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  • HatePeace
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    • May 2009
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    #1

    The Holy Blessed Virgin Mother

    As you state that us Catholics worship Mary, I have one question: Why would we worship some random woman from Israel if she had no significance? The significance of The Virgin Mother is the fact that she gave birth to the second part of the Holy Trinity, Our Lord Jesus Christ. And worship means to put your life into something, usually a spiritual diety. We venerate the Blessed Virgin. We worship Jesus Christ.
  • Pastor Isaac Peters
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    • Sep 2006
    • 10639

    #2
    Re: The Holy Blessed Virgin Mother

    Originally posted by LovePeace View Post
    As you state that us Catholics worship Mary, I have one question: Why would we worship some random woman from Israel if she had no significance?
    Why do you do any of the un-Scriptural things that you do?

    The significance of The Virgin Mother is the fact that she gave birth to the second part of the Holy Trinity, Our Lord Jesus Christ.
    Matt. 12:50: For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

    Luke 11:27-28: And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed [is] the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. But he said, Yea rather, blessed [are] they that hear the word of God, and keep it.


    And worship means to put your life into something, usually a spiritual diety. We venerate the Blessed Virgin. We worship Jesus Christ.
    You do love your inaccurate definitions, don't you? From here:

    worship:

    –verb (used with object)
    6. to render religious reverence and homage to.
    7. to feel an adoring reverence or regard for (any person or thing).
    Now, from here:

    venerate:

    –verb (used with object), -at⋅ed, -at⋅ing.
    to regard or treat with reverence; revere.
    Not only do I not see "put your life into something," but also, from those definitions, it can be rather tricky to venerate (i.e., revere) someone in a religious sense without rendering religious reverence to that someone.
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    • HatePeace
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      • May 2009
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      #3
      Re: The Holy Blessed Virgin Mother

      Plain and simple, we don't worship The Blessed Virgin. Try going to Mass and realize that we worship the Good Lord, Jesus Christ.

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      • Pastor Isaac Peters
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        • Sep 2006
        • 10639

        #4
        Re: The Holy Blessed Virgin Mother

        Originally posted by LovePeace View Post
        Plain and simple, we don't worship The Blessed Virgin. Try going to Mass and realize that we worship the Good Lord, Jesus Christ.
        I've been to a Mass. You worship the death cookie and pray for (and to) dead people. Your "churches" are full of plaster statues before which people pray, i.e., idols.
        This church is dedicated to preaching True Christianity™ and the King James Bible exactly as they are, with no alterations to make them more politically correct for modern liberals. If you think that we've misquoted or twisted Scripture or quoted any verse out of context, please explain in detail how we've done so. Otherwise, if what you read on this site offends you, then you're offended by Almighty God and His Word, not by us.

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        • Mistress Cookie
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          • Jul 2008
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          #5
          Re: The Holy Blessed Virgin Mother

          Originally posted by LovePeace View Post
          you state that us Catholics worship Mary, I have one question: Why would we worship some random woman from Israel if she had no significance?
          As you've learned, most Catholics are homosexual males.

          Many "gay" men have trouble relating to their fathers, and instead create a dependent, over-idealized relationship with the mother.

          This is why Mary has become so elevated in the Catholic Church above God, the Father.

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          • JennyD
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            • Dec 2007
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            #6
            Re: The Holy Blessed Virgin Mother

            Originally posted by LovePeace View Post
            Plain and simple, we don't worship The Blessed Virgin. Try going to Mass and realize that we worship the Good Lord, Jesus Christ.
            So then you say prayers to the very dead and un-hearing Mary for what reason?
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            • HatePeace
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              • May 2009
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              #7
              Re: The Holy Blessed Virgin Mother

              Why do you call it the "death cookie"? It gives life, not death. And it's a wafer, not a cookie. Get educated.

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              • Meek and Humble
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                • Dec 2008
                • 6197

                #8
                Re: The Holy Blessed Virgin Mother

                You dirty stinking Catholics teach Mary was without sin her whole life. Yet,

                Romans 3:10As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

                Romans 3:23For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God

                Ecclesiastes 7:20For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.

                Romans 6:23For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.


                1 John 1:8If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.


                In your dirty stinking, "Hail Marys" which you recite 50 times in a single rosary, you call Mary "Holy Mother of God". Yet,

                Revelation 15: 4Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.


                You claim Mary was born without the original sin that Jesus died to rid the world of, and ergo she did not need Jesus as her Savior. Yet,


                Luke 1:46And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord,

                47And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.

                You dirty stinking Catholics claim to pray to Mary as a mediator between yourselves and God. Yet,

                1 Timothy 2: 5For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.


                You seem to think Jesus needs help doing His job, that He is imperfect or limited in his capacities. Yet,

                Hebrews 7:25Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

                Ephesians 3:12In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him.


                Acts 4:12Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.


                John 6:40And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.


                Colossians 1:16For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:


                You dirty stinking Catholics claim that Mary and the other saints enjoy getting attention, and that Mary has revealed in visions such as one at Fatima that she wants people to pray for her. Yet the saints in the Bible don't seem to hold this sort of attitude,



                Acts 10:25And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him.
                26But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man.


                Acts 14:13Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people.
                14Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out


                Even the angels insist not to be venerated, and to give all attention to God! If angels shouldn't be venerated, how less should people, even very good people?


                Revelation 19:10And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.


                Revelation 22:9Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.


                You dirty stinking Catholics keep statues and paintings of Mary and the other saints, kneel and pray before them. Yet,


                Exodus 20: 4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
                5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me


                Romans 1:25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.


                1 John 5:21Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.


                2 Corinthians 6:17Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
                18And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.


                You say you just venerate and honor Mary, and that this is not the same as worship. Yet,


                Revelation 4:11Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.


                Nehemiah 9:6Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.


                You claim Mary was a virgin her whole life, but the Gospels imply otherwise,


                Matthew 1:25And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.


                Matthew 13:55Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? 56And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?


                You call Mary, "blessed", apparently just because she was Jesus' earthly mother, as if this makes her more special then all of the other saints. Yet,


                Luke 11:27And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked.
                28But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.


                Revelation 14:13And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.


                Matthew 12:48But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
                49And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! 50For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.


                You call Mary the Queen of Heaven, and worship bread and wine with your candles, and think God is just fine with this. Yet,


                Jeremiah 7:18The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.


                You say it doesn't matter that the Bible doesn't confirm your beliefs, because you have the traditions of the Popes. Yet,


                Mark 7:9And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

                Mark 7:13Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

                You say Mary is the Mother of God, yet

                Isaiah 9:6For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

                You say Mary is the greatest person to ever live. Yet,

                Matthew 11:11Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

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                • Pastor Isaac Peters
                  Senior Pastor
                  Ex-liberal; converted to True Christianity™
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                  True Christian™
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 10639

                  #9
                  Re: The Holy Blessed Virgin Mother

                  Originally posted by HatePeace View Post
                  Why do you call it the "death cookie"? It gives life, not death. And it's a wafer, not a cookie. Get educated.
                  Your "continuing sacrifice of the Mass" directly contradicts Hebrews 10:10:

                  Hbr. 10:10: By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once [for all].

                  Get educated.
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