[Thomas Taylor]

Re: Why Do Atheists Believe Everything Came From Monkeys?

As always in this place, I find the unscientific conclusions drawn by the denizens here to be highly amusing. It is a well established fact that humanity descended from apes not monkeys.

For your edification the differences...

http://www.diffen.com/difference/Ape_vs_Monkey

As always in this place, I find the atheist fixation on the anal cavities of monkeys highly amusing. It is a well known fact that God created everything:

Are you trying to suggest that God is a monkey?

Genesis 1:26

And God said, Let vs make man in our Image, after our likenesse: and let them haue dominion ouer the fish of the sea, and ouer the foule of the aire, and ouer the cattell, and ouer all the earth, and ouer euery creeping thing that creepeth vpon the earth

I somehow think you will change your mind when you meet Him for Judgement you will change your mind. But by then it will be too late. Enjoy your eternal swim in the fiery lake God has waiting for you.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Why Do Atheists Believe Everything Came From Monkeys?

As always in this place, I find the unscientific conclusions drawn by the denizens here to be highly amusing. It is a well established fact that humanity descended from apes not monkeys.

For your edification the differences...

http://www.diffen.com/difference/Ape_vs_Monkey

I didn't click that link because I know that bananas are designed to fit the human hand. Now monkeys have smaller hands that humans, but also eat bananas. Jesus created monkeys before humans.

JOHN 1
1-[B]3][/B In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
14a And the Word was made flesh..
15 John bare witness of him† and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.

† cf Matthew 3, Mark 1 & Malachi 3

And sure enough, He designed smaller bananas for monkeys. According to evolutionists, the so-called "apes" emerged later than "monkeys" and yes we do know the difference and that is how we know they are wrong.

[John Scopes]

Re: Why Do Atheists Believe Everything Came From Monkeys?

As always in this place, I find the unscientific conclusions drawn by the denizens here to be highly amusing. It is a well established fact that humanity descended from apes not monkeys.

For your edification the differences...

http://www.diffen.com/difference/Ape_vs_Monkey

[Donovan A. Mordecai]

Re: Why Do Atheists Believe Everything Came From Monkeys?

I don't buy into the whole " we'd have been better off without the fall of adam" because 1- they'd have no knowledge 2 - there'd be no us and 3- it'd be rather dull and boring.

I don't view the fall of man as a mistake.

You see therein lies your problem, you don't take a Biblical perspective on things.

God does not make mistakes, there is nothing outside his purview

Psalm 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

Proverbs 16:4 The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

Matthew 15:13 But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.

Acts 13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.

God knows we will sin, because he made us weak, yet He gave us free will, and by it we follow the outcome he preordained. He want's us to make our own choices, so that we may come to Him in earnest subjugation.


Ephesians 2:2 - Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

Romans 13:2 - Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

Acts 2:38 - Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Luke 13:3 - I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.


So by not living according to His Will, you are proving Him right and mighty, as we True Christians™ already knew he was.

Simple

Please come to Jesus, and prove God correct, yet again.

God Bless
DAM

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Why Do Atheists Believe Everything Came From Monkeys?

I don't view the fall of man as a mistake.

You ARE mormon, aren't you!

Tell me, what's the "science" behind your magic underwear?

[bryce carmony]

Re: Why Do Atheists Believe Everything Came From Monkeys?

I don't buy into the whole " we'd have been better off without the fall of adam" because 1- they'd have no knowledge 2 - there'd be no us and 3- it'd be rather dull and boring.

I don't view the fall of man as a mistake.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Why Do Atheists Believe Everything Came From Monkeys?

Originally Posted by Sir Lucid
why does an all loving God create thousands of creatures just to destroy them? if evolution isn't to blame. is God ignorant of what creatures will survive or does He just hate some of His creations more than others?

God did not create anything "just" to destroy it. When Adam was created there was no such thing as death. Nothing died. There was no disease: Adam had no mitochondria, a] he needed none and b] he did not have a mother.

EVIDENCE

ROMANS 5
12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

Sin did not exist in the world before Adam listened to the woman, although in between her eating the prohibited fruit and corrupting Adam I shudder to think what she was doing but it would certainly have been sinful, unholy and debased

But God made a way for us to atone for such massive destruction of His Perfect World




MORE EVIDENCE

11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.

What does that mean?

Sin brought universal destruction, death, weeds, and obsession (demons) from disobedience, caused by listening to SATAN. That made us all enemies of God.

•



PROOF

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

The inevitable consequence of thinking one knew better than God was death, infinite torture, pain, disease and weeds CHOSEN BY EVE NOT BY GOD despite warnings about what would happen. And it did happen; but God's lovingkindness opened a doorway to justification and in His Great Mercy we are saved from wrath by Jesus' blood.

MORE PROOF

9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

If that perfect state had not existed there would have been no fall, there could be none since humanity (and all creation) would be putrid and vile from the outset. But it was perfect. The Bible tells me so. Therefore we know that a fall did happen. We became sinners. Obviously all human babies are born brim full with sin and always have been. Adam was never born at all, got infected by the woman God made for him before he produced any children. So we are all born disgusting, deserving only of everlasting torment.

NOT BECAUSE OF GOD.
BECAUSE OF SIN.

LOVE

8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. KJV

That is one Almighty reaching out in Love, from a Perfect Creator to wretched humanity through whose sin all of Creation is affected. All of it. There is no part of Creation you can think of that was not immediately ruined by Eve. In the light of this new information I am sure you can see that the evolutionist dogma is absolutely at odds with the Revealed Word of God, the God you dismiss at your peril.

[Joshua The Repentant]

Re: Why Do Atheists Believe Everything Came From Monkeys?

It varies. Either they say He is descended from a gorilla, maybe something else—like a jellyfish—Or they say He never existed at all, pointing to their version of history and using secularist standards of evidence.

Only another reason why they won't be Saved. They can't stick to one belief, they're all liars.

Lucid, how can you say God is ignorant? If God is the creator of everything we know, and He was an ignorant being, I don't think everything would have turned out as it has. Would you trust an ignorant doctor to operate on you? Calling God ignorant makes you ignorant.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Why Do Atheists Believe Everything Came From Monkeys?

why does an all loving god create thousands of creatures just to destroy them? if evolution isn't to blame. is god ignorant of what creatures will survive or does he just hate some of his creations more than others?

Good question. Have you considered asking God? We could answer for Him but don't you think that would be presumptuous? However, you might want to watch your insolent tone with Him. Considering He created everything, calling God 'ignorant' will not get you in His good graces.

[bryce carmony]

Re: Why Do Atheists Believe Everything Came From Monkeys?

You may well have an abstract nebulous thing conceptualised somewhere. We don't. God is more real that the reality we encounter day by day, more alive than we are. Greater than the universe, regardless of how you imagine the universe, because He CREATED the universe. He is the author of life. His reality is complete, ours meagre.

I Corinthians 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. KJV

But I'm sensing confusion here. Why are there single celled organisms? Because they have not evolved. Where is my LUCA? There is no such thing (obviously). Darwinists do not accept The Truth. If they did, we would not need medicine.

The Bible is clear, servitude unto Mammon is incompatible with serving God. Christians do not worship Mammon. Satan uses secularism and evolutionists to spread nonsense and just look around. Did you ever see such a mess?

The Bible explains:

Joshua 24:2-15 And Joshua said unto all the people, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Your fathers dwelt on the other side of the flood in old time, even Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor: and they served other gods. And I took your father Abraham from the other side of the flood, and led him throughout all the land of Canaan, and multiplied his seed, and gave him Isaac. And I gave unto Isaac Jacob and Esau: and I gave unto Esau mount Seir, to possess it; but Jacob and his children went down into Egypt. I sent Moses also and Aaron, and I plagued Egypt, according to that which I did among them: and afterward I brought you out. And I brought your fathers out of Egypt: and ye came unto the sea; and the Egyptians pursued after your fathers with chariots and horsemen unto the Red sea. And when they cried unto the LORD, he put darkness between you and the Egyptians, and brought the sea upon them, and covered them; and your eyes have seen what I have done in Egypt: and ye dwelt in the wilderness a long season. And I brought you into the land of the Amorites, which dwelt on the other side Jordan; and they fought with you: and I gave them into your hand, that ye might possess their land; and I destroyed them from before you. Then Balak the son of Zippor, king of Moab, arose and warred against Israel, and sent and called Balaam the son of Beor to curse you: But I would not hearken unto Balaam; therefore he blessed you still: so I delivered you out of his hand. And ye went over Jordan, and came unto Jericho: and the men of Jericho fought against you, the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Girgashites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; and I delivered them into your hand. And I sent the hornet before you, which drave them out from before you, even the two kings of the Amorites; but not with thy sword, nor with thy bow. And I have given you a land for which ye did not labour, and cities which ye built not, and ye dwell in them; of the vineyards and oliveyards which ye planted not do ye eat. Now therefore fear the LORD, and serve him in sincerity and in truth: and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye the LORD. And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD. KJV

There it is set out very plainly. How could those events have occurred if there were no God? That is the Darwinist position.

The Bible presents a choice. Christians choose life!

Thank You Jesus!

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why does an all loving god create thousands of creatures just to destroy them? if evolution isn't to blame. is god ignorant of what creatures will survive or does he just hate some of his creations more than others?

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Why Do Atheists Believe Everything Came From Monkeys?

I sure hope I'm not a monkey.

Does "evolutionists" believe that Jesus was once a monkey, too? Why do they hate Him?

It varies. Either they say He is descended from a gorilla, maybe something else—like a jellyfish—Or they say He never existed at all, pointing to their version of history and using secularist standards of evidence.

[Joshua The Repentant]

Re: Why Do Atheists Believe Everything Came From Monkeys?

I sure hope I'm not a monkey.

Does "evolutionists" believe that Jesus was once a monkey, too? Why do they hate Him?

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Why Do Atheists Believe Everything Came From Monkeys?

I fail to see the logic in the argument. if you believe in a LUCA ( last universal common ancestor ) why is there anything but that? if we evolved from single cell organisms why are single cell organisms still around?

and your criticism of following books written by dead men isn't very impactful when you consider the devotion you show to the bible. which is a book written by some dead guys.

lastly I fail to see how evolution has to be false to validate god's existence. god's image is fairly abstract a concept.

You may well have an abstract nebulous thing conceptualised somewhere. We don't. God is more real that the reality we encounter day by day, more alive than we are. Greater than the universe, regardless of how you imagine the universe, because He CREATED the universe. He is the author of life. His reality is complete, ours meagre.

I Corinthians 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. KJV

But I'm sensing confusion here. Why are there single celled organisms? Because they have not evolved. Where is my LUCA? There is no such thing (obviously). Darwinists do not accept The Truth. If they did, we would not need medicine.

The Bible is clear, servitude unto Mammon is incompatible with serving God. Christians do not worship Mammon. Satan uses secularism and evolutionists to spread nonsense and just look around. Did you ever see such a mess?

The Bible explains:

Joshua 24:2-15 And Joshua said unto all the people, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Your fathers dwelt on the other side of the flood in old time, even Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor: and they served other gods. And I took your father Abraham from the other side of the flood, and led him throughout all the land of Canaan, and multiplied his seed, and gave him Isaac. And I gave unto Isaac Jacob and Esau: and I gave unto Esau mount Seir, to possess it; but Jacob and his children went down into Egypt. I sent Moses also and Aaron, and I plagued Egypt, according to that which I did among them: and afterward I brought you out. And I brought your fathers out of Egypt: and ye came unto the sea; and the Egyptians pursued after your fathers with chariots and horsemen unto the Red sea. And when they cried unto the LORD, he put darkness between you and the Egyptians, and brought the sea upon them, and covered them; and your eyes have seen what I have done in Egypt: and ye dwelt in the wilderness a long season. And I brought you into the land of the Amorites, which dwelt on the other side Jordan; and they fought with you: and I gave them into your hand, that ye might possess their land; and I destroyed them from before you. Then Balak the son of Zippor, king of Moab, arose and warred against Israel, and sent and called Balaam the son of Beor to curse you: But I would not hearken unto Balaam; therefore he blessed you still: so I delivered you out of his hand. And ye went over Jordan, and came unto Jericho: and the men of Jericho fought against you, the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Girgashites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; and I delivered them into your hand. And I sent the hornet before you, which drave them out from before you, even the two kings of the Amorites; but not with thy sword, nor with thy bow. And I have given you a land for which ye did not labour, and cities which ye built not, and ye dwell in them; of the vineyards and oliveyards which ye planted not do ye eat. Now therefore fear the LORD, and serve him in sincerity and in truth: and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye the LORD. And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD. KJV

There it is set out very plainly. How could those events have occurred if there were no God? That is the Darwinist position.

The Bible presents a choice. Christians choose life!

Thank You Jesus!

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[bryce carmony]

Re: Why Do Atheists Believe Everything Came From Monkeys?

I fail to see the logic in the argument. if you believe in a LUCA ( last universal common ancestor ) why is there anything but that? if we evolved from single cell organisms why are single cell organisms still around?

and your criticism of following books written by dead men isn't very impactful when you consider the devotion you show to the bible. which is a book written by some dead guys.

lastly I fail to see how evolution has to be false to validate god's existence. god's image is fairly abstract a concept.

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

Re: Why Do Atheists Believe Everything Came From Monkeys?

The word theory in science means an explanation for an onserved set of data. It is overwhelmingly supported by evidence so much so it is ultimately a fact

Also humans didn't come from modern day monkeys. We share a common ancestor about 7 million years ago there was an early form of primate, that primate split off and over millio years of evolution modern monkeys and humans were formed. And your statement about everything coming from monkeys is simply not true. All the other animals you mentioned evolved separately. They all came from a common ancestor, but none of them evolved from anything you see today. And trees shared a common ancestor with everything too, but it was a form of bacteria

Oh really? Were you around then? Did you watch this "common ancestor" in the woods, monitor its behavior patterns, see it reproduce? I don't think so. Sounds like your so-called "ultimately" factual theory is just as unsupported as Pilt Down Man or the hodgepodge idea that birds used to be dinosaurs.

Pastor Ed