[SalvationSeeker]

Re: On Bacteria

Seems my point vent right over your head, so I'll try again:
PROVE that what one sees when looking through a microscope is actually bacterium.

You see something allright, nobody is arguing against that.
But prove that it's actually bacteria that you see.

I don't need to prove it isn't bacterium any more than I need to prove I'm not really a talking carrot:
Since you're the one who claims bacteria exists for a fact, you're the one who has to prove it. Show the "proof" that makes it a fact.
So stop making excuses and just do it.. if you can that is.
We both know you really can't and are simply going after what some "scientist" have told you.
You've made a pure leap of FAITH with no evidence to it's name.

[Sacha-DG]

Re: On Bacteria

Seems my point vent right over your head, so I'll try again:
PROVE that what one sees when looking through a microscope is actually bacterium.

You see something allright, nobody is arguing against that.
But prove that it's actually bacteria that you see.

I don't need to prove it isn't bacterium any more than I need to prove I'm not really a talking carrot:
Since you're the one who claims bacteria exists for a fact, you're the one who has to prove it. Show the "proof" that makes it a fact.
So stop making excuses and just do it.. if you can that is.
We both know you really can't and are simply going after what some "scientist" have told you.
You've made a pure leap of FAITH with no evidence to it's name.

Ok I see your point and I accept it is valid. Next time I have access to a microscope and a bacteria specimen I will observe and see for myself.
The last time I used a microscope, I was examining a Daphnia, or 'water flea', which I found interesting. I am not a scientist, and as such, I do not have a microscope or bacteria specimens. I will observe and compare the specimen under the microscope with a description of a bacteria and see if it matches up. The probability of this is high.
You see before I observed the daphnia myself, I had seen a magnified picture of it in a book, and sure enough, when I looked at it under the microscope, there it was, the same thing I saw in the book. Moving, breathing, reactant to stimulant. Just as the book described it. I have observed this with many other things from the same and/or other books. For example, we dissected a heart. If looked like it did in the book, and sure enough, when we cut it open, there were the ventricles, atria, bicuspid valves etc. Just as described.
I now know that these books have told me fact. This gives me reason to believe that the same will be true for bacteria.

When I open the Bible, I see riddles, metaphors and scripture about the Earth being flat. These same sources that I have found to be truthful, tell me that, and even describe experiments which have proven otherwise. I have been in an aeroplane, and observed the cuurvature of the Earth myself. I have sat on the beach, and watched a ship sail over the horizon. I have seen videos of people sailing around the world. I have seen pictures taken by astronauts and satellites of the Earth's spherical shape. I can trust these sources, because other things they have told me, and I have observed for myself to be true. None of this is true with the Bible.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: On Bacteria

When I open the Bible, I see riddles, metaphors and scripture about the Earth being flat. These same sources that I have found to be truthful, tell me that, and even describe experiments which have proven otherwise. I have been in an aeroplane, and observed the cuurvature of the Earth myself. I have sat on the beach, and watched a ship sail over the horizon. I have seen videos of people sailing around the world. I have seen pictures taken by astronauts and satellites of the Earth's spherical shape. I can trust these sources, because other things they have told me, and I have observed for myself to be true. None of this is true with the Bible.

You cannot understand the Bible because your father is satan.

John 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 8:45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

[Sacha-DG]

Re: On Bacteria

You cannot understand the Bible because your father is satan.

John 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 8:45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

I could be the son of a fish but that does not change what the Bible says.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: On Bacteria

I could be the son of a fish but that does not change what the Bible says.

No, the Bible never changes. But God can decide to send you a delusion, the better to befuddle you. Glory!

God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned.--2 Th.2:11-12

Your understanding of the Bible is the problem, not the Bible itself.

[Sacha-DG]

Re: On Bacteria

No, the Bible never changes. But God can decide to send you a delusion, the better to befuddle you. Glory!

God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned.--2 Th.2:11-12

Your understanding of the Bible is the problem, not the Bible itself.

I do not understand why God deceives us so. Is it not your belief that Satan also deceives us? Are you saying that God practices the same rites as Satan?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: On Bacteria

I do not understand why God deceives us so. Is it not your belief that Satan also deceives us? Are you saying that God practices the same rites as Satan?

I am not saying anything of the kind. I am saying that you cannot possibly hope to understand the Holy Word of God because you have not accepted Christ as your Personal Savior©. You have scales on your eyes.

Get on your knees and beg Him to take over your miserable life of sin. Renounce satan here and now, and REPENT of whatever perversions you currently wallow in.

Just for starters, pal.

[Sacha-DG]

Re: On Bacteria

I am not saying anything of the kind. I am saying that you cannot possibly hope to understand the Holy Word of God because you have not accepted Christ as your Personal Savior©. You have scales on your eyes.

Get on your knees and beg Him to take over your miserable life of sin. Renounce satan here and now, and REPENT of whatever perversions you currently wallow in.

Just for starters, pal.

Why would I beg God for anything if I can not even understand what he says?! For all I know, you could be deceiving me into worhipping Satan!

Would you vote for Huckabee if you didn't understand what his policies were?

[Sacha-DG]

Re: On Bacteria

As luck would have it, I will be examining bacterial cells under the microscope in college on friday as part of the mitosis topic. I'll let you know if I see anything.

[Born Again Bob]

Re: On Bacteria

Dear Friend,

As luck would have it, I will be examining bacterial cells under the microscope in college on friday as part of the mitosis topic. I'll let you know if I see anything.

Aaaaaand? I can't hold my breath much longer!

Yours in Him,
BAB

[Chrisy Albert (Quarantined)]

Re: On Bacteria

Ive heard some pretty off the wall things but im gonna go ahead and say WOW REALLY!!! Why in the hell would you make an argument about bacteria going to hell? And we dont have to prove that they are bacteria you can call em whatever the hell you want to but its pretty obvious that they exist and through extensive scientific study we know their functions and through basic high school studies we can see bacteria on the human skins and bacteria on all foreign objects (chairs doorknobs tables and so on)

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

Re: On Bacteria

Ive heard some pretty off the wall things but im gonna go ahead and say WOW REALLY!!! Why in the hell would you make an argument about bacteria going to hell? And we dont have to prove that they are bacteria you can call em whatever the hell you want to but its pretty obvious that they exist and through extensive scientific study we know their functions and through basic high school studies we can see bacteria on the human skins and bacteria on all foreign objects (chairs doorknobs tables and so on)

BAB is of course only talking about bacteria (read: really, really little creatures like spiders, ants, or snakes) that can be considered merely smaller identicals to the kinds described in the Bible. These exist, although some of them may be demons or demonic spawn, but this doesn't mean that secular science can be counted on to be reliable. Not by a long shot. There is so much evil in this world and bacteria is yet more proof of that. So please don't come here and spew your Biblical ignorance.

Pastor Ed

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: On Bacteria

Why in the hell would you make an argument about bacteria going to hell? And we dont have to prove that they are bacteria you can call em whatever the hell you want to but its pretty obvious that they exist and through extensive scientific study we know their functions and through basic high school studies we can see bacteria on the human skins and bacteria on all foreign objects (chairs doorknobs tables and so on)

Of course they exist. How else could they go to Hell?

Has your "scientific study" determined whether or not they have souls, like humans do?