[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Did homosexuality kill off the dinosaurs?

I'm confused here, I thought True Christians didn't believe in evolution what so ever?

We most certainly do not believe in evolution. I just meant that when the Bible says "kind" it may mean something different from the evolutionary idea of "species."

I'm quite confused on the idea of inventing evolution as well, how does that work?

Some guy who wants an excuse to reject belief in God writes a book about how we evolved from monkeys, and life and the universe came from nothing. And then the idea catches on among other people who want to continue to live in sin and so they fabricate fossils like Piltdown Man and Nebraska Man. And then they take God out of schools and teach this theory to children as if it's fact and they get brainwashed into believing it. It's that simple really. I could invent a theory like that myself.

I see no mentioning of the 7 animals he took from clean species? Is it mentioned in another verse perhaps?

Ah, yes. That's a later verse.

Gen 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that [are] not clean by two, the male and his female.

On the fish matter, not that it is of high importance but o well, is it not more likely that they evolved (since evolution was already invented?) to be able to live in salt water?

I said evolution hadn't been invented. Anyway, I thought according to evolution theory freshwater fish evolved from saltwater ones.

How come they have the right answers to the questions the bible doesn't answer? But that's not the point, I'm just curious how you can find answers to whatever the Bible doesn't say, because I've read along the lines on this forum that His Word is the only True Word?

Well, not everything AiG says is true. In fact, if you visit their site, they have a whole list of arguments that they used to use that they now say shouldn't be used anymore. But their heart is in the right place. They exist because atheists, like yourself, keep asking us Christians questions that just aren't answered in the Bible, and so we have to have someone to provide possible answers for us which they may retract in the future. People go to AiG for answers, not for the truth that only the Bible can provide.

[Danny Scott]

Re: Did homosexuality kill off the dinosaurs?

You should still make an intro thread because we're here to talk about God.

Very well, I shall make one later.

But first, we like to emphasise that Noah took representatives from every kind on the ark. Because evolution hadn't been invented in Noah's day, he wouldn't have understood the modern concept of species, although he did apparently understand the difference between clean and unclean animals about 1,000 years before God gave the dietary laws to Moses.

I'm confused here, I thought True Christians didn't believe in evolution what so ever? I'm quite confused on the idea of inventing evolution as well, how does that work?

Gen 6:19-20 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every [sort] shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep [them] alive with thee; they shall be male and female. Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every [sort] shall come unto thee, to keep [them] alive.

The verses above make it clear Noah took only terrestrial and avian animals on the ark. He didn't take any fish. God miraculously preserved maritime life from the rapid decrease in salinity caused by the Flood and freshwater life from the rapid increase in salinity.

I see no mentioning of the 7 animals he took from clean species? Is it mentioned in another verse perhaps?

On the fish matter, not that it is of high importance but o well, is it not more likely that they evolved (since evolution was already invented?) to be able to live in salt water? I'm just curious because I accidently killed my salt-water fish by putting it in a regular aquarium.

There are many questions that the Bible doesn't clearly answer. We're not told how many kinds of animals there were, although there were probably more in Noah's day because the dinosaurs hadn't become extinct yet. We're not told how God stopped all the predators from killing all the other animals or what they ate or how the territorial animals managed managed to get along or how they were fed or how sanitation was maintained. For the questions the Bible doesn't answer, I usually go to Answers in Genesis. They have a lot of answers for things the Bible doesn't actually say. But the Genesis account of the Flood makes perfect sense if you believe in an all-powerful God. It only doesn't make sense if you remove God from the picture.

How come they have the right answers to the questions the bible doesn't answer? Anyway, thank you for the honest answer that you do simply not know, because I have seen a lot of people on this forum who seem too arrogant to ever admit such a thing. But that's not the point, I'm just curious how you can find answers to whatever the Bible doesn't say, because I've read along the lines on this forum that His Word is the only True Word?

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Did homosexuality kill off the dinosaurs?

I have seen the rules regarding the introduction forum and it seemed unfair for me to start a thread there because I am actually an atheist.

I am however very open to discussion about the matter because I am very eager to learn about the beliefs regarding True Christianity. The "simple" answer you give me doesn't quite satisfy my need of information. I can understand that you believe God did it, but how did he do it? How did he fit all those one million species on one boat? As you just told me, even more animals should have been on the arc than I originally thought. I'm unsure about the meaning of a "clean" animal, but there should have been an estimate of 2.000.000 - 7.000.000 animals on board, how did He fit them all on that boat?

You should still make an intro thread because we're here to talk about God.

But first, we like to emphasise that Noah took representatives from every kind on the ark. Because evolution hadn't been invented in Noah's day, he wouldn't have understood the modern concept of species, although he did apparently understand the difference between clean and unclean animals about 1,000 years before God gave the dietary laws to Moses.

Gen 6:19-20 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every [sort] shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep [them] alive with thee; they shall be male and female. Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every [sort] shall come unto thee, to keep [them] alive.

The verses above make it clear Noah took only terrestrial and avian animals on the ark. He didn't take any fish. God miraculously preserved maritime life from the rapid decrease in salinity caused by the Flood and freshwater life from the rapid increase in salinity.

There are many questions that the Bible doesn't clearly answer. We're not told how many kinds of animals there were, although there were probably more in Noah's day because the dinosaurs hadn't become extinct yet. We're not told how God stopped all the predators from killing all the other animals or what they ate or how the territorial animals managed managed to get along or how they were fed or how sanitation was maintained. For the questions the Bible doesn't answer, I usually go to Answers in Genesis. They have a lot of answers for things the Bible doesn't actually say. But the Genesis account of the Flood makes perfect sense if you believe in an all-powerful God. It only doesn't make sense if you remove God from the picture.

[Danny Scott]

Re: Did homosexuality kill off the dinosaurs?

Welcome to the forum, Danny. Please start a thread of your own in the introduction forum and tell us what church you go to, what your favorite Bible verse is and how you came to find Jesus.

Noah took seven of every clean animal (Gen 7:2) and two of every unclean. The simple answer to your questions (How did all the animals fit on the ark? Where did all the water go?) is that God did it. The Flood itself was a supernatural event, and God can do all things.

I have seen the rules regarding the introduction forum and it seemed unfair for me to start a thread there because I am actually an atheist.

I am however very open to discussion about the matter because I am very eager to learn about the beliefs regarding True Christianity. The "simple" answer you give me doesn't quite satisfy my need of information. I can understand that you believe God did it, but how did he do it? How did he fit all those one million species on one boat? As you just told me, even more animals should have been on the arc than I originally thought. I'm unsure about the meaning of a "clean" animal, but there should have been an estimate of 2.000.000 - 7.000.000 animals on board, how did He fit them all on that boat?

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Did homosexuality kill off the dinosaurs?

I am new on this forum and this subject actually fascinates me. I always believed the Arc Of Noah to be an interesting topic.

If 2 animals (male and female) of every species were put on a ship for 150 days, how were they fed? What about fish, were they on the boat too? How big was the boat? There are over one million species on this planet, it's kind of hard to fit them all on a ship, is it not?

The flood itself is kind of interesting too actually, I mean, where did the water go after 150 days? It just magically disappeared?

Topic related: I think it's highly unlikely dinosaurs died out because of homosexuality, primary instincts would have prevented that from happening.

Welcome to the forum, Danny. Please start a thread of your own in the introduction forum and tell us what church you go to, what your favorite Bible verse is and how you came to find Jesus.

Noah took seven of every clean animal (Gen 7:2) and two of every unclean. The simple answer to your questions (How did all the animals fit on the ark? Where did all the water go?) is that God did it. The Flood itself was a supernatural event, and God can do all things.

[Danny Scott]

Re: Did homosexuality kill off the dinosaurs?

I am new on this forum and this subject actually fascinates me. I always believed the Arc Of Noah to be an interesting topic.

If 2 animals (male and female) of every species were put on a ship for 150 days, how were they fed? What about fish, were they on the boat too? How big was the boat? There are over one million species on this planet, it's kind of hard to fit them all on a ship, is it not?

The flood itself is kind of interesting too actually, I mean, where did the water go after 150 days? It just magically disappeared?

Topic related: I think it's highly unlikely dinosaurs died out because of homosexuality, primary instincts would have prevented that from happening.

[Paragon of virtue]

Re: Did homosexuality kill off the dinosaurs?

So what you're saying is that dinosaurs and humans lived at the same time? It would be quite strange to write down their existence while humans didn't exist yet.

Oh, really...then explain this documentary you heathen!!

http://youtu.be/vfM58SN81XI

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: Did homosexuality kill off the dinosaurs?

So what you're saying is that dinosaurs and humans lived at the same time? It would be quite strange to write down their existence while humans didn't exist yet.

There is some debate here, some say that all of the dinosaurs dies because of the flood, others such as Answers in Genesis say that some of the dinosaurs were on the Ark.

"How Did Those Huge Dinosaurs Fit on the Ark? Although there are about 668 names of dinosaurs, there are perhaps only 55 different “kinds” of dinosaurs. Furthermore, not all dinosaurs were huge like the brachiosaurus, and even those dinosaurs on the Ark were probably “teenagers” or young adults."

But there is no doubt that dinosaurs lived side by side with the pre flood folk.

YIC

Jack

[I_Hate_God]

Re: Did homosexuality kill off the dinosaurs?

Obviously not, you big silly, nobody lives for 6000 years. But God was and He made sure it was all written down perfectly as it happened with no errors. And it was a shame and all that that the dinosaurs never made it past the flood, but once the world went bad they'd have been a pain to live with anyway.

So what you're saying is that dinosaurs and humans lived at the same time? It would be quite strange to write down their existence while humans didn't exist yet.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Did homosexuality kill off the dinosaurs?

So I take it that you do? You were there the day god created the earth and the day dinosaurs died?

Obviously not, you big silly, nobody lives for 6000 years. But God was and He made sure it was all written down perfectly as it happened with no errors. And it was a shame and all that that the dinosaurs never made it past the flood, but once the world went bad they'd have been a pain to live with anyway.

[I_Hate_God]

Re: Did homosexuality kill off the dinosaurs?

I see.
I take it you remember the day 'it happened'?

So I take it that you do? You were there the day god created the earth and the day dinosaurs died?

Dinosaurs have been gone for millions of years you know... It's quite unlikely they died out because they "started being gay". Evolution is a fact man, just face it. I'm not saying you can't be a Christian and that you can't have your beliefs, but fag dinosaurs? Get real for a second mate.

[Midge Murphy]

Re: Did homosexuality kill off the dinosaurs?

Even ducks. We had a pair of gay mallards come to our pond a few seasons ago...it was bonechilling what the boys and I witnessed that day. I don't know if ducks are becoming extinct due to their faggotry, but taking no chances, I sent them to hell with the shotgun.

I had a recipe for ducks that were blown to smithereens in such a fashion. It was called "Fupped Duck."

Midge Murphy's Fupped Duck

Duck patties:
1 duck that had the misfortune of being blown to Oz by a shotgun (meats only, no guts or buckshot) If not much is left, combine with another similarly ill-fated duck
6 scallions, finely chopped
2 tablespoons finely chopped fresh cilantro leaves
1/4 teaspoon Chinese five-spice powder
1 1/2 teaspoons salt
Freshly ground black pepper
Vegetable oil, for brushing on the grill rack
6 onion rolls, sliced lengthwise
1 cup shredded napa cabbage

Honey Plum Sauce:
1 cup pitted and chopped plums
1/4 cup honey
2 garlic cloves, minced
1 teaspoon minced fresh ginger
2 tablespoons rice wine vinegar
1 tablespoon hoisin sauce
1/2 teaspoon dried red pepper flakes
Salt
Freshly ground black pepper

Directions:
Prepare a medium-hot fire for both direct and indirect cooking in a charcoal grill with a cover, or preheat a gas grill to medium-high. If using charcoal, the coals should be placed so that they are under half of the rack, creating 2 zones: 1 hot and 1 mildly hot. If using a gas grill, follow manufacturer's instructions to create zones for both direct and indirect grilling. When the grill is hot, clean it with a wire brush. It does not need to be oiled at this time.

To make the honey plum sauce, combine the plums, honey, garlic, ginger, rice wine vinegar, hoisin sauce, and dried pepper flakes in a fireproof saucepan and place on the grill over medium-high heat. Bring to a boil and then place the saucepan to the side of the grill with indirect heat and simmer, covered, for 15 to 30 minutes, until the plums are completely cooked. Place the mixture in the bowl of a food processor or blender and puree until well combined. Season, to taste, with salt and pepper. Add more of any specific ingredient you feel necessary (e.g., honey, hoisin sauce).

To make the patties, remove any skins and bone shards, and place what you can with a little skin in the bowl of a food processor and pulse until well combined. Transfer the duck mixture to a large bowl. Add scallions, cilantro, five-spice powder, salt and pepper to the bowl. Handling the meat as little as possible to avoid compacting it, mix well. Divide the mixture into 6 equal portions and form the portions into patties to fit the onion rolls.

Brush the grill rack with vegetable oil. Place the patties on the rack, cover, and cook, turning once, just until done, about 3 minutes on each side. During the last few minutes of cooking, place the onion rolls, cut side down, on the outer edges of the rack to toast lightly.

To assemble the burgers, place a generous amount of the honey plum sauce on the cut side of the onion rolls. On the onion roll bottoms, place a patty and an equal amount of napa cabbage. Add the onion roll tops and serve.

When I see a duck that has been completely obliterated by a shotgun, my first reaction is "Yep, he is going to be fupped duck!" and I get the charcoal going.

[Paragon of virtue]

Re: Did homosexuality kill off the dinosaurs?

Young Jasmin has a good head on her shoulders and as long as her parents are smart enough to keep her out of secular universities and make sure she is as good a sammich maker as she is a writer and she should fetch a fine price for her father...provided that he marries her off in the next year or two before she is past her prime.

Also, it would be a very fitting revenge should ducks take our spot on top of the food chain after we besmirched their good heterosexual names:

Queer Duck noun. a person who is bizarre or unusual; someone who’s eccentric.

"He's such a queer duck with that orange and yellow mohawk and some fifteen piercings on his face."

I did get this definition from the unGodly Urban Dictionary, but nevertheless here it is.

Of course, I am only teasing as I share Jasmin's disbelief in EVIoLution and we also know that ducks do not have souls.

[Alterboy]

Re: Did homosexuality kill off the dinosaurs?

Good move, Brother Hammer. Good move.

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GLORY!

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Did homosexuality kill off the dinosaurs?

No, science help support my claims.

Ah, another follower of St. Darwin.