CHRISTIAN EVOLUTION - A THIRD THEORY

[Born Again Bob]

Re: CHRISTIAN EVOLUTION - A THIRD THEORY

So therefore, since we exist (and we do, cogito ergo sum), we must infer that there was a start, an uncaused cause. Is that not the BASIS of a proof to the atheist that there LOGICALLY was a God? A deity outside of the causal chain?

Dear Friend,

Not even the feeblest minds among the atheists would be gulled in by this wheezy old gag. Your argument boils down to:

P1. Things exist.
P2. Every thing has a cause.
C1. Therefore, every thing that exists has a cause.
C2. And each of those causes has a cause.
P3. But that can't go on forever.
QED God.

To which any atheist worth the name would say:

P2 and P3 are contradictory. First, you assert that, yes, everything has a cause. And you have to say that to set up any mystery about why the Universe is here. If we're not in a search for causes, we could simply accept what is on its own brute terms. Then, after you start flowing backwards in the infinite regress of cause and effect, you change your mind and say that there has to be something that is not caused, i.e., that, no, not everything has a cause. And you have to say that, or you never escape from the investigation of natural phenomena. The problem for the profoundly unimpressed atheist is that you're trying to have it both ways.

If there has to be something that is not caused, a start to the whole sheebang, why not let it be the Universe which we all observe, rather than the God who we don't?

Logic is not the Christian's friend. The Bible is. Preach the Bible. The proof of God's existence is that the Bible says He exists. That proof cannot be undermined or talked away. It is self-sufficient and indisputable on its own terms.

Yours in Him,
bab

[Born Again Bob]

Re: CHRISTIAN EVOLUTION - A THIRD THEORY

Dear Friends,

There is no need to pull theories from a hat. (Or, in the Reverend's case, from your own well-oiled bungholes). KJV 1611 says everything that needs to be said about the origin, direction, purpose, and end of life on Earth. God made it as is, in six days. Period.

Oh, and as to "offering heathens a third way to redemption," consider what Jesus Christ has to say about exactly how many ways are open to heaven:

John 14:6
I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Matthew 7:13
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat

He's talking about you, RUBES!


Yours in Him,
bab <--- God's lil' Ken doll!

[Newton]

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I'm with the Reverend.

The Bible and science are two intertwinable entities. It depends on your interepretation. It does NOT depend on alterating the Word.

[Unfalsifiable]

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Although your idea is whacky, let me make one thing clear about "evolution" as we so loosely call it.

Everything is caused, the infinite chain of events of time have lead to every action preform right at this very second. You may think you are free but God, almighty and all knowing already knows what you will do, and what has made you do it.

The big bang, therefore, if it did happen, which seems frankly likely, it makes sense that it was caused. Why does anyone suggest that it was the start of anything? The big bang under God would be caused.

Now, ignoring God in this explanation above, we lose no plausibility to the atheist. We are caused (every action has a reaction). The big bang is an action, the big bang was caused.

But, you ask, what happened at the start? Surely the idea of infinite cause and event seems silly, nothing can come from nothing! That is scientific fact.

So therefore, since we exist (and we do, cogito ergo sum), we must infer that there was a start, an uncaused cause. Is that not the BASIS of a proof to the atheist that there LOGICALLY was a God? A deity outside of the causal chain?

[revrggreen]

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Dear Friend,Why do I suspect you type that wearing only a bow tie and a Groucho Marx disguise?

Son, you sound like a homer. Do you imagine men naked wearing a Groucho Marx mask often? Perhaps you dream about it all the time?
I do hope you're not a skirt-wearing bead counting Alter-boy buggering Mary-worshipper with a perverted queer statement like that.

I am offering a theory here which proves not only is the Bible 9000% true, but also considers the far-out theories of Evolution in a Christian context. I am offering heathens a THIRD CHOICE, and a chance of redemption.

-Rev RG Green

[Born Again Bob]

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Dear Friend,

Why do I suspect you type that wearing only a bow tie and a Groucho Marx disguise?

You trouble me.

Yours in Him,
bab

[revrggreen]

Friends,

Many people foolishly believe you only have 2 choices. You either HAVE to believe in 'Creation science' OR 'The Theory of Evolution' - as you cannot believe in both. Well, friends I am here to tell you that is a LIE!

People who tell you Evolution disproves the Bible are talking absolute nonsense, and are either Scientists, Wiccans, athiests or similar heathen trash. It is all part of a Satanic agenda to damage Christianity, and it has been working. They have been trying to force this garbage down our throats for years. Saying you have to believe either one OR the other. It is that kind of trash which has been costing us so many Church members, who are blinded by the 'proofs of evolution'. It is the Devil's greatest scam!

They tell us 'Hey guys, we have PROOF that 'Evolution' actually happened, therefore the 'Creation' cannot be true'.... GARBAGE! The reason there is 'so-called-proof' of Evolution is because BOTH may be true!

While this is NOT what I believe, I decided to give people a THIRD CHOICE -

My 'third theory', which combines 'Creation science' and 'Evolution beliefs', and which I call 'Christian Evolution' or 'Creation Evolution', may help people who want to believe in God - but are confused by proofs of evolution.

Holding all the Bible to be true, and adding Evolutionary theory, I was able to mesh both together very easily.

1. The Big Bang Theory
Well of course there was a 'big bang'. God created the Earth and the Universe out of nothing. It was his greatest 'magic trick'. I imagine as well as a 'big bang' there was also a huge puff of smoke, followed by miraculous applause by 4 million impressed angels. Ask any athiest what created the 'big bang', or what was there before it, and they won't have the answer. GOD CREATED THE BIG BANG, THAT IS THE ANSWER THEY ARE TOO BLIND TO SEE!

2. Ape evolves into humanoid
There is NO WAY man evolved from monkeys, as God created Adam and Eve as perfect human beings. This we know to be true, as the Bible tells us this. But the fact that there is proof that some apes evolved may explain where negros and Mexicans came from. Possibly God allowed this 'evolution' to happen, as he wanted to give man a few 'slave helpers' (Politically correct phrase). I doubt this would have been even covered in the Bible, as Mexicans and darkies aren't really that important to God's plan.

Though another 'theory' of where these 'evolved apes' came from can be explained by man raping monkeys in Africa, which, after 6,000 years of sex between man and human-ape-hybrid-brides, also explains the beginnings of negros and Mexicans. It also explains why they aren't as intelligent or "evolved" as the rest of us.

3.What about the dinosaurs? There is proof of they existed?
Well that one is rather obvious. There wasn't enough space on the Ark for dinosaurs, so all were killed in the flood.

More on this 'theory' to follow....