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    Researchers find fossils of 10-million-year old ape


    Friday Aug 24 15:27 AEST


    Researchers working in Ethiopia have unearthed the fossils of a 10-million-year-old ape, a discovery they say suggests that humans and African great apes may have split much earlier than thought.
    The Ethiopian and Japanese team named the species Chororapithecus abyssinicus and said it represents the earliest recognised primate directly related to modern-day gorillas, chimpanzees and bonobos.
    "The human fossil record goes back six to seven million years, but we know nothing about how the human line actually emerged from apes," the researchers said in a statement that accompanied publication of their study in Nature magazine.
    The researchers found the fossils in steep, rough terrain about 170 km east of Addis Ababa.
    The team, which dug up one canine tooth and eight molars, determined the molars were from a great ape because they shared special characteristics with modern gorillas for eating fibrous food such as stems and leaves.
    They concluded Chororapithecus was either a primitive form of gorilla or an independent branch showing a similar adaptation at about the time when the gorilla line was emerging elsewhere.
    "If it's not a gorilla relative, then it's something very similar to what an early gorilla must have looked like", Gen Suwa of the University of Tokyo, one of the researchers, said.
    Peter Andrews, a palaeontologist at the British Natural History Museum and expert on human origins, called the discovery exciting because the fossil evidence from great apes, the closest living relatives to humans, is almost non-existent.
    But he said he was not certain enough about some of the characteristics of the new fossil ape's teeth to name a new species ancestral to gorillas-- as the researchers have done - that pushes back the timeline of the ape-human split.
    "It is stretching the evidence to base a timescale for the evolution of the great apes on this new fossil," Andrews said.
    Some scientists have also speculated that the direct line of ancestral ape that spawned gorillas, chimpanzees and humans came to Africa from Eurasia.
    But the researchers said their findings added to evidence that Africa was the place of origin of both humans and modern African apes and indicated that gorillas split off from a common ancestor with humans and chimpanzees long before the generally accepted time of 7 to 8 million years ago.
    "Chororapithecus indicates that a reconsideration of this assumption is needed," the researchers said.
    "In fact, if the orang line was present in Africa prior (to the) first migration of Miocene (some 23-25 million years ago) apes from Africa to Eurasia, then the human-orang split could have easily have been as old as 20 million years ago."




    One would think that, by now, these Evilutionists would have their filthy god hating lies exposed as the God hating garbage it is simply by the amount of times their story has been changed. How stupid do they think we are? While these science fictionists are changing their make believe story of Evilution, the Genesis account of Creation has never been altered in any respect,and remains as it was first written down, talking snake and all. That my friends is all the proof I need.
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    The devil, whose business is to pervert the truth, mimics the exact circumstance of the Divine Sacraments. He baptises his believers and promises forgiveness of sins...he celebrates the oblation of bread, and brings in the symbol of the resurrection. Let us therefore acknowledge the craftiness of the devil, who copied certain things of those that be divine."
    Tertullian (155-222 AD) from The Prescription Against Heretics' Ch XL

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    It's just more evidence of the validity of the Bible. In over 2,000 years the word of the Bible has stayed the same and has always stood up to the scrutiny of skeptics alike. Meanwhile this science mumbo-jumbo keeps changing its mind about what it believes every time some new chicken bones are found in the ground (this KFC bucket is also 12 million years old).
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      Originally posted by Wash O'Hanley View Post
      It's just more evidence of the validity of the Bible. In over 2,000 years the word of the Bible has stayed the same and has always stood up to the scrutiny of skeptics alike. Meanwhile this science mumbo-jumbo keeps changing its mind about what it believes every time some new chicken bones are found in the ground (this KFC bucket is also 12 million years old).
      How does that make it more valid? If anything, the Bible was written by Humans way back in a time period of ignorance, so that would make absolutely nothing in the Bible credible. I have read it, and it's filled with nothing but sexist, racist, and homophobic views shared with that point in time. The fact that we are now in the 21st Century and people still believe in that nonsense is astounding. But those that follow the Bible usually pick and choose out of it anyways, so what does it matter.

      Anyways, this article is a great example of the beauty of Science. Where as the Bible is stuck as a fairy tale in that point in time, Science is constantly continuing on to the truth. And that's why you creationist's bash it so much, because you fear an alternative to your "God" that actually has evidence to back up. You can reject the evidence, as many of you already do, but in the end the proof still stands. Creationism can't even touch Evolution when it comes to actually evidence.
      With or without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion.

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        Friend, you have clearly given anger a real chance in your life. Why not give Jesus the same chance?

        sKin: the Bible was written by Humans way back in a time period of ignorance
        The Bible was written by God Himself, and every word in it is true. Since God knows everything, I don't understand how you can call that ignorance.

        You don't have to take my word for it, though. Here is what God's Word says:

        2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness

        I trust that you aren't foolish enough to accuse God of lying.

        sKin: I have read it, and it's filled with nothing but sexist, racist, and homophobic views shared with that point in time.
        Friend, I would like to invite you to read this sermon of mine here: Follow the Word of God, not your conscience. I agree that to the unsaved mind, women seem to be as capable as men, there doesn't seem to be any important differences between races, and homosexuality seems like nothing to fear. However, those ideas are dead wrong, and the Bible explains why.

        sKin: But those that follow the Bible usually pick and choose out of it anyways, so what does it matter.
        Friend, I would be in your debt if you could point out where I do not follow scripture.

        sKin: Where as the Bible is stuck as a fairy tale in that point in time, Science is constantly continuing on to the truth.
        You've got that backwards, friend. The Bible is perfect and doesn't need to be changed. Science books are always changing because the scientists keep getting caught in their lies.

        Pastor Billy-Reuben
        Upon request I will cite scripture for all these facts in God's Holy Word.

        ✝ This is a Christian community and we worship GOD of the Holy bible, the only Living GOD. We worship Jesus Christ, Son of GOD and Savior. Anything else is absurd. ✝
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          Originally posted by Pastor Billy-Reuben View Post
          Friend, you have clearly given anger a real chance in your life. Why not give Jesus the same chance?
          What is your point? I am not angry, I'm just passionate about what I believe in. And when I see people twist around logic to fit with some "god" that hasn't been proven, I'm going to say what I have to say with passion in my words. But you can interpret that as anger, it's up to you. And by the way, I was raised a Christian. I was a Christian 15 years of my life before I grew up and actually looked at the world around me. After doing research for years and actually question "God" and "Jesus" did I come up with my conclusion. They do not exist. And question, why not give Evolution or science a chance? Maybe that will answer your question.

          The Bible was written by God Himself, and every word in it is true.
          Yeah, says who? The Bible? Unfortunately for you, the Bible is nothing more than words on a page. That is not a reliable source.

          Since God knows everything, I don't understand how you can call that ignorance.
          I'm not calling your "god" ignorant, I'm calling the time period in which the Bible was first written ignorant. Why? Back then they believed the Earth was flat, and that the solar system revolved around the Earth. All of which have been proven wrong by science in our current day because we have the technology to do so. We don't need a "god", or any "god(s)" for that matter anymore.

          You don't have to take my word for it, though. Here is what God's Word says:
          Do not quote scripture. If I wanted to read scripture I would go open up my Bible. As I have said before, that is not evidence.

          I trust that you aren't foolish enough to accuse God of lying.
          I accuse man of lying for making up a "god".

          Friend, I would like to invite you to read this sermon of mine here: Follow the Word of God, not your conscience. I agree that to the unsaved mind, women seem to be as capable as men, there doesn't seem to be any important differences between races, and homosexuality seems like nothing to fear. However, those ideas are dead wrong, and the Bible explains why.
          No, those idea's are not dead wrong, they are essential to proper morality. The Bible twists this morality around, and it leads to nothing more than inequality. I do not share in your ideas of hate; whether it be sexist, racist, homophobic, whatever.

          Friend, I would be in your debt if you could point out where I do not follow scripture.
          It varies from person to person. If you wanted to kill somebody, you could find forgiveness in the Bible. If you wanted to hate somebody, you could find forgiveness in the Bible. However, these things can happen on the opposite end too. The bible is full of so many contradictions, you're allowed to do just about whatever you want (besides blaspheming the holy spirit of course).

          You've got that backwards, friend. The Bible is perfect and doesn't need to be changed. Science books are always changing because the scientists keep getting caught in their lies.
          No friend, you have it backwards. The Bible is far from perfect to the non-narrow minded. It is full of contradictions, stories full of hate, and most of all, illogical nonsense. And "lies" have nothing to do with why the Science Books are changing. As more and more EVIDENCE (something the Bible does not have) come in, Scientist's are free to re-hypothesize old theories, and come up with new ones in the process. It's freedom from oppression, and it's freedom to find the truth rather than having a fairy-tale jammed down your throat as a child.

          Thank you for your kindness pastor.
          With or without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion.

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            They sure are trying to be right aren't they!
            That is funny. Scientists are funny.

            And dangerous, don't trust them.
            God bless America, the Second Amendment and the Constitution. God bless the United States Marine Corps and all who fight for Jesus in third world cess pools. God bless the GOP and all they stand for, Truth, Honesty and the American people. God bless Landover Baptist Church and all True Christians™ the world over. Curses to our Muslim President, his failure is our Salvation.

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              With your permission, sKin, I would like to lift you up in prayer during services. I would love it if the Lord would reveal Himself to you, and help you in your unbelief.

              sKin: I was raised a Christian. I was a Christian 15 years of my life before I grew up and actually looked at the world around me.
              You say that you were Christian. Were you truly convicted of your sins by the Holy Spirit? Did you have a real relationship with Jesus Christ? Please give simple "yes" or "no" answers.

              sKin: I'm not calling your "god" ignorant, I'm calling the time period in which the Bible was first written ignorant. Why? Back then they believed the Earth was flat, and that the solar system revolved around the Earth.
              Do you think we are any less ignorant today? Today people believe that a monkey can turn into a human, or that catfish can give birth to a cat. People believe that the whole universe started from some random bang that nothing caused. People believe that the world is billions of years old, when the true magnitude is thousands. People believe that stars are large objects light-years away, when they are really small objects only a few miles overhead. People believe that diseases are caused by tiny, invisible objects that nobody can see. Scientists are stupid.

              sKin: Do not quote scripture.
              I'll respect your wishes for now. An unsaved person being exposed to the bright light of truth must be like a demon getting squirted in the eye with holy water.

              sKin: Thank you for your kindness pastor.
              Of course. I can't let you give up on Jesus and be sent to Hell without trying to get you saved. That would be like sneaking out of a burning building without waking any of the other residents.

              Pastor Billy-Reuben
              Upon request I will cite scripture for all these facts in God's Holy Word.

              ✝ This is a Christian community and we worship GOD of the Holy bible, the only Living GOD. We worship Jesus Christ, Son of GOD and Savior. Anything else is absurd. ✝
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                Originally posted by Pastor Billy-Reuben View Post
                With your permission, sKin, I would like to lift you up in prayer during services. I would love it if the Lord would reveal Himself to you, and help you in your unbelief.
                Please do. I am open for anything that can prove itself to me.

                You say that you were Christian. Were you truly convicted of your sins by the Holy Spirit? Did you have a real relationship with Jesus Christ? Please give simple "yes" or "no" answers.
                I stopped believing in god when I was 17 years old (I don't count anything below 3 because I can't really remember any of it). In my 15 years of being Christian I read and practiced the Bible, I went to church, and at times I thought i did feel a connection with "god" or "Jesus". I can't answer you yes or no on the "convicted of your sins" because I don't have much memory of that. But, as being faithful as I was, I'm safe to say yes.

                Do you think we are any less ignorant today?
                Oh definitely. Back then all we had was Religion. There was no science, or the Theory of Evolution, or anything for that matter.

                Today people believe that a monkey can turn into a human, or that catfish can give birth to a cat.
                That is a horrible misconception by a Creationist who knows very little of Evolution. For one, monkeys did not suddenly "turn into a human". Humans evolved from the SAME COMMON ANCESTOR as a monkey, which is an ENTIRELY different thing. For two, it takes MILLIONS of years for Evolution and Natural selection to take its course. So no once again, monkey's (or apes) did not suddenly turn into humans. And three, who's suggesting that Catfish give birth to cats? I've never heard an Evolution even suggest that because it doesn't fit in with the theory.

                People believe that the whole universe started from some random bang that nothing caused.
                You believe some random "god" willed himself into existence that nothing caused. What's so different?

                People believe that the world is billions of years old, when the true magnitude is thousands.
                Oh, no no no. There are MOUNDS of evidence suggesting the earth is BILLIONS of years old. The images taken by the Hubble Telescope years back took pictures of galaxies that would have taken MILLIONS of years for their light to reach our telescope. There is evidence the Universe is 45 billion light-years across and growing. So no, the Earth is not thousands of years old. Not even close. That wouldn't even allow for the human population as it is today.

                People believe that stars are large objects light-years away, when they are really small objects only a few miles overhead.
                What!? Who taught you that?

                People believe that diseases are caused by tiny, invisible objects that nobody can see. Scientists are stupid.
                There is proof that micro-organisms (germs, viruses, bacteria, etc.) do indeed cause diseases and sicknesses. They are not entirely invisible - just too small to see with the naked eye. Have you ever looked at something through a Microscope? A whole new world will be revealed right before your eyes.

                I'll respect your wishes for now. An unsaved person being exposed to the bright light of truth must be like a demon getting squirted in the eye with holy water.
                Huh? I've read the bible before and followed it. I know what it contains, and I don't need it quoted towards me.

                Of course. I can't let you give up on Jesus and be sent to Hell without trying to get you saved. That would be like sneaking out of a burning building without waking any of the other residents.
                Thank you for talking with me, and good luck with trying to change my mind. I'll gladly await your response.

                -A Seeker of Truth.
                With or without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion.

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                  sKin: In my 15 years of being Christian I read and practiced the Bible, I went to church, and at times I thought i did feel a connection with "god" or "Jesus".
                  If you are not sure whether or not you had a real relationship with Jesus Christ, then you didn't.

                  sKin: (science mumbo-jumbo snipped)
                  It sounds like you have fallen for the strong delusion we are warned about. Satan has shown you his power and signs and lying wonders, and you swallowed it hook, line, and sinker.

                  Friend, if you don't love the Truth, the Devil will give you all the "evidence" you need to make you believe the Bible is false.

                  I'm still praying for you, but it appears that you may not be a member of the elect. Rather, you might be a vessel of wrath, fitted to destruction, whose sole purpose in life is to serve as an example to Christians and to make known the riches of God's Glory.

                  Pastor Billy-Reuben
                  Upon request I will cite scripture for all these facts in God's Holy Word.

                  ✝ This is a Christian community and we worship GOD of the Holy bible, the only Living GOD. We worship Jesus Christ, Son of GOD and Savior. Anything else is absurd. ✝
                  Trump / Arpaio 2016 -- The Government We Deserve
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                    Originally posted by sKin View Post
                    Yeah, says who? The Bible? Unfortunately for you, the Bible is nothing more than words on a page. That is not a reliable source.
                    What are your precious scientific theories? Words on a plane?
                    O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



                    God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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                      Originally posted by Pastor Billy-Reuben View Post
                      sKin: In my 15 years of being Christian I read and practiced the Bible, I went to church, and at times I thought i did feel a connection with "god" or "Jesus".

                      "Jesus" didnt happen to be the name of your Mexican church janitor, did he? That 'connection' you felt is severely frowned upon by Jesus ouside of heterosexual wedlock.
                      The devil, whose business is to pervert the truth, mimics the exact circumstance of the Divine Sacraments. He baptises his believers and promises forgiveness of sins...he celebrates the oblation of bread, and brings in the symbol of the resurrection. Let us therefore acknowledge the craftiness of the devil, who copied certain things of those that be divine."
                      Tertullian (155-222 AD) from The Prescription Against Heretics' Ch XL

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                        First of all, you cannot go faster than light. Light just is and has no speed. Arriving before you left sounds like a Philosophical idea and Jesus hates heavy thinkers.
                        God bless America, the Second Amendment and the Constitution. God bless the United States Marine Corps and all who fight for Jesus in third world cess pools. God bless the GOP and all they stand for, Truth, Honesty and the American people. God bless Landover Baptist Church and all True Christians™ the world over. Curses to our Muslim President, his failure is our Salvation.

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