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  • Romeo Rovagnati
    Jesuit Insurgency Operative
    Forum Member
    • Aug 2016
    • 681

    #1

    Let's see who is to blame for the Westboro Baptist Church's existance...

    Buonasera!

    Althought I don't live in America and I've never put a feet on the American soil (let alone Topeka's soil), by looking at your rival Church who preaches Hyper-Calvinism and protests everything they see with signs and musical parodies, something came to my mind: who is to blame for its existance?

    The first thing that came to mind to the average Atheist is: "Religion! If it weren't for Religion they would not exist!" Of course, we all know that's an excuse for attempting to prove that Reddit is somewhat better than going to Church. At least in a Church you give money to people who talk about something. But anyway, let's continue.


    Christ-Killers and anyone who hates Our Lord and Saviour will say instead: "Christianity! They represents all Christians in the world!" But they forget that the rest of Christians despise the Westboro Baptists (be it for the right reasons, or the wrong ones).


    We Catholics, knowing who is really to blame, will say: "Protestantism! If Luther didn't cause the Western Schism, no one would have to bear them!" Now this seems to be the correct answer. However, most Protestants (be it Lutheran or Anglican, Episcopal or Presbyterian) despises them. Let's go further, then!


    Most people who identify as a Protestant then will point out: "Baptists! They are Indipendent Baptists and acts the same way!" But other Baptists (including Landover Baptists of this forum) have condemned many times the actions of Westboro Baptists, and consider them as heretics.


    But then, people will remember: "Calvinism! They are slaves of the false teachings of John Calvin!" The average Calvinist will of course deny that Calvin was an Hyper-Calvinist, but of coure none of his moderaten "followers" has ever meet him. So that's settles it: It is all John Calvin's fault for interpreting the Bible and St. Augustine writings in his own way and deceiving people in believing that we have no Free Will and God decides everything we do.


    Some will say that it's also St. Augustine fault for writing what Calvin decided to interpret as "No Free Will", but I'm not allowed to criticize him.


    I'm very sorry that Fred Phelps had to waste his whole life by creating a cult that damaged him and his own family and made them look like clowns. How sad must have been for him meeting in the Afterlife the person who destroyed his life without even being able to warn his family members about the falsehood of Calvinism.


    Thankfully, they thaught us to not be around Calvinists, or they will infect us.
  • Johny Joe Hold
    Mayor of Freehold
     
    • Feb 2010
    • 12612

    #2
    Re: Let's see who is to blame for the Westboro Baptist Church's existance...

    My goodness, Mr. Catholic priest. You are saying our liberal friends at Westboro Baptist have peculiar beliefs.

    Westboro Baptists, and Landover Baptists, all eat fish on Friday. Rolling on the floor laughing my a-- off.
    Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.

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    • MitzaLizalor
      Completely CRAZY for the Lord
      True Christian™
      • Sep 2010
      • 14287

      #3
      Re: Let's see who is to blame for the Westboro Baptist Church's existance...

      He didn't mention John Knox for some reason? Presbyterianism got a brief mention and they are of course protestant, in the sense that they did protest the doctrines of Rome. Without the Church of Rome, how could there be Protestants?
      Two possibilities exist. EITHER they started calling themselves catholic some time during the classical period, cobbling together assorted idolatries in the face of new ideas (mentioned in The New Testament so we know they had broader currency that is sometimes claimed) ideas overturning the underlying substrate of their world view OR eventually after several centuries [6 -ed.] they decided they had enough influence to start a hyper-belligerent campaign across Europe, butchering whomever they stumbled upon. Eventually [July 1054 -ed.] his cronies excommunicated the then majority. That episode may have timed out, or not, depending on which of many splinter groups under the Romish umbrella you listen to.
      Baptists do not have this problem ——— BUT not everyone calling themselves baptist are truly Baptists.

      II John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

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      • WilliamJenningsBryan
        True Christian™
         
        • Jan 2007
        • 9384

        #4
        Re: Let's see who is to blame for the Westboro Baptist Church's existance...

        Pay no attention to the Vatican propaganda, True Christian™ Baptists date our religion all the way back to John the Baptist - who Baptised Jesus (by the way). It was way before the cathylicks started talking about that "rock of Peter" nonsense. It also has nothing to do with anything you might read on that Marxist Wikipedia.

        Sure, Martin Luther was correct in calling out the corruption of the cathylicks and starting "protestants" - but Martin Luther was one of many to note Satan's hand controlling the Vatican.

        It's a sad note with Fred Phelps and the Westboro Baptists. He had many of the right ideas, but Fred was a lifetime Democrat with many LIEberal views. Being a lawyer, he relished in litigation and made much of the money to support his church suing those who attempted to shut down his protests concerning homers.
        Hell's foundations quiver at the shout of praise;
        brothers, lift your voices, loud your anthems raise.
        ...and get off my lawn
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        • Dennis Lukes
          Innkeeper for Christ
          True Christian™
          • Dec 2018
          • 2388

          #5
          Re: Let's see who is to blame for the Westboro Baptist Church's existance...

          Originally posted by WilliamJenningsBryan View Post
          It's a sad note with Fred Phelps and the Westboro Baptists. He had many of the right ideas, but Fred was a lifetime Democrat with many LIEberal views.
          Amen. Fred Phelps was a civil rights lawyer who believed in racial equality, and he hated America, mocked dead soldiers, and constantly protested and picketed. Sounds like an obnoxious, vulgar SJW to me. Phelps was ahead of the curve.
          I was sinking deep in sin far from the peaceful shore,
          Very deeply stained within, sinking to rise no more;
          But the Master of the Sea heard my despairing cry,
          From the waters lifted me, now safe am I!

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          • MitzaLizalor
            Completely CRAZY for the Lord
            True Christian™
            • Sep 2010
            • 14287

            #6
            Re: Let's see who is to blame for the Westboro Baptist Church's existance...

            Originally posted by Romeo Rovagnati View Post
            Buonasera!
            I have no idea what that means. Do you have to make gang signs when you say it?

            ROMISH GANG SIGN (example)

            We Catholics, knowing who is really to blame ..blah ..blah
            Well of course; it's been pretty well established that popism is to blame.

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            • WWJDnow
              True Christian™
              True Christian™
              • Aug 2009
              • 6312

              #7
              Re: Let's see who is to blame for the Westboro Baptist Church's existance...

              Westboro did picket gay funerals, and that was God's work. So they weren't all bad.
              The Christian Right: The Only Right Way to Be a Christian!

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              • handmaiden
                Is a good, decent True Christian™ lady
                True Christian™
                • May 2010
                • 11387

                #8
                Re: Let's see who is to blame for the Westboro Baptist Church's existance...

                Originally posted by WWJDnow View Post
                Westboro did picket gay funerals, and that was God's work. So they weren't all bad.
                That's an interesting point. Why do they bother with funerals for gay people, anyway?

                They're already in Hell, why put together a fancy party to send them off? . . Oh, I just thought of an answer. It's probably just an opportunity for homers to meet and mingle, isn't it?
                His left hand should be under my head, and his right hand should embrace me.

                Guns For God and the Economy

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                • Joanna Lytton-Vasey
                  True Christian™ Lady Extraordinaire, an Honorary Male Biblicist
                   
                  • Jul 2014
                  • 8400

                  #9
                  Re: Let's see who is to blame for the Westboro Baptist Church's existance...

                  Originally posted by handmaiden View Post
                  They're already in Hell, why put together a fancy party to send them off? . . Oh, I just thought of an answer. It's probably just an opportunity for homers to meet and mingle, isn't it?
                  And an excuse to dress up in inappropriate clothing.
                  Vaccinated by the love of Jesus!!!

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                  • Dennis Lukes
                    Innkeeper for Christ
                    True Christian™
                    • Dec 2018
                    • 2388

                    #10
                    Re: Let's see who is to blame for the Westboro Baptist Church's existance...

                    Originally posted by WWJDnow View Post
                    Westboro did picket gay funerals, and that was God's work. So they weren't all bad.
                    Also picketed soldiers' funerals. Are we sure they weren't being bankrolled by Soros?
                    I was sinking deep in sin far from the peaceful shore,
                    Very deeply stained within, sinking to rise no more;
                    But the Master of the Sea heard my despairing cry,
                    From the waters lifted me, now safe am I!

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                    • ERvengeanceDDR5
                      Forum Member
                      Forum Member
                      • Dec 2021
                      • 28

                      #11
                      Re: Let's see who is to blame for the Westboro Baptist Church's existance...

                      I like westboro memetic artstyle. What a genius.

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                      • Roland
                        Obese Swedish Meatball
                        Delusional Forum Member
                        • May 2014
                        • 2193

                        #12
                        Re: Let's see who is to blame for the Westboro Baptist Church's existance...

                        Originally posted by ERvengeanceDDR5 View Post
                        I like westboro memetic artstyle. What a genius.
                        Do you mean the rainbow colors they use?
                        Jeremiah 6:21 Therefore thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will lay stumblingblocks before this people, and the fathers and the sons together shall fall upon them; the neighbour and his friend shall perish.

                        Best wishes for the people in Ukraine.

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                        • MitzaLizalor
                          Completely CRAZY for the Lord
                          True Christian™
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 14287

                          #13
                          Re: Let's see who is to blame for the Westboro Baptist Church's existance...

                          Where do they stand on evolution?

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                          • Romeo Rovagnati
                            Jesuit Insurgency Operative
                            Forum Member
                            • Aug 2016
                            • 681

                            #14
                            Re: Let's see who is to blame for the Westboro Baptist Church's existance...

                            Originally posted by MitzaLizalor View Post
                            Where do they stand on evolution?
                            Last time that I've checked, Darwin is in the list of people that God hates according to the Westboros. Unfortunately, despite being a Biblical fact, WBC's Biblical mentality stops when it comes to believe that we have no Free Will. I mean, seriously? They have signs who says "Repent or Perish! (Luke 13:45)" and yet they believe that it's up to God to decide if a person has to repent? God is too busy with other stuff, such as being angry with the wicked every day (Psalm 7:11).

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                            • MitzaLizalor
                              Completely CRAZY for the Lord
                              True Christian™
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 14287

                              #15
                              Re: Let's see who is to blame for the Westboro Baptist Church's existance...

                              It always makes me smile, how evolutionists go on about adapting to life in trees however many millions of years ago but still can't draw a rainbow. Does the pope have rainbows?

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