[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

Liberals may disagree with ethical standards, but the point is that without them society will disintegrate into chaos. Thus the way to save civilization is to adopt a strong morality. Christianity, by winning the culture wars, is the strongest. This is basic Peterson - I don't even need to get into the philosophies of Brand or Jones to explain it.

[handmaiden]

We can see easily which religion is best by studying the field of ethics. A professor at a Christian college studies, speaks and writes about ethics. He says Christianity needs a national committee or official body that rules on the ethics of various laws and societal practices. If we did this we would have a more ethical society. Here are some ethical rules he embraces:

1.) Men have superior positions in all relationships and professional standings over women.
2.) Women carry all pregnancies to birth.
3.) Homers do not marry or appear in public.
4.) All marriages adhere to the separation of the races as God intended.

Others can add to this list. The only requirement is the rules are not religious but uphold ethical standards.

We need good Protestant ethicists (christianpost.com)

Wow! What a namby-pamby. Homosexuals CAN appear in public because stoning them to death in secret is against God's Law. People NEED to see God's Will being obeyed by lawmakers and public servants. This will tighten up society's ethical standards real quick.

[Johny Joe Hold]

We can see easily which religion is best by studying the field of ethics. A professor at a Christian college studies, speaks and writes about ethics. He says Christianity needs a national committee or official body that rules on the ethics of various laws and societal practices. If we did this we would have a more ethical society. Here are some ethical rules he embraces:

1.) Men have superior positions in all relationships and professional standings over women.
2.) Women carry all pregnancies to birth.
3.) Homers do not marry or appear in public.
4.) All marriages adhere to the separation of the races as God intended.

Others can add to this list. The only requirement is the rules are not religious but uphold ethical standards.

We need good Protestant ethicists (christianpost.com)

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Which religion has the best proof?

but since the Jain Lady didn't I don't either.

Is that your new guiding light? Her user profile quotes Ecclesiastes chapter three. Here is the passage in context:

A time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
6 A time to get, and a time to lose;
A time to keep, and a time to cast away;
7 A time to rend, and a time to sew;
A time to keep silence, and a time to speak;

For you there is NO time for embracing, no progeny and therefore no future. For Ecclesiastes, and therefore for the Jain Lady, there IS a time for embracing. She didn't choose celibacy and since she didn't you don't either? Can you see the problem here?

[Romeo Rovagnati]

Re: Which religion has the best proof?

Great point. I'll also be generous and concede that Judaism has a great deal of proof. Jews worship gold and gold does indeed exist. I've seen it

I would also have added Judaism in the list, but since the Jain Lady didn't I don't either.

Anyway, Judaism also has some proof, which can be tracked by any Rabbi who claimed to be the Messiah (such as Sabbatai Zevi). The fact that none of them managed to be the Messiah only proves Christianity true.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Which religion has the best proof?

Not only false Churches but false prophets too. One in particular seems pretty much a spin off from the Roman heresy.

REVELATION 12:1-4

[Dennis Lukes]

Re: Which religion has the best proof?

Great point. I'll also be generous and concede that Judaism has a great deal of proof. Jews worship gold and gold does indeed exist. I've seen it

[WWJDnow]

Re: Which religion has the best proof?

Wow, I actually finally agree with Romeo. The Catholic church is, indeed, a proof that Christianity is correct. The Bible prophesied that false churches would arise, and the Catholic church is a perfect example.

For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. 2 Corinthians 11:13-15

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Which religion has the best proof?

What on earth is going on there? Is the pope pretending to transfer energy from his heart into the statue to make his customers think it's magic? Or is he trying to suck magic out from the statue into his own chest, so he'll be even more magic than [he thinks] he is already?

In either case, it's the veriest definition of idolatry even if they say, "O it's only a statue it's not an idol." The fact of magic infusions being considered real is what constitutes idolatry. Regardless of the magic energy, actually brain demons whatever else may be claimed, the mere existence of such a statue makes it an idol.

Idolatry is therefore very easy to prove. Since all idols celebrate demons, could idolatry be considered a religion in its own right?

[handmaiden]

Re: Which religion has the best proof?

Mrs. Harsha Shah, I've decided to fix your list by putting the religions you've listed in the correct order:. . .

2. Mormonism: The LSD Church identify itself as "Christian", but since you put them as a separate religion, I'll do too. It still has evidence because of the ones of Christianity and because Landover Baptists claim (and I believe them) that Jesus came in America and met the red tribes. However, the founder was a Fairy Tale author, therefore losing most of his credibility.

Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!


Don't speak for Landover Baptist on this subject because we have NEVER claimed that Jesus came to America to meet the naked natives. WE brought Jesus with us to America.


Furthermore, just don't speak on behalf of Landover or any other Baptists, period. Got that, Padre? We don't put words into the mouths of you Catholic clergy, probably because all of your mouths are already full.


(No need for details on that last part, I should think. )

[Romeo Rovagnati]

Re: Which religion has the best proof?

Mrs. Harsha Shah, I've decided to fix your list by putting the religions you've listed in the correct order:

1. Christianity: Other than the witnesses that you number, Christianity is also proved by the existance of the Holy Roman Catholic Apostolic Church (will you come there once, before the Monkey virus smites you?) To a lesser extent, other denominations, along with archaelogy such as the Shroud of Turin proves Christianity.
2. Mormonism: The LSD Church identify itself as "Christian", but since you put them as a separate religion, I'll do too. It still has evidence because of the ones of Christianity and because Landover Baptists claim (and I believe them) that Jesus came in America and met the red tribes. However, the founder was a Fairy Tale author, therefore losing most of his credibility.
3. Rastafarianism: Haile Selassie existed of course, as there is many evidence. It could also be true if we consider that Rastas believe in Biblical Prophets. But then we remember that most of this cult consist in hallucinations that comes from weed consumption. The myth of Haile Selassie being one of the incarnation of the Biblical God is also debunked by himself, since he was an Ethiopian Orthodox, not a Bob Marley followr.
4. Islam: Of course it has many evidence, as Muslims declare that the Biblical Prophets would approve rotating around a Black Cube. It is however more evident that mixing an heresy with Paganism creates bigger delusions (it is a well known historical fact that Muhammad was an Arian).
5. Voodoo: It has some evidence, because it uses Catholic Saints to worship the African "gods". Still, it requires you to believe in zombies.
6. Hinduism: Krishna may be a proof of Jesus, that's it. It also proves demon possession via the Yogurt poses. There are many Hindu schools and I don't want to dwelve more into.
7. Taoism: Magic exists and this religion is proof. But about its "Gods"? They are just magic containers according to Taoists. I dunno if I can trust a religion which claim that Animals can be controlled with you IQ. And, according to some, Taoism wasn't even supposed to be a religion, but just a philosophy.
8. Confucianism: Jesuit Matteo Ricci confirmed that this is not a religion, but just a philosophy. It was rejected by the Vatican for promoting the belief in Chinese Superstitions.
9. Wicca: Magic may be real, but most of the landwhale with dyed hair haven't been hable to cast some curses one others. The fouder was a creepy old man who wanted to do orgies with women.
10. Jedis: As I sai in another repy, there is a great chance that the Siths are the ones right. But if it were to be real, then it would be the Christianity of its own universe.
11. Scientology: The founder of the cult was a failed sci-fi author who decided that he would make alot of money with his own religion. None of the people involved were able to "awaken" their hidden powers.
12. Pastafarianism: Created with the sole purpose of making fun of religion and because "pirates are cool" that's it.
13. Prince Philip's Movement: This is rooted in the superstitious Cargo Cult that many savages believe. Also, have you heard the recent news?

[Dennis Lukes]

Re: Which religion has the best proof?

• Satanism: If we count Laveyans as the only "legitimate", then this it is just a joke that some edgy teens love to use.

In fact, those atheist emo Ayn Rand fans are the illegitimate Satanists. Actual theistic Satanism, those who accept the Bible as true but choose to reject God and worship the Devil, would actually count as an Abrahamic faith with more proof than Judaism or Islam.

[Romeo Rovagnati]

Re: Which religion has the best proof?

An Atheist wrote a mail to me and asked why these "religions" have zero proof, so I'll rewrite there why in alphabetical order:

• Apple's Cult: Not a spiritual cult, but a cult of corporate slavery of idiots who keeps buying a new Phone every three months.
• Berlusconism: Altough it may sound like Silvio Berlusconi is immortal because he survived everything, he still has not done a real miracle to valify his "Sainthood".
• Calvinism: Don't tell that to Westboros and anyone who is still stupid enough to believe in this not heresy, but joke that has been taken too seriously.
• Chuck Norris: The same as Keanu Reeves, immortal only in fiction, not in reality.
• Church of Euthanasia: Not theistic, just a bunch of God-haters who takes God's name in vain to force people to practice suicide and abortion.
• Church of Google: Google may be actually a proof that God exists, but the people using it are declining, and a true God would never lose followers because he would never be incompetent as them.
• Church of Stop Shopping: The purpose of this cult is not worshipping God, but stopping Consumerism. Implying that Consumerism isn't a punishment from God.
• Church of the SubGenius: It is actually a movement that makes fun of anyone who believes in something you would call a "conspiracy theory". Again, it doesn't worship anything.
• Cthulhu: Depending on you point, Cthulhu is either a Pagan God or the Christian God, portrayed in both cases as a brutal God. But how we are supposed to worship him with no Neconomicon?
• Cult of Arceus: I have researched this "god", and apparently is supposed to be the creator of the mythology of Pokèmon (Gotta Damn you All). However, he is definitely not a god if you can defeat him or even turn him into a slave. Imagine someone believing that God is "his slave" just because he uses his word to profit.
• Cult of Diego Maradona: This is what happens when Soccer ends up becoming a religion: you start thinking that soccer players are Saints. Diego Maradona had too many lovers, even for a Mormon that would be insane. If anything, this can be classified as "Folk Catholicism".
• Cult of "St. IGNUcius": Now I understand why few people use Linux and such, they are so insane to believe that a living person is a "Saint".
• Discordianism: The people in this "religion" are a bunch of clueless sinners who don't know the consuences of pretending to worship a demon. If anything, this is a proof of people being foolish.
• Eru Iluvatar: He is the Christian God under a different name. Asking to prove that he exists therefore is not necessary.
• Gabenism: The owner of an online video game store is "god" because he lowers the price, sure...
• Germano Mosconi: Not a Saint, but declared by Atheists as such everytime they need someone to represent them when they associate God with pigs and dogs. The man was a Catholic who got caught blaspheming and cursing and ended up on the Internet. He has repented before dying, but who knows if God forgave him for not keeping his mouth shut.
• Haruism: The cult is centered on a japanese schoolgirl who declares herself to be "God" on Earth. The problem is that she only exists in her show, but if she were real she would definitely be the Antichrist. A good reason to ban japanese media from the West.
• Invisible Pink Unicorn: I can't deny that he exists because i cannot see him, but you cannot prove that he exists because you can't see him. But either way, his existance changes nothing.
• Jedis: They are real within their world, not this. And who says that it's not the Siths who are actually right?
• Satanism: If we count Laveyans as the only "legitimate", then this it is just a joke that some edgy teens love to use.
• Madokaism: Yet another reason why anime should be banned. This cult consists in a bunch of weebs who are very willing to make pacts with fox demons in order to become magical girls.
• Pastafarianism: Just an excuse for Atheists to pretend to adhere to a religion because pirates are cool! However, just because spaghetti and meatballs are everywhere it doesn't mean that an entity that looks like them could necessarly have created them.
• Pepe the Frog: Same as Discordians, but acts in a different way. Anyway, if they declare themselves "Catholics", they are actually practicing Folk Catholicism.
• Pumpkinsm: Can only be worshipped during Halloween. What kind of god exists only during an holiday?
• Scientology: A joke that many people end up taking it seriously. Written by an F-series Sci-Fi writer.
• Trumpism: The Donald is no longer at the White House and Wall is still not finished. However, he is still alive and could fulfil some prophecies. In the meantime, Chinese also believes that Xi Jinping has the "Mandate of Heaven".

[Isabella White]

Re: Which religion has the best proof?

So where does that put Catholicism? Fifth?

Well, I don't think Cathyolicism even qualifies to be on that list, dear Brother Lukes. I mean, how can anybody possibly take it seriously, when it so blatantly ignores specific commandments that have been given by — self?!

Exodus 20:4 "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth."

[Romeo Rovagnati]

Re: Which religion has the best proof?

Thank you for replying; yes I know there are different categories of tradition including more than just human or Divine. I do not follow tradition, especially not traditions promoted to me from sources I can verify for myself as unreliable. What I wondered is how YOU distinguish between them? How do you know which ones to follow——cardinals electing popes, say——and which ones to reject? Such as traditions promoted by Baron Roman von Ungern-Sternberg? Or the Báb?

Well, i can distinguish because the Catholic Tradition© was extabilished by Jesus himself, along with the entire organization rightly after his own resurrection.


Baron Ungern-Sterberg was believed to be an incarnation of a God of War but, unlike Jesus who is the incarnation of God the Father himself, the Norwegian Baron never did any miracle, nor resurrect himself after his death by the hand of the Soviets.


As for Bahai, i don't even know if it can be called a "tradition", since they don't even have a book to replace the Holy Bible.


Both Bahai and Sternberg's followers believe that more than a religion to be true at the same time. This is of course a contraddiction, as they all promise different rewards.