper rolls. The Holy Bible is His inerrant Word.
God has come to you, you just ignore Him like you ignore all the world around you. He has not killed you because He gives you the choice, Heaven or Hell. I think we all know what your choice is (and it is not Heaven).

You're acting as if it's a bad thing that science books change? The whole point of science is to find out new things and if these new things refute the old things, we chuck them out. It's clear that religion doesn't do that. There's irrefutable proof that the Earth is round, the sun is the centre of the solar system and the Earth is 4.5 billion years old. Yet the Bible is still lagging behind.

[Irinka the repentant jewess]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

The only reason I said "hypothetically" is that it's impossible to remove Earth's core. That doesn't mean that the physics isn't sound. Also, you're being very hypocritical. The whole concept of God is a hypothesis. You may refer to the Bible which is a two thousand year old book written by a few blokes that wanted to control the people.

Also another point. Why are you fighting God's battles? If this omnipotent, superior being that created the universe exists, why hasn't he come to me yet? And, why haven't I been struck by lightning or hit by a bus. It's because he doesn't exist.

Just because you have not been struck by lightening or hit by a bus does not mean that God does not exist. This logic is flawed and you know it. Just because you have not been attacked by a bear or a shark, does not mean that such an attack is impossible. And the likelihood or lack thereof of such tragic events in your life has nothing to do with wheather God does or does not exist. Psalm 19 is a great testimony to God's existence as is Romans 1:20.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

The only reason I said "hypothetically" is that it's impossible to remove Earth's core. That doesn't mean that the physics isn't sound. Also, you're being very hypocritical. The whole concept of God is a hypothesis. You may refer to the Bible which is a two thousand year old book written by a few blokes that wanted to control the people.

Also another point. Why are you fighting God's battles? If this omnipotent, superior being that created the universe exists, why hasn't he come to me yet? And, why haven't I been struck by lightning or hit by a bus. It's because he doesn't exist.

Friend, the Bible exists unquestion and unchanged. Your 'science' books change more often than I change toilet paper rolls. The Holy Bible is His inerrant Word.
God has come to you, you just ignore Him like you ignore all the world around you. He has not killed you because He gives you the choice, Heaven or Hell. I think we all know what your choice is (and it is not Heaven).

[Teenaged Shaun]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

See that key word I bolded in your comment? It means you have no idea and are just guessing. We use the KJV Bible and it is full of undeniable fact.
God does not tell us that hypothetically we will go to Hell. He tells us if we sin that we will. No if, and, or butt.

The only reason I said "hypothetically" is that it's impossible to remove Earth's core. That doesn't mean that the physics isn't sound. Also, you're being very hypocritical. The whole concept of God is a hypothesis. You may refer to the Bible which is a two thousand year old book written by a few blokes that wanted to control the people.

Also another point. Why are you fighting God's battles? If this omnipotent, superior being that created the universe exists, why hasn't he come to me yet? And, why haven't I been struck by lightning or hit by a bus. It's because he doesn't exist.

[Teenaged Shaun]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

Why would they be happy about someone condemning themselves to eternal torture?



Prove it.

And before you come back with the very predictable, "Oh, you prove Heaven and Hell are real, nyah nyah nyah", they don't need to. They have faith, which is belief without proof (or else it would be called knowledge).

1. They probably won't be. But, they can't realise that telling me over and over that I'm going to hell will make me dislike the religion more than if they just accepted that people believe different things

2. I'm seriously confused. Whose side are you on? No, I can't prove that I'm not going to hell. I also can't prove that a giant spaghetti monster lives in the sky and at the end of my life, based on my life decisions, I either get really tasty meatballs or really horrible meatballs. However, I wouldn't base my whole world view on the knowledge that no-one can disprove my spaghetti overlord.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

I'm familiar with the inverse square law. And I never said as you get closer, you'd become weightless, I said, hypothetically of course, if you were to clear out the molten iron and nickel, you'd be weightless in the middle as the gravity would be pulling on you in all directions with the same force.

See that key word I bolded in your comment? It means you have no idea and are just guessing. We use the KJV Bible and it is full of undeniable fact.
God does not tell us that hypothetically we will go to Hell. He tells us if we sin that we will. No if, and, or butt.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

See? Why can't you just accept that people are going to disagree with your views?...

Why would they be happy about someone condemning themselves to eternal torture?

...When I die, I'm not going to hell...

Prove it.

And before you come back with the very predictable, "Oh, you prove Heaven and Hell are real, nyah nyah nyah", they don't need to. They have faith, which is belief without proof (or else it would be called knowledge).

[Teenaged Shaun]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

Think for a moment, Shaun. If there were such a thing as gravity, getting any closer would have an massive effect. I seem to recall some scientist telling us at a comedy club that the force of gravity SQUARES as the distance decreases. Based on that and the fact that once at the center, gravity must be immeasurable as you cannot escape it from any direction (No up/down in the center) That it would have to collapse upon itself. Then the Earth above waould fall to fill in the void because GRAVITY was pulling it down.
Now you also claim that as you get close to the center, you would become weightless. Sorry Shaun, we did not just fall off the amish wagon. We are tried and True Baptists™ and you cannot pull the wool over our eyes.
Deuteronomy 22:11
You shall not wear a garment of different sorts, as of woolen and linen together.

I'm familiar with the inverse square law. And I never said as you get closer, you'd become weightless, I said, hypothetically of course, if you were to clear out the molten iron and nickel, you'd be weightless in the middle as the gravity would be pulling on you in all directions with the same force.

[Teenaged Shaun]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

I'm not the one who will condemn you, dear. You are.

Either you chat with Jesus, confess your sins, accept Him as your LORD and Savior, or you condemn yourself to damnation.

It's simple enough for even a teenager to understand this. Goodness, I have children who still take daily naps who know this.

See? Why can't you just accept that people are going to disagree with your views? When I die, I'm not going to hell. I'm not going to heaven either. My body is to be donated to medical science. My conciousness will be snuffed out by the lack of blood flow around my brain. My neurons will shut off. I'll be dead. Nothing more.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

...That's his back to the camera. Oh the humanity.

I must have taken my lower-back length ponytail off that day.

Just checked, it's back.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

Ok, I can chat. As long you don't condemn me to eternal damnation. Threatening an atheist with hell is like a child telling their parents that they're getting no presents from Santa.

I'm not the one who will condemn you, dear. You are.

Either you chat with Jesus, confess your sins, accept Him as your LORD and Savior, or you condemn yourself to damnation.

It's simple enough for even a teenager to understand this. Goodness, I have children who still take daily naps who know this.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

You realise that the Earth's crust is about 30km thick. Also, the effects of gravity are fairly constant throughout the crust and the upper mantle. If you hypothetically were to dig a hole without getting caved in or roasted by the magma, you'd feel a stronger gravitational pull. In the core however, Earth's mass is more or less equal in all directions, so if you were to remove all the molten iron and nickel, you could float around in the core like it was zero-G.

Think for a moment, Shaun. If there were such a thing as gravity, getting any closer would have an massive effect. I seem to recall some scientist telling us at a comedy club that the force of gravity SQUARES as the distance decreases. Based on that and the fact that once at the center, gravity must be immeasurable as you cannot escape it from any direction (No up/down in the center) That it would have to collapse upon itself. Then the Earth above waould fall to fill in the void because GRAVITY was pulling it down.
Now you also claim that as you get close to the center, you would become weightless. Sorry Shaun, we did not just fall off the amish wagon. We are tried and True Baptists(tm) and you cannot pull the wool over our eyes.
Deuteronomy 22:11
You shall not wear a garment of different sorts, as of woolen and linen together.

[Teenaged Shaun]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

There's help. You don't have to be alone.

Ok, I can chat. As long you don't condemn me to eternal damnation. Threatening an atheist with hell is like a child telling their parents that they're getting no presents from Santa.

[Teenaged Shaun]

Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

Not possible Shaun.
If that were true, as I dig a hole, slowly my body would compress. This would continue until I imploded. If 'gravity' were real, it would do the same thing to my house, why even the dirt below the house! A pencil at ground level would levitate in a skyscraper. You would not be able to flush a toilet in a tall apartment building. No, what you 'theorists' call 'gravity' is actually Intelligent Pulling.

You realise that the Earth's crust is about 30km thick. Also, the effects of gravity are fairly constant throughout the crust and the upper mantle. If you hypothetically were to dig a hole without getting caved in or roasted by the magma, you'd feel a stronger gravitational pull. In the core however, Earth's mass is more or less equal in all directions, so if you were to remove all the molten iron and nickel, you could float around in the core like it was zero-G.