[Reba.d]

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I dont hate Jesus I have loved him since I was 5 and he is the only reason that I am here today, and I live in the middle of the bible belt in east TN.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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I dont hate Jesus I have loved him since I was 5 and he is the only reason that I am here today, and I live in the middle of the bible belt in east TN.

You're a liar. Jesus hates that.

[Zechariah Smyth]

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If you are in the Air Force you don't have an MOS: you have an AFSC.

Hmm...

[Reba.d]

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What am I lying about? And parents were army and I have beenin a Navy JROTC for 4 yrs so Im not so sure about AF terminology for everything yet. Im in the DEP untill I get a job and ship date.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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What am I lying about? And parents were army and I have beenin a Navy JROTC for 4 yrs so Im not so sure about AF terminology for everything yet. Im in the DEP untill I get a job and ship date.

You are lying about everything you've said. You are posting from Europistan right now, girl. JesOS does not lie!

[Reba.d]

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No Im not. Have you even heard of Church hill, TN?

[Reba.d]

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Well my settings were wrong which explains why times were all wrong on posts. Lol.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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No Im not. Have you even heard of Church hill, TN?

Well my settings were wrong which explains why times were all wrong on posts. Lol.

Sorry, but you are a liar. Time to come clean for Jesus.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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yes I did read it. I tell you I was skeptical and I also believed it was nonsense until around monday of this week.

And what happened on Monday? Did you hear someone speaking in a real language that he did not know? Or did you just decide that it kinda sorta sounded like words, and so it must be words?

I was slightly frightend but something had drawn me to the church and that I wouldn't stop till I knew why I felt such a desire and a calling to be there. I recently realized that it was God and that I was there to learn.

No, it is Satan, calling you with ridiculous jibberjabber.

You still haven't answered how it is "real" in your cult, but not in any of the other cults around the world.

Well my settings were wrong which explains why times were all wrong on posts. Lol.

Here's a news flash for you: Your settings do not affect how others see the time of your post, only you. The JesOS system is tracing your physical location.

There is no longer any such thing as "anonymity" on the Internet, dear.

[Reba.d]

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Why would I lie about where I am at? Anyways goodnight all I have a track meet to assist with for 7 hours tomorrow. So goodnight and God bless.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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And what happened on Monday? Did you hear someone speaking in a real language that he did not know? Or did you just decide that it kinda sorta sounded like words, and so it must be words?


No, it is Satan, calling you with ridiculous jibberjabber.

You still haven't answered how it is "real" in your cult, but not in any of the other cults around the world.

Gonna answer me, dear?

[Reba.d]

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well it set my location with the timezone i went with at registration. and it could be all the proxies i use due to past stalkers. And no I read my bible and prayed and read, and studied, etc. . . And all I know is what the bible says, and in Acts 19 it doesnt say anyting about it being understood. And it isn't a cult. And their are many out there calling your church a cult and I believe that it isnt, its a institution of belief. I dont call your church a cult just because I dont agree with some of what you all have to say. And its sad to say this but Rodimer so far you are the most reasonable and decent person I have came across on this site. Not really sad but well sad that you are still against me in a way and yet the one I can actually say at least knows their side of the argument, and isnt randomly posting things.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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And no I read my bible and prayed and read, and studied, etc. . . And all I know is what the bible says, and in Acts 19 it doesnt say anyting about it being understood.

How, pray tell, could they "prophesy" if nobody could understand them?

Answer: They couldn't.

And its sad to say this but Rodimer so far you are the most reasonable and decent person I have came across on this site. Not really sad but well sad that you are still against me in a way and yet the one I can actually say at least knows their side of the argument, and isnt randomly posting things.

The only thing I'm against is you going to Hell through some obsession with one of Satan's favorite tricks.

Jabbering isn't a "heavenly language", and there is no evidence in Acts 19 or anywhere else in the Bible that there was an unknown language being spoken. It would not be possible to "prophesy" if nobody could understand what was being said; therefore, the words must have been in a known language, just not the speaker's native language.

That's what makes it a miracle.

And that's not what is happening at your apostolic cult.

Here's a couple of other references for you:

http://www.whyilefttherevivalfellowship.com/tongues

(Includes a Journal of Abnormal Psychology article about a trial to "teach" tongues to test subjects; conclusion is that it is a learned behavior.)

Here's a nice little article with references to the history of ecstatic speech/tongues in a number of religions starting in ancient Greece:

http://www.spirithome.com/tongues1.html

I'll quote it for you.

Non-Christians speak in tongues, too.

The Oracle at Delphi, for instance, started in the 400s BC, when Greece was at its strongest. It continued into the Roman era as if it was a parody of its former self, so the members of the churches of Greece and Asia Minor would have been very familiar with how Delphi worked. It was a shrine of the Greek god Apollo. In response to someone's questions, a priestess would go into a frenzy and start babbling. An attendant priest would then 'translate' the babble into some glittering generalities that could in some way be understood as an answer. Some of the best-known features of Greek philosophy streamed out from the Oracle's early years (for instance, it bred the saying "Know Yourself"); the great Greek philosophers were very good at finding jewels in waste water. The cult of Dionysis used rhythmic music, whirling dances, alcohol and/or herbal drugs, and magic spells to send peoples' souls out of their body (Greek ek stasis ) and into the presence of whatever deity or sub-deity was involved; this too sometimes caused strange sounds.

African animists, too, have long had ecstatic speech in their religions. But, just as glossolalia among Jews marked one as a prophet, glossolalia caused most African animists to foist onto the speaker the role of religious leader or priest, a heavy spiritual and cultural responsibility to lay upon an unprepared person. Wherever they have happened in the past, glossolalia and other extraordinary 'spiritual' happenings have not been, and have not really been allowed to be, a thing 'of the people', which could be a part of the otherwise-normal life of otherwise-ordinary people.

Deep in the gnostic book-hoard at Nag Hammadi, archaeologists discovered what may be the earliest, and perhaps one of the strangest, written instances of glossolalia. (Gnosticism arose at the same time as Christianity, and Gnostics were skilled at melding Christian devotions and spirituality to the un-Christian Gnostic framework -- to use a modern term, they tried to 'co-opt' Christianity.) While modern theologians give the unusual contents at Nag Hammadi much more attention than they deserve, a prayer introduction in *The Gospel Of the Egyptians* is a true attention-grabber. It reads roughly (very roughly) like this :

Ié ieus éó ou éó óua! O Jesus, bond of Yah's righteousness, O Living Water, O Child of Child, O glorious Name! Really truly, O Eon that is, iiii éééé eeee oo uuuu óóóó aaaaa, really truly éi aaaa óó óó! O One That Is, Seer Of the Ages! Really truly, aee ééé iiii uuuuuu óóóóóóóó, You who are eternally eternal, really truly iéa aió, in the heart, You who Are, You are what You are, ei o ei eios ei!

Even the translatable words are very iffy and full of vowels and mixed languages. Like modern glossolalia, it's got a lot of almost-words, divine titles, and even 'really truly'. It's almost like a parody, it's so garbled, but it was serious in its intent. The ecstatic speech did not make the book's bizarre beliefs the slightest bit more true.

[Reba.d]

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Well I started to speak in toungues tonight, well was resistant and didnt let it come through too well but still. It is real and amazing and I finally feel right. This is what was missing. Praise the Lord!

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Well I started to speak in toungues tonight, well was resistant and didnt let it come through too well but still. It is real and amazing and I finally feel right. This is what was missing. Praise the Lord!

Don't be like Benny Hinn, the false Christan demon.