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  • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

    Originally posted by a particularly ill-informed atheist View Post
    ..said that earth doesn't spin.
    It doesn't.

    I have quoted Scripture in support of that fact.

    Where's your Scripture?

    Why does that video link have stuff about evolution, murder, complexity of the big bang BUT NOTHING ABOUT THE EARTH?
    And the answer is obvious. Fools in general and atheists in particular simply have no concept of evidentiary standards. If they applied their deluded thinking to reality their already meagre world would shrink by several orders of magnitude. Let's take the law as an example, and I'll even include the fossil record. Now we know that there are people today. But there have not always been people.
    Even atheists accept this FACT and point to the fossils in support of what thay say. Obviously somewhere in between there was a first person and although the fossils are too limited a source to get any farther than that, indeed we know that the first person was male and that he did not have a mother. But just working with what the atheist agenda admits, we have people.

    And we know that there is a law against murder. I won't labour the point here but it must be one of the easiest laws to verify by simply going to your local library and asking the librarian for a copy of that law (which will be in section 345 of the reference area) or search the data base of the government website in your country and unless a culprit admits the crime a case goes to trial and in occidental systems there would be a jury.

    Would any thinking person want an atheist on that jury? After all, hearsay is the only stuff they will accept for humankind's existence in the first place! Inane remarks from Darwinists, follies from cosmologists who can't even agree on the age of their universe or distances to the stars, wild speculations from geologists. Have examined the evidence first hand? Of course not. A Lawrence Krauss has no expertise in geology and claims none, a Dawkins is a layperson regarding astrophysics and happily acknowledges that fact, and when it comes to string theory or quantum mechanics what a rag-bag presents itself for our examination and fails! Do they know anything about evolution? Of course not.

    Yet here in a thread about geographical experiments we have a self proclaimed expert who knows more about Quantum Theory than a physicist, more about Evolution than a biologist, more about Astronomy than the most decorated star-gazer and more about Everything than God with no more supporting evidence than what he has heard or read in some book. And any old book will do. Without God, what origin can he have for our existence at all? Magic?

    Next there is a youtube clip. In it we are informed that the devil will be supervising activities following the end of time. Let's have a look at what Jesus said on that subject:
    MATTHEW 25 [Jesus speaking]
    41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
    46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
    KJV .. context

    Satan's playground where he will be chief torturer? No. Satan's doom. Nothing he experiences there will be enjoyable. And this characterises everything about the atheist agenda. More informed about The Bible than a theologian? Well obviously not and there is no reason to accept any other of their unsubstantiated claims either.

    The feelings worshipped by atheists probably do exist for them as a sort of waking dream or something. But that is no basis for any pronouncement on subjects outside their own area of proficiency. But they don't know that. Recently I had my living room re-decorated and the Scottish gentleman who did the painting was very enthusiastic I must say and rather a proficient painter. I certainly could not have such a good job but when he got started on subjects such as Constitutional Law, Evolution, Astrology, Exobiology, Flood Geology—and I have capitalised these because they are the names of subjects—it is very unlikely that he had the expertise so evident in his brushwork. And being Scottish of course he was very forthcoming and I will say also happy to listen to what I said but obviously I'm not an expert either.

    Although he was a particularly vocal atheist, he had no certainty in his life. Christians do have certainty. The certainty of a Loving Creator who does not want to see us wind up in perdition and who has preserved for us the fullest information supported by past and future History about how to avoid that fate. He has also provided some information about the world we live in, but not complete information due to the complexity of the subject and our limited comprehension skills. But what He has told us is certainly reliable because He Made It. The Bible is not some 3rd hand hearsay mumbojumbo but a FIRST HAND account, not from an informed observer but from the Author of Life Himself. He explains what He has done in the past. He explains what He is doing now and He axplains what He is doing in the future. That is a pretty comprehensive source which every Christian accepts because it is FACT.

    The atheist doesn't even know that it's a source.

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    4. such as PHYSICA SUBTERRANEA, profundum subterraneorum genesin e principiis hucusque ignotis

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    • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

      I read some of the post and earth is totally flat.

      1)its simple,put your feet on a plank,can you go on the other side without falling to hell?

      2)does earth work like escalator?NO!!!!!!because you will fall into hell.god made the earth flat to be able to walk and live in a peaceful world.

      3)If people dont understand the earth is flat is because you did not read carefully the bible

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      • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

        There you have it. A phozo from a "very high place". Its from the ISS
        Attached Files

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        • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

          Originally posted by Nurichbin View Post
          There you have it. A phozo from a "very high place". Its from the ISS
          Is a "phozo" modern adolescent slang for "a photoshopped image"? I must surmise it is.

          I have here another phozo, it is of the fictional planet "Alderaan" from the ungodly Star Trek series designed to lead youngsters astray from Bible study.



          I find both phozos (I'm quite good at this new small talk) equally convincing.

          1 Timothy 4:1-2 tells us about this:

          Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

          Please, come to your senses, stop trying to rationalize your beliefs with the scientific conspiracy. Then and ONLY THEN shall JESUS accept you for ETERNITY. It seems irrational and foolish for the uneducated mind, but that is no surprise:

          1 Corinthians 1:18
          For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.



          Here's the Cross! Tell me: is it foolish? Is Jesus foolish? Is the Holy Spirit foolish?

          Yours in Christ,

          Elmer
          2 Kings 18:25 - Am I now come up without the LORD against this place to destroy it? The LORD said to me, Go up against this land, and destroy it.



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          • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

            well i wanted to upload some photos from the top of the everest but the filesize was too big ^^ but there you can also see it. but you rather belive in a book that has been translated hundrets of times, so you can´t be sure if it still says what i said at first? And do you really believe that every photo that has ever been taken from the top of the everest has been photoshopped? Do you really think there is some kind of giant conspiracy? and here is the link http://www.roguelifediary.com/wp-con...0-Everest3.jpg

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            • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

              Originally posted by Nurichbin View Post
              well i wanted to upload some photos from the top of the everest but the filesize was too big ^^ but there you can also see it. but you rather belive in a book that has been translated hundrets of times, so you can´t be sure if it still says what i said at first? And do you really believe that every photo that has ever been taken from the top of the everest has been photoshopped? Do you really think there is some kind of giant conspiracy? and here is the link http://www.roguelifediary.com/wp-con...0-Everest3.jpg
              Oh, dear... Ever heard of the fisheye lens. Here's another example of how it distorts reality:



              Behold! The world is curved!

              Seriously. This is the way SATAN distorts our perception! ALL that is dear and wonderful in the eyes of God is put through the fisheye lens of SATAN and made twisted and ugly! Yes, there IS a giant conspiracy during these days, during the END of TIMES.

              John 8:44 - Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

              It is the conspiracy of SATAN, and he lures willing victims everywhere! But you CAN say NO to him! No more phozos in desperate attempt to find secular evidence against GOD's WORD! They do not matter. The actual, living God matters!

              Revelation 3:10
              Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.


              Yours in Christ,

              Elmer
              2 Kings 18:25 - Am I now come up without the LORD against this place to destroy it? The LORD said to me, Go up against this land, and destroy it.



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              • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

                well lets put that aside. its of no use if you just say "its fake" everytime. Thats actually an astonishing phenomenon ;D. You don´t believe in gravity? how do you explain it then? just interested.

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                • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

                  You got there before me, Brother Elmer.

                  Fall Bay, Rhossili, on the Coast of South Wales



                  Fall Bay, Rhossili with a fisheye lens (the angle is slightly different and the tide is out, but the point is made):

                  2 Timothy 3:16

                  All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:


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                  • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

                    Originally posted by Nurichbin View Post
                    well lets put that aside. its of no use if you just say "its fake" everytime. Thats actually an astonishing phenomenon ;D. You don´t believe in gravity? how do you explain it then? just interested.
                    OK! I'm humoring you... I do not find this very beneficial as the WORD of GOD is what you should be studying!

                    Actually, "gravity" has never been proven. It is only a theory with the aim of confusing people and guiding them to the grasp of the Devil.

                    You might consider using our "search" function, as your questions about the apparent "gravity" have been given a thorough and unbiased assessment on these friendly Forums.

                    But, for your convenience, I've made them easy to find and
                    read to save you some minutes that I hope you'll spend in Bible study.

                    Job 28:25
                    To make the weight for the winds; and he weigheth the waters by measure.



                    Yours in Christ,

                    Elmer
                    2 Kings 18:25 - Am I now come up without the LORD against this place to destroy it? The LORD said to me, Go up against this land, and destroy it.



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                    • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

                      There you have the problem why i can´t understand you. You don´t believe in a theory that is quite reasonable but you believe everything of the bible even though you don´t have any evidence of its truth.

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                      • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

                        Originally posted by Nurichbin View Post
                        There you have the problem why i can´t understand you. You don´t believe in a theory that is quite reasonable but you believe everything of the bible even though you don´t have any evidence of its truth.
                        How wonderful. A question that has been posted countless times on this Forum! External proof for the BIBLE! Obviously, I do not need it, but I sincerely SO MUCH wish that you would also accept Jesus as your savior. To attain this, it is sometimes necessary to provide this proof.

                        But, as I mentioned, also this has been done before. That is why I have copied here an answer I gave previously for another unbeliever. I hope it helps you, too!

                        1. Eyewitness testimony. There are the words of those people who actually lived and witnessed the events during Biblical times. Furthermore, lots of archeological evidence supports the Bible. For instance, there are descriptions of cities that have been confirmed with archeology. See also Genesis 10:11.

                        2. There is the testimony of us True Christians™. Our lives have been changed and these wonderful, awesome changes are consistent with SCRIPTURE! See also Luke 1:47.

                        3. Look at the prophecies in the Bible. They HAVE BEEN FULFILLED!! Daniel Chapter 2 predicted the Roman empire and much more. For reference, see Daniel 2:34.

                        4. There is a unique and miraculously consistent nature of manuscripts of the Bible during a time when there was only illiteracy, unreliable greedy scribes and slow methods of communication. See also Psalms 12:6.

                        5. There is a prerequisite of God for secular logic and science. In science, the satanic concept of evilootion embraced by atheists, cat licks and false Christians gives absolutely no possibility of a mind that could be trusted at all. How could quantum fluctuations in the alleged spacetime produce a mind that could RELIABLY examine anything?! If evilootion were true, we would not be able to trust anything. The same for human, wordly logic. See also Ruth 2:12. Of course, the 'logic' of GOD IS BEYOND OUR COMPREHENSION.
                        See, there are indeed answers to your questions that build upon the great structure of TRUE FAITH™.

                        Join us and celebrate the magnificent nature of GOD!


                        Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.





                        Yours in Christ,

                        Elmer
                        2 Kings 18:25 - Am I now come up without the LORD against this place to destroy it? The LORD said to me, Go up against this land, and destroy it.



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                        • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

                          Originally posted by Nurichbin View Post
                          There you have the problem why i can´t understand you. You don´t believe in a theory that is quite reasonable but you believe everything of the bible even though you don´t have any evidence of its truth.
                          Reasonable? What could be more reasonable and believable than God making everything in the Universe and all the other religions being total lies?

                          YIC
                          1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

                          Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

                          Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

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                          • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

                            You know there are regions where not everyone believes in GOD in fact where i life no one does. so excuse me, but i don´t think an almighty beeing is reasonable. well whatever even though i don´t agree with you, i won´t try to ruin your religion for you . I think you might like this links

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                            • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

                              So let me ask just a few more questions. when you guys think the earth is flat, do you really believe, that somewhere, where the pacific is supposed to be, if you believe scientists, there is just a huge ledge and an eternal dropdown to hell? do you really believe that? how come we never see pictures of it? Or that the world just ends after the northpole? And if the world is flat, how do the tides occur? do you believe in a giant fish who breathes and makes tides? You guys say the bible is correct because of all the things that came true and where predicted by the bible? Well almost every scientific theory has been prooven and i would bring some examples of how the movement of planets is calculated, based on how gravity works but you would just say "lies, the planets arent that big and aren´t that far away, scientist just lie to us" You can´t just keep saying, that every scientific theorie is wrong and every proof is fake. oh and to qoute Bill Nye the science guys "There are trees older than you think the world is"
                              Yours Nurichbin

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                              • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

                                Originally posted by Nurichbin View Post
                                So let me ask just a few more questions. when you guys think the earth is flat, do you really believe, that somewhere, where the pacific is supposed to be, if you believe scientists
                                most of the time, secular science is wrong anyways, so no, i only believe creation scientists.


                                here is just a huge ledge and an eternal dropdown to hell?
                                there is something called 'divine pulling'. It's like when airplanes fly, when they reach the ends of the earth, divine pulling brings them back to the edge.

                                And if the world is flat, how do the tides occur?
                                I'm not sure I understand that. What does the earth's flatness have to do with the tides anyways?
                                -besides, the tides work they way they do because God made them that way.

                                do you believe in a giant fish who breathes and makes tides?
                                does it say in the Bible anything about a giant fish? -the answer will be the same. This goes for everything about 'do you believe...' if its in the Bible, we know its true, if it's not, then it either fake, or of no importance.



                                theory has been prooven
                                If it had been proven 100%, it would be a proof, not a theory.

                                "lies, the planets arent that big and aren´t that far away, scientist just lie to us"
                                You're finally understanding the truth! praise!

                                You can´t just keep saying, that every scientific theorie is wrong and every proof is fake
                                Not EVERY theory is wrong. For example, our knowledge that the earth is round. Because secular scientists don't believe in the bible they still say that it is a theory. If every theory was correct, why are there theories, even in the secular community, that contradict each other? E.G. steady state theory and big bang theory. Both false, but the scientific community doesnt understand that. And the numerous types of string theory. If you cant make up your mind about what is and isn't true, dont expect us to take you seriously.



                                Steph
                                Atheists! Make the right choice!
                                or
                                It should be obvious.
                                Come stand with us, with Christians, with Jesus, in eternal glory in heaven instead of agony in hell. You won't regret it!

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