[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: ALL SCIENCE IS EVIL, AND FROM SATAN! (aka THE EARTH IS FLAT)

Well then how come viruses and bacteria evolve to medicine and anti biotics!!

you think bacteria and viruses has evolved to become medicine?
Uh.. ok, interesting theory that one, I must say.

I believe what she was talking about the microevolutionary changes that allow bacteria and viruses to become resistant to antibiotics.

We see bacteria become resistant to antibiotics all the time. That's just God's way of making sure his punishment for sinners and tests for non-sinners remain effective.

You will never, however, see a bacteria turn into or give birth to a dog or a monkey. But that is exactly the kind of nonsense that macroevolutionists believe in.

You evolutionists crack me up. There's another one of you running around on the forum claiming that cats evolved from catfish. Cat's don't even like to get wet!

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: ALL SCIENCE IS EVIL, AND FROM SATAN! (aka THE EARTH IS FLAT)

no.

That's exactly the answer I expected from the insane..
And got me even more concerned about your mental health.
Jesus can help you, you just need to accept Him into your heart!

But wouldn't the devil or a demon pose God and say every thing that would suggest he is God?

It can't.
There is one thing, that no demon will/can say.
Read 1 John 4:1-4

The atoms - it wasn't a FACT, it was a THEORY!!! big difference!

Such as the THEORY of evolution and the THEORY of the big bang?
You admit that they're only theories (ie belief), and not fact?
That makes me glad, friend.

Your a liar, and a witch!.... witch hunt......

Do you like making baseless accusations?
Or simply don't have anything else to say?

Well then how come viruses and bacteria evolve to medicine and anti biotics!!
And how do you explain that we share 98.6% of our D.N.A with chimpanzees, if (you claim we were never related)?

Have you ever seen this "DNA" yourself? No?
Then how do you know it exists?

And you think bacteria and viruses has evolved to become medicine?
Uh.. ok, interesting theory that one, I must say.

silly little girl...

Only one girl here: you.

I agree! religion DOES go against all reason and common sense!!

Can't read too well, can you?

Sorry, didn't think you were so easily offended! aaww! you poor, poor, thing!

You said that we are not ALOUD to ask for forgiveness, your dillusioned words, not mine. So explain why we are not aloud to ask for forgiveness?

There is no such thing as "aloud to ask for forgiveness".
It's spelled ALLOWED, and I've tried to tell you without making you appear like a complete retard.. But now, I'll just go out and say it:
LEARN TO SPELL.

And I did never say that you are not ALLOWED to ask for forgivness, show me the quote.
So either put up (a quote) or shut up.

So why are you reading and responding to my posts?

I'm trying to show you some compassion by trying to teach you something..
But you're so obviously recalcitrant that I'm starting to wonder that too..

any evidence?

Yes, it's in the Bible. Praise God!

proof?

Just look it up and you'll see.



BTW we've almost had it with your immature behaviour; we're not here to entertain you, nor to waste our time on a debate with recalcitrants (especially not since we've already proved you wrong in too)..
We have more important things to do, we must preach the gospel! Praise God!
Either write something worthwhile instead of simply wasting Jesus bandwidth, or you'll find yourself on Moderation.

[Bexz]

Re: ALL SCIENCE IS EVIL, AND FROM SATAN! (aka THE EARTH IS FLAT)

[QUOTE]Friend, are you insane or something?[QUOTE]

no.

Would depend on what was said.
God doesn't contradict His Holy Word and He would also say that He is Christ came in the flesh:
That's how I'd know if it's God or not.

But wouldn't the devil or a demon pose God and say every thing that would suggest he is God?

And we've been over this countless times:
It's been as "proven scientifically" just as the "fact" that atoms cannot be split..

The atoms - it wasn't a FACT, it was a THEORY!!! big difference!

As for your question: God created the world, and all in it.

Your a liar, and a witch!.... witch hunt......

And NOTHING has evolved, evolution is a lie, and has NEVER been observed in reality!

Well then how come viruses and bacteria evolve to medicine and anti biotics!!
And how do you explain that we share 98.6% of our D.N.A with chimpanzees, if (you claim we were never related)?

Yes,I admit the possibility that the earth is a bowl of green jello:

silly little girl...

That is, I suppose it's theoretically possible, but it goes against all reason and common sense.

I agree! religion DOES go against all reason and common sense!!

Sure did, kiddo. I'm real heartbroken here..

Sorry, didn't think you were so easily offended! aaww! you poor, poor, thing!

Pray tell, just what is "aloud to ask"?? You've said it twice now..
Try to make sense.

You said that we are not ALOUD to ask for forgiveness, your dillusioned words, not mine. So explain why we are not aloud to ask for forgiveness?

And we never said you aren't allown to ask for it, but that you should ask God for forgiveness instead..

Sorry, you seem to be making up words, "ALLOWN??" IT'S WITCH LANGUAGE!!

Because you see, contrary to your childish opinon, we don't care about what you think about us in the least.

So why are you reading and responding to my posts?

He once let two bears kill 42 children because they mocked a prophet for his baldness..

any evidence?

Michael Faraday was peresecuted by the scientific community for several years, simply for stating that magnetism and electricity was related.

proof?

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: ALL SCIENCE IS EVIL, AND FROM SATAN! (aka THE EARTH IS FLAT)

It could be said for religion also.

True, for some part:
Atleast in the meaning that science "proves" itself using science.. so why is it wrong to use the Bible to prove the Bible?
Or are you a hypocrite?

Thats a balatant lie, but lets go along with it... It could also be said with religion, religion needs to be proved scientifically before it can be stated a fact or even a theory, because currently it is a worthless hypothesis.

And just why do we need to be judged by your flawed standards and methods?
Scientists used to, as we've proven over and over in this thread, claimed the darnest things as truth;
They only thing science has proven over and over, is it's total unreliability, and that it can NEVER be regarded as truth with any certainty whatsoever.

Maybe you should get out more or at least learn abit more about what is going on in the world. Here, I have copied and pasted this from Wikipedia:

So some text anyone could have wrote..
And pictures of two indentical LOOKING sheep together is enough "proof" for you? Or even a picture of only this Dolly sheep?
It's only a picture of a sheep for God's sake, how could you ever know it's a "clone" from a picture?!?
You simply trust the scientists telling you it is; nothing but belief!

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: ALL SCIENCE IS EVIL, AND FROM SATAN! (aka THE EARTH IS FLAT)

Here, I have copied and pasted this from Wikipedia:

Friend, Wikipedia is famous for being the encyclopedia that anyone can edit. How do we know that you didn't put that there yourself?

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Bexz]

Re: ALL SCIENCE IS EVIL, AND FROM SATAN! (aka THE EARTH IS FLAT)

You cannot prove a lie with another lie.

It could be said for religion also.

For a 'scientific' fact to be proven as fact, it would have to be proven by Biblical teaching, as everything in the Bible hold true.

Thats a balatant lie, but lets go along with it... It could also be said with religion, religion needs to be proved scientifically before it can be stated a fact or even a theory, because currently it is a worthless hypothesis.

It's like the cloned sheep. I have seen a magician make an air-plane appear out of thin air through 'illusion'. Same with the sheep. "Oh look, we have some sheeps DNA.... FLASH! KABANG! *smoke and mirrors* Oh look now we have a clone of the sheep". Bullcrap! It's the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen. I put it to you that all science is either illusion, slight of hand, or it is sorcery, which the Bible clearly condemns.

Maybe you should get out more or at least learn abit more about what is going on in the world. Here, I have copied and pasted this from Wikipedia:

Dolly was created by a research team managed by Ian Wilmut at the Roslin Institute in Scotland. The goal of the research was the reliable reproduction of mammals genetically modified to produce therapeutic proteins in their milk. Wilmut’s team had already created two sheep clones from embryonic cells grown in culture called Megan and Morag; the work was published in “Nature” in 1996. Dolly was a Finn Dorset lamb, created from fully differentiated adult mammary cells using a technique called somatic cell nuclear transfer; her creation was described in a “Nature” publication in 1997. Dolly was the first mammalian clone produced from an adult somatic cell.

[revrggreen]

Re: ALL SCIENCE IS EVIL, AND FROM SATAN! (aka THE EARTH IS FLAT)

[quote=Bexz;90158][quote]


.... is a scientifically proven fact!!

Son, do you not find this phrase at all retarded? Scientifically proven? Proven by what? More sceince. You cannot prove a lie with another lie. For a 'scientific' fact to be proven as fact, it would have to be proven by Biblical teaching, as everything in the Bible hold true.

Though I do not see that happening. It's like the cloned sheep. I have seen a magician make an air-plane appear out of thin air through 'illusion'. Same with the sheep. "Oh look, we have some sheeps DNA.... FLASH! KABANG! *smoke and mirrors* Oh look now we have a clone of the sheep". Bullcrap! It's the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen. I put it to you that all science is either illusion, slight of hand, or it is sorcery, which the Bible clearly condemns.

Exodus teaches us "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live", it may as well say "Also burn all scientists too". Until that glorious day when we can all toast marshmallows while we watch these filthy heathen scientists burn, we will pray.

Rev RG Green.

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Flat Earth

I know I am a mere adled brained female, however I do remember a Sermon Pastor Al gave a few years ago.

In his glorious sermon he mentioned that the WORLD WAS FLAT until the Great Flood, then the Earth absorbed all the water like a giant sponge and fluffed up to what it is today.

Hope that clears up any confusion.

Helpful, Sister Thumper

Yes, that's what I've been telling this recalcitrant.. yet the harlot simply refuses to hear us;
Her heart is hardened to stone by satan, and I hope you will all join me in prayer for her poor soul.

[Daisy Mae Johnson]

Flat Earth

I know I am a mere adled brained female, however I do remember a Sermon Pastor Al gave a few years ago.

In his glorious sermon he mentioned that the WORLD WAS FLAT until the Great Flood, then the Earth absorbed all the water like a giant sponge and fluffed up to what it is today.

Hope that clears up any confusion.

Helpful, Sister Thumper

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: ALL SCIENCE IS EVIL, AND FROM SATAN! (aka THE EARTH IS FLAT)

No, they are doing it on a minute level, where the hell did you get the idea that the world blew up????!!!!

Cause that sounds like something a stupid scientist would get up too.

They're not blowing up the earth, man you truly are the most gullable person I ever spoke to - God told me that you are not in his holy book!!

Friend, are you insane or something?

So if a voice in your head claimed to be God and he told you to blow a particular (opposing) church, would you believe it's God or a demon and would you do it?

Would depend on what was said.
God doesn't contradict His Holy Word and He would also say that He is Christ came in the flesh:
That's how I'd know if it's God or not.

The singularity is a scientifically proven fact!! ha ha and you can't disprove it!! he he he!

How mature... A "nyah-nyah" reply scientist-style!

And we've been over this countless times:
It's been as "proven scientifically" just as the "fact" that atoms cannot be split..

Ok, so I ssumed too quick.. so then tell me, how do you think it all got here and how do you think all the beautifull complexities of the world evolved?

No way? And here we thought you were infallible..

As for your question: God created the world, and all in it.
And NOTHING has evolved, evolution is a lie, and has NEVER been observed in reality!

That is a massive contradiction!!! ha ha ha ha ha!!!

Really?
And just where is the contradiction?

So you admit that there is a possibility that God may not even exist?!

Yes, as much as I admit the possibility that the earth is a bowl of green jello:
That is, I suppose it's theoretically possible, but it goes against all reason and common sense.

So who made God then!!! duh!!!!!!!

No-one did. Please try to keep up.

Ha ha ha yep! lokks like it did!!

Sure did, kiddo. I'm real heartbroken here..

Well how are you meant to be forgiven if you are not aloud to ask for forgivness?????

Pray tell, just what is "aloud to ask"?? You've said it twice now..
Try to make sense.

And does the criminal who steals a purse need to ask forgiveness to be forgiven by the victim? No.
So you're talking nonsense.

And we never said you aren't allown to ask for it, but that you should ask God for forgiveness instead..
Because you see, contrary to your childish opinon, we don't care about what you think about us in the least.

God does however, as the LORD can get mighty riled when people mock His elect.
He once let two bears kill 42 children because they mocked a prophet for his baldness..
Take heed, fool. Lest a bear guts you and eat your intestines while you still live:
Could happen sooner than later, especially as Pastor Zeke owns a fine specimen.

Yeah they did admit they were wrong, if they didn't then they would still believe they are right to this very day! they admitted they were wrong and corrected their method! duh!!!!

Uhm.. No, they did not.
Many of them died in their silly imaginations.
And those who had to "admit" they were wrong didn't do so without a fight let me tell you;

Michael Faraday was peresecuted by the scientific community for several years, simply for stating that magnetism and electricity was related.
Which is now regarded as fact.

Go back to school, and learn to make some sense, fool!!!! ha ha!!

Your self-delusion is quite spectacular.

[Bexz]

Re: ALL SCIENCE IS EVIL, AND FROM SATAN! (aka THE EARTH IS FLAT)

[QUOTE]

Has the scientists and the islamofacists finally joined forces, planning to blow up the entire universe in one gigantic suicide attack?

No, they are doing it on a minute level, where the hell did you get the idea that the world blew up????!!!!

That'd be dire news..
But maybe you'll see that when they fail to even blow up the earth, that the "big bang" is a pile of nonsense.

They're not blowing up the earth, man you truly are the most gullable person I ever spoke to - God told me that you are not in his holy book!!

Are you retarded?
I'm saying that IT'S NOT GOD IF SOMETHING SAYS SUCH, BUT A DEMON.

So if a voice in your head claimed to be God and he told you to blow a particular (opposing) church, would you believe it's God or a demon and would you do it?

So you admit that they begin with the unsupported ASSUMPTION of a singularity, and THEN try to find evidence for it?

The singularity is a scientifically proven fact!! ha ha and you can't disprove it!! he he he!

No, you're being a liar.
Give me a quote where we say that everything, God included, must have been designed.

Ok, so I ssumed too quick.. so then tell me, how do you think it all got here and how do you think all the beautifull complexities of the world evolved?

The creation is designed by God, not God Himself

That is a massive contradiction!!! ha ha ha ha ha!!!

Even if there, theoretically, was no God:

So you admit that there is a possibility that God may not even exist?!

You would still need cause, I suggest you actually study this science you love so much..
Action without cause is probably, and rightly so, looked upon as the dumbest notion in existance.

So who made God then!!! duh!!!!!!!

Is this supposed to hurt my feelings or something?

Ha ha ha yep! lokks like it did!!

I'm not sure if you're "aloud to ask" either..

Well how are you meant to be forgiven if you are not aloud to ask for forgivness?????

Did they admit, or even considered, they were wrong back then?
YES or NO? And no dodging the question!

Yeah they did admit they were wrong, if they didn't then they would still believe they are right to this very day! they admitted they were wrong and corrected their method! duh!!!!

Right..
And I suppose you're going to say that when any of the current scientific theories are discaded too?

Go back to school, and learn to make some sense, fool!!!! ha ha!!

[Bexz]

Re: ALL SCIENCE IS EVIL, AND FROM SATAN! (aka THE EARTH IS FLAT)

Please, if you must tell lies, at least try to make them half-decent ones.

Okay, thanks for the tip.

Yes, you have the right to mock us, you just don't have the right to not be a Christian.

Everyone has the right to chose what religion they want to be in, or no religion at all. I have every right...

So the fact that they're wrong makes you think they're right?

Thats just silly, come on, brighten up! The fact that when a scientist is wrong, he can admit it and not lie about it (unlike religion), the fact that they don't lie makes people even more inclined to trust them (unlike religion!!)

Who?
So the Queen, George Bush, John Kerry, Robert Winston, Martin Luther King, Tony Blair, and 85% of the US population are all crazy, but you're sane? You are a very arrogant young lady.

truth is not based on how many people believe.(hypotheticall) If there was a hypothesis that stated that a tea pot is orbiting the sun, and the whole world believed this, it doesn't make it true.it's truth over authority, not authority over truth!

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: ALL SCIENCE IS EVIL, AND FROM SATAN! (aka THE EARTH IS FLAT)

That is what we will find out on the 27th November, they are doing a simulation.

Has the scientists and the islamofacists finally joined forces, planning to blow up the entire universe in one gigantic suicide attack?

That'd be dire news..
But maybe you'll see that when they fail to even blow up the earth, that the "big bang" is a pile of nonsense.

So you say God talks to you, yet if he talks to me then it's a demon! I'm sure God would love you calling him a demon! So how can anyone take your word on the fact that you say its God talking to you, when you say it could also be a demon, or insanity? Where do you draw the line?

Are you retarded?
I'm saying that IT'S NOT GOD IF SOMETHING SAYS SUCH, BUT A DEMON.

Yes that is true. We don't yet know how the singularity was formed, but these are massive calculations and they are being worked on.

So you admit that they begin with the unsupported ASSUMPTION of a singularity, and THEN try to find evidence for it?
And you call that "scientific"? Laughable.

I never said that I can accept the idea of an eternall universe, I said it using your logic and it still doesn't work for you. You have a very closed mind, anything new to come along you just can't accept it.

I can't accept the idea of an eternall God, because the baptist church told me not to, they said that there is a "designer" for EVERYTHING! therefore there must be a designer who made God, therefore God must have, at one time, not existed, then he was "made."
Your contradicting your own religion.

No, you're being a liar.
Give me a quote where we say that everything, God included, must have been designed.
The creation is designed by God, not God Himself, God is eternal, and we have NEVER claimed the opposite.

Why not? explain why there has to be a deep rooted spiritual meaning and cause to everything. Why can't something happen without a cause?

Even if there, theoretically, was no God:
You would still need cause, I suggest you actually study this science you love so much..
Action without cause is probably, and rightly so, looked upon as the dumbest notion in existance.

The big bang, and before that, a singularity.

Which came from nothing with nothing to cause it eh?

But your contradicting yourself you say everything is caused! any way, back to your quote, why could nothing have caused it, how do you know?

Friend, if something can be caused by nothing..
Then I suggest you drop all science whatsoever: because such goes against all science in existance, all common sense, and God's truth.

Well then you should thank me for getting jesus to bless you, I could always make him change his mind??!!

No, you cant.
And you curse yourself in the process, and as a compassionate Christian, that makes me sad.

Is it that time of the month for you or something, why are you crying, whats wrong? I had no idea that you are a pre teen, I'll be nicer in future! and remember, you must learn not to get emotional.

Is this supposed to hurt my feelings or something?

So I'm not aloud to ask you for forgiveness, but if I do then you will forgive me anyway! please forgive me, honestly (no joke)

I'm not sure if you're "aloud to ask" either..

Thats the beauty of science, even if they're wrong they will admit (which is more than what can be said for religion).

Did they admit, or even considered, they were wrong back then?
YES or NO? And no dodging the question!

No they didn't,

Right..
And I suppose you're going to say that when any of the current scientific theories are discaded too?

Ok keep saying that to yourself, darling.

contradiction!!!!! How can it be MY failure if nobody has taught me, it would be their failur!!!!! duh!

See above.

No he wasn't, you have to have FACT to base your theory on, he is English.

Check what brother Temperance showed you..

[Brother Temperance]

Re: ALL SCIENCE IS EVIL, AND FROM SATAN! (aka THE EARTH IS FLAT)

I never said that I hate God - I love him.

Please, if you must tell lies, at least try to make them half-decent ones.

I don't want permission for that. That has nothing to do with anything! SalvationSeeker gave me the right to mock him, he said I could.

Yes, you have the right to mock us, you just don't have the right to not be a Christian.

I used that quote for SalvationSeeker.

And? You still don't make a lick of sense. You said "you have been warned" - who were you warning?

No, but the fact that they admitted to an error gives me more reason to trust scientist, as I know that once they have been proved wrong, they will admit it and try to fix it, it is the only way to acquire answeres.

So the fact that they're wrong makes you think they're right?

prove it

We have! Repeatedly!

It's original properties(natural properties) yes came from plants.

What plant has the same properties as MDMA? It comes from scientists, admit it.

What about your member who shot the doctor, his assistant and his wife?

Who?

Forget about that - anyone who believes in an invisible creation, is called crazy! dillusionall!

So the Queen, George Bush, John Kerry, Robert Winston, Martin Luther King, Tony Blair, and 85% of the US population are all crazy, but you're sane? You are a very arrogant young lady.

[Bexz]

Re: ALL SCIENCE IS EVIL, AND FROM SATAN! (aka THE EARTH IS FLAT)

And if you hate God that much, why do you claim to tithe to him, liar?

I never said that I hate God - I love him.

You do not have our permission to not be a Godfearing True Christian™, so you have indeed broken the rules.

I don't want permission for that. That has nothing to do with anything! SalvationSeeker gave me the right to mock him, he said I could.

It's God. He can contradict Himself as much as He likes.

It's me. I can contradict myself as much as I want, we will never get truth if we do though.

The "for my sake" part there is crucial. You have been warned, we have been blessed.

I used that quote for SalvationSeeker.

Are you claiming that no-one using the scientific method has ever made an error or been proved wrong?

No, but the fact that they admitted to an error gives me more reason to trust scientist, as I know that once they have been proved wrong, they will admit it and try to fix it, it is the only way to acquire answeres.(unlike religion, if it's proved wrong, they deny it - by doing this you will never move forward and never learn, your stuck back in the cave times!!)

Scientists in the past have used the scientific method, and been wrong, just like today's scientists. End of story.

prove it

So it's nobody else's failure but your own? Then we're agreed.

No, it's the failure of the person who refuses to teach me, will you teach me?

You think MDMA grows on trees?

It's original properties(natural properties) yes came from plants.

Who exactly are you thinking of? Gandhi? Martin Luther King? Stalin? Mao? Pol Pot? Oh, wait, those last three were ATHEISTS.

What about your member who shot the doctor, his assistant and his wife ? Forget about that - anyone who believes in an invisible creation, is called crazy! dillusionall!

When Salvation Seeker told you to go shoot some LSD, he was a little too late, wasn't he?

No - I'm waiting on him there to get some.

Your reading comprehension skills are about as good as your chances of getting into Heaven.

Aww! thankyou, well I can sleep tonight then knowing that my reading skills are top notch and I'm going to heaven. Thanks for the compliment!!