[Nirvash]

Re: Proof of a Young Earth

How ridiculous! Saying that God didn't make something out of nothing. Carbon paper wasn't even invented until 1806! How can they possibly argue their case?

Well, as they say, sinners are a confederacy of dunces.

Carbon based and what does this have to do with Carbon paper?

[Brother V]

Re: Proof of a Young Earth

btw: Carbon-14 is radioactive, so if the organic molecules would contain carbon-14, we would all die of the effects of radiation.

So, if I read that correctly; you just said that no living thing contains carbon-14.

Except, "carbon dating" is done by comparing the amount of carbon-14 in (what used to be a living thing) and determining when it stopped taking that in.

So, you claim science=truth, but yet, you don't speak the truth, therefore, you don't speak science.

Thou speakest out of thine hind quarters.

YIC
V

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Proof of a Young Earth

The half-life of a certain element is always related to isotopes. In this case the carbon-14 isotope. All living beings are made out of organic molecules (molecules with carbon, hydrogen and some other elements like oxygen,...). The organic molecules don't contain carbon-14 isotopes.

btw: Carbon-14 is radioactive, so if the organic molecules would contain carbon-14, we would all die of the effects of radiation.

You date things with carbon paper? And you guys complain about us Christians believing in magic.

[Peter]

Re: Proof of a Young Earth

Well said Brother, Amen.

I've always been puzzled by this "carbon dating" nonsense. The monkey worshiping scientists claim there was billions and billions of pounds more carbon on earth 3.5 billion years ago. Now as I understand it, these same scientists claim that all humans, animals, bugs and plants are basically made out of carbon. So are they saying that there were more humans, animals, bugs and plants way back then, than there are now?

I think I've caught them in another lie.

The half-life of a certain element is always related to isotopes. In this case the carbon-14 isotope. All living beings are made out of organic molecules (molecules with carbon, hydrogen and some other elements like oxygen,...). The organic molecules don't contain carbon-14 isotopes.

btw: Carbon-14 is radioactive, so if the organic molecules would contain carbon-14, we would all die of the effects of radiation.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: Proof of a Young Earth

I never mentioned weight of living beings, so I don't know why you are calculating weight.

Pay attention, dummy.

You claimed my calculations were off, because I didn't include the false evolutionist assumption of common descent.

I showed how including your additional false assumption makes the proof for a young earth even stronger.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Andrew Barrick]

Re: Proof of a Young Earth

Now as I understand it, these same scientists claim that all humans, animals, bugs and plants are basically made out of carbon.

How ridiculous! Saying that God didn't make something out of nothing. Carbon paper wasn't even invented until 1806! How can they possibly argue their case?

Well, as they say, sinners are a confederacy of dunces.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Proof of a Young Earth

There is no god, so it's ridiculous to say that someone who doesn't exist is right. And Darwin isn't in hell, because hell doesn't exist.

Prove God doesn't exist Mr. Science.

[Peter]

Re: Proof of a Young Earth

How is it not proof? This God's explanation of how things happened. So was your hero Charles Darwin at creation so he knows better that God does? No! So God is right and Darwin is in Hell.

There is no god, so it's ridiculous to say that someone who doesn't exist is right. And Darwin isn't in hell, because hell doesn't exist.

That is a blatant lie, and I can prove it.

Most other living things all weigh a whole lot more than 95 picograms, so including your additional false assumption would make the total weight even more ridiculous.

The median weight for all living things is about 100 grams. To factor in your additional assumption, we would multiply 9.5e+26509984 by 100/9.5e-16 and we get 9.5e+26510002.

You are just digging your hole deeper and deeper.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

I never mentioned weight of living beings, so I don't know why you are calculating weight.

And you forgot that Jesus is going to send you into the deepest bowels of hell (out of His Manly Love) to show you what He thinks of hateful eurotrash perverts mocking Him with all this talk of worms taking over the world.

You ARE going to eternal hellfire, maggot-lover!

Jesus is dead, he's not going to do me anything. You don't scare me by saying that a dead guy will send me to an imaginary world.


Jesus said it THREE TIMES for you, Dutchboy! (I'm Belgian) Those satanic worms that are going to eat your flesh for all eternity will never die! You are going to be a SALTED WORM forever!

As I said before, hell doesn't exist so the "satanic worms of hell" don't exist either.


Praise God, I almost feel sorry for you.

I almost feel sorry for you that you believe this nonsense.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Proof of a Young Earth

And you forgot that the bible is no proof of anything.

And you forgot that Jesus is going to send you into the deepest bowels of hell (out of His Manly Love) to show you what He thinks of hateful eurotrash perverts mocking Him with all this talk of worms taking over the world.

You ARE going to eternal hellfire, maggot-lover!

Mark 9:42 And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.
9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
9:44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
9:45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
9:46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
9:48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
9:49 For every one shall be salted with fire, and every sacrifice shall be salted with salt.
9:50 Salt is good: but if the salt have lost his saltness, wherewith will ye season it? Have salt in yourselves, and have peace one with another.

Jesus said it THREE TIMES for you, Dutchboy! Those satanic worms that are going to eat your flesh for all eternity will never die! You are going to be a SALTED WORM forever!

Praise God, I almost feel sorry for you.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: Proof of a Young Earth

You forgot to mention that all living things on the planet evolved out of bacteria, so your calculation is incorrect.

That is a blatant lie, and I can prove it.

Most other living things all weigh a whole lot more than 95 picograms, so including your additional false assumption would make the total weight even more ridiculous.

The median weight for all living things is about 100 grams. To factor in your additional assumption, we would multiply 9.5e+26509984 by 100/9.5e-16 and we get 9.5e+26510002.

You are just digging your hole deeper and deeper.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Proof of a Young Earth

And you forgot that the bible is no proof of anything.

How is it not proof? This God's explanation of how things happened. So was your hero Charles Darwin at creation so he knows better that God does? No! So God is right and Darwin is in Hell.

[Peter]

Re: Proof of a Young Earth

And you forgot to cite the Biblical scripture that backs up your wild claim.

And you forgot that the bible is no proof of anything.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Proof of a Young Earth

You forgot to mention that all living things on the planet evolved out of bacteria, so your calculation is incorrect.

And you forgot to cite the Biblical scripture that backs up your wild claim.

[Peter]

Re: Proof of a Young Earth

Bacteria undergo meiosis every twenty minutes. This would mean that a given population of bacteria doubles every twenty minutes. Bacteria don't just double without bound, however. They die as well. Not counting new bacteria produced, the half-life of a population of bacteria is twenty minutes plus fifteen microseconds.

The growth rate of 100%/20 minutes minus the decay rate of 49.99997473%/20 minutes provides bacteria with an overall global growth rate of about 1.1762% annually.

There are roughly 5E+30, or 5 nonillian, bacteria on our planet today. If we work backwards from 5E+30 with a 1.1762% growth rate, compounded every twenty minutes, we find that the first bacterium appeared about 6000 years ago, just as Creation Science predicted.

Try this on your financial calculator:
FV=5E+30
PV=1
Int=1.1762/(3*24*365.25)%
compute NPER=157935000 twenty minute intervals

158045000 / (3*24*365.25) = 6009.77 years.

GLORY!

There is some rounding going on in there. I suspect the true number of bacteria on the planet is closer to 5.0004832E+30, which would mean the first bacteria appeared exactly 6010 years and three days ago, on the third day of creation, along with the other plants.

However, if we assume as the evolutionists do, that the first bacterium appeared 3.5 billion years ago, we wind up with a ridiculously large number of bacteria, approximately 1E+26510000, or 1E+26509970 times the number of bacteria we actually have.

A single bacterium weighs 95 picograms. The number of bacteria that evolution predicts would weigh 9.5E+26509984 kilograms, a clearly ridiculous value. But our whole planet, including all of the bacteria on it, only weighs about 6E+24 kilograms.

That's the wacky world of evolution for you!

Pastor Billy-Reuben

You forgot to mention that all living things on the planet evolved out of bacteria, so your calculation is incorrect.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Proof of a Young Earth

Brother, anyone (scientist) who says the earth is old doesn't know how to do math.

Scientists use "radio carbon dating" to determine how old things are.

Lets use one of their concepts "half-life" to see how stupid they are.

A half life is the decay rate of an element. Carbon-14 has a half life of 5730 years (or so). That means, 5730 years ago there was twice as much Carbon-14 as there is now.

Scientists claim that the earth is 3.5 billion years old. For a half life of 5730, that's 610,820 half lives for carbon-14.

If there's only one pound of carbon-14 in the world today, before 610,820 half lives, there would be:

1 half life 2 lbs
2 half lives 4; 8; 16; 32; 64; 126; 256; 512; (for ease) 1000; 2000; 4000; 8000; 16000; 32000; 64000; 126,000; 256,000; 512,000; (for ease) 1,000,000; 2,000,000; 4,000,000; 8,000,000; 16,000,000; 32,000,000; 64,000,000; 128,000,000; 256,000,000; 512,000,000...

That's a whole lot of carbon. Before 29 half-lives, saying there's only one pound of carbon-14 today; we get a number of 512 billion pounds of carbon 14. That's in only 166,170 years. We aren't anywhere near the million mark, let alone the billion year mark.

FYI, there's a whole lot more carbon-14 around now than a pound.

The numbers just don't add up.

There's no way the earth can be more than 6,010 years old.

It's just not possible.

Thank you for your valuable research.

YIC
V

Well said Brother, Amen.

I've always been puzzled by this "carbon dating" nonsense. The monkey worshiping scientists claim there was billions and billions of pounds more carbon on earth 3.5 billion years ago. Now as I understand it, these same scientists claim that all humans, animals, bugs and plants are basically made out of carbon. So are they saying that there were more humans, animals, bugs and plants way back then, than there are now?

I think I've caught them in another lie.